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Trevek   
2 Mar 2009
UK, Ireland / More Polish workers leaving the Isles [28]

I have a friend or two in Norway at the moment, they didn't even bother going to UK/Ireland.

What I'm interested in is whethr any mass homecoming will just create a similar glut of over-qualified people with no jobs. A colleague who is a banker suggested that actually the ones who stayed in Poland might be in a better position than SOME of those who left.
Trevek   
2 Mar 2009
News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]

If u need to progress, you need a multicultural society,made up of whites, yellows, browns, blacks.

I guess this guy has never been to Warsaw, then.

Even in Olsztyn we have that mix.

however we can't say to black guy who's his great grand father born in UK or brought as slave he's not welcome as it was said by white guy who his father is Irish.

he's as british as the queen if not more(german ancestor) or prince charles(greek father).

Maybe this will explain a few things:
Trevek   
2 Mar 2009
Work / New English 'teacher' in Poland (I have no qualifications). [119]

What is Business English, aside from some specialized vocabulary? It's all about knowing how to communicate, and yes, I also teach business english. My background is 25 years in sales and sales management, so I have a little experience in the field.

I sometimes feel awkward doing a class with business directors, managers etc using a book such as "Market Leader" (classic book) and explaining the ideas of business philosophy to someone who earns more in an hour than I do in a day.

Poland's a Catholic country so everyone knew about fasting, but they called it "post".

Do you ever get that amazed reaction of realisation when you tell them that to stop fasting is to "break fast"?
Trevek   
3 Mar 2009
History / Why communism failed in Poland? [275]

very good! you have pointed correctly that also the western puppet master is also responsible and guilty of killing individualism. and mass advertising does not kill individualism or does it propogate that the masses consume without thinking? and dare you not criticise our hotel in Pyongyang, would you like to compare Warsaw metro with Pyongyang metro? How is your Warsaw metro? Very good? I think not!!! One line only, very incomplete - look at metro built by socialist engineers in Pyongyang!

I think you have the wrong person. For a start, the case I am talking about was in the days before socialism/communism. They didn't kill individualism, they prosecuted these guys for swearing an oath to the union rather than the king.

I don't live in Warsaw (nor am I Polish), what about the London/Paris/NY/TYneside metros, which actually cover some distance more than the Warsaw one.
Trevek   
4 Mar 2009
Work / New English 'teacher' in Poland (I have no qualifications). [119]

I learned more Polish in Glasgow than in Poland. I actually don't get that much of a chance to use it (everyone insists on practising their bloody English!) but am pleasantly surprised when I realise how much I can use it.

Mind you, in Mazury it is a waste of time trying. As soon as they hear the foreign accent they either talk German or English!

Very cool. I'll use that tomorrow. Never thought about it before, but now it seems so obvious. Thanks.

You're welcome.
Trevek   
5 Mar 2009
History / Why communism failed in Poland? [275]

Just exactly where does Nazi style "National SOCIALISM" differ with Stalinist socialism? I've never quite worked it out.
Trevek   
5 Mar 2009
Work / New English 'teacher' in Poland (I have no qualifications). [119]

And if the English teacher is an English native, is this not suitable?

Depends of they actually understand about things like grammar and can actually speak Standard English. I'm not being snobby here. My first ELT job was in Macedonia. I was a graduate but knew nothing about grammar etc. The problem was that students would ask things like "Can you tell me about modal auxiliaries?" and I didn't have a clue. The other thing was that my own speech was so full of non-standard phrases and vocab that even the good students had trouble understanding me... and I wasn't even aware that I was so non-standard.

I don't agree that a teacher has to be grat in a forign language but it doesn't hurt to know something, if only to understand why the student might find it difficult (like no continuous in Polish, no articles etc).

quote=MrBubbles]
Use of jargon is another way the teacher feels more secure.[/quote]

The students too, occasionally. How many students have you lost because you didn't teach with a grammar chart and use all the terminology!

On the subject of using the L2, I've grown tired of being in pubs where I ask the barstaff for a beer and they insist on speaking English, even when I continue in Polish. In Mikolajki they jsut insisted on speaking German, even when they could hear we weren't German and I was speaking Polish (kind of pre-conditioned to talk German to foreigners, I suppose).[
Trevek   
6 Mar 2009
Work / New English 'teacher' in Poland (I have no qualifications). [119]

you can't bloody take money off people when you have absolutely no skill whatsoever to offer them. do you think that just speaking english qualifies you to teach it?!!

Who said the OP has no skill. They said they don't have experience or qualifications. He might have plenty to offer which another, qualified teacher doesn't.

If you get a decent student

It's not the decent ones I worry about. If I lose one of them then I need to get another job. It's the ones who have an idea of teaching from 50 years ago (even if they ar not 50) and cling to an idea that if they can recite a grammar chart (I don't have/use them, it was a bit of a joke) they'll somehow have the secrets of English unlocked...meanwhile they won't have to speak in class and can write everything during conversation pairwork (does this sound like I have one or two of these people?). Then they stop coming to class and complain that they couldn't understand the teacher and he never gave homework(read: they never did it) or never taught grammar, just because the elementary class didn't cover future perfect passive continuous in reported speech.

Ahhhhhh!

Sorry, was that a little off-topic?

(being at the mercy of people's willingness to treat you like a child)

Oh boy, do I agree with you there! People showing me how to cut wood (I didn't speak much Polish so I mustn't know how to do it... despite the fact I lived on the endge of a forest for a year!) or the lovely lady in the post office who explained to me about how I had to take the stamp... and wet it... and stick it on the envelope! It was just because she heard my accent, not because I don't speak Polish. Don't get me started on the story of the barman who insisted on explaining in English (after I asked him in Polish) about which beers were Polish in the bar.
Trevek   
6 Mar 2009
Work / New English 'teacher' in Poland (I have no qualifications). [119]

If exams are the engine that drives the market, coursebooks are the fluffy dice and leopard skin seats that dress it up.

You're not wrong. I was running an Upper-Int course and I gave a mountain of extra material, practice of job interviews etc, but no unit tests (at least for a while). At last 2 poeple left because they said (to my boss), "I don't feel I'm making progress (no tests to prove it to them) and we've only done 3 units (semester hadn't finished and we'd started late).

Now I glue religiously to a book and they all love it!

I'm actually of the opinion these books aren't to teach students to speak with native speakers, they're to teach them to speak to other L2 speakers. Funnily enough, when 2 studes from different countries get together and parle Anglais it is not unknown for a native speaker to find it hard to understand. The L2's understand each other because they make similar mistakes. The mistake then ceases to be a mistake in their form of English.

One example was the French and Polish businessmen in a meeting with an English businessman. The Frenchman and Pole started talking about supply and delivery of cardboard boxes. They started joking about the "Karton Network" (pun on "Cartoon Network") but the English guy was mystified because he didn't get the word-play.

By the way, has anyone else noticed that the new COUNTDOWN to FCE is a pile of poo. It is so full of mistakes that my students wanted to know why they had to spend good money on a crap product (with mistakes they wouldn't make!).
Trevek   
6 Mar 2009
Work / New English 'teacher' in Poland (I have no qualifications). [119]

Plus I don't feel like a native English speaker needs to know enough grammar as an ESL student because some things can be easily explained just by being a native speaker.

We don't. We just know (generally, but lots don't) how it is used instinctively (I mean, we know what sounds strange). European students tend to get trained solidly in their grammar, particularly Poles.

I had heard that in UK primary schools were starting to reintroduce grammar, bit by bit.
Trevek   
8 Mar 2009
Work / New English 'teacher' in Poland (I have no qualifications). [119]

My kid told me that WILL was the future tense in English, for example........is that useful?[/quote]

Can thy spell? I remeber something called "Letterland", where all the letters had names. I asked my niece to spell out a word, something like "seven". All she could do was say "Eddie elephant" but not relate it to the sound of the letter.

Funny thing I find is that British kids make mistakes no Polish kid would make, such as "I must of lost it on the train"

no conclusive link has been shown between a declarative knowledge of grammar and the standard of L1 production. Encouraging students to use the language creatively has far more benefits and fosters language diversity.

We know that, and YOU know that but the students all know better.

[quote=Trevek]
By the way, has anyone else noticed that the new COUNTDOWN to FCE is a pile of poo.

No, this takes a new prize. It is so full of typoes and mistakes that it is unbeleivable. I wrote to the publishers and said that if they couldn't afford a decent proof-reader they could spend their money on me and I'd do a better job.
Trevek   
8 Mar 2009
Work / New English 'teacher' in Poland (I have no qualifications). [119]

no conclusive link has been shown between a declarative knowledge of grammar and the standard of L1 production. Encouraging students to use the language creatively has far more benefits and fosters language diversity.

You know that... and we know that... but the paying students know better.

non natives often learn it through written texts / gramatically.

Exactly.
Trevek   
9 Mar 2009
UK, Ireland / restaurant in elgin [7]

What are you doing in Elgin anyway?

Maybe he's lost his marbles!
Trevek   
16 Mar 2009
UK, Ireland / Anti-Polish sentiment of England [253]

They wont be able to get jobs if polish graduates come here and take jobs.

Well, the UK grads are already in the country and they speak English... what's to stop them going to get the jobs first?

The problem is that a lot of UK degrees are not really training for a job, they're a preliminary to get your foot in the door (of a call-centre job).
Trevek   
20 Mar 2009
Life / temporary license plates - buying car in PL [6]

How are you buying it?

I tried to buy my car on 5 year credit but they wouldn't let me because I didn't have 5 years left on my ID. Might just have been a provincial bumpkin mindset of the salesperson but in these days of credit-crunch it could be a problem.
Trevek   
20 Mar 2009
Work / Interview at a Callan School [204]

Let me reiterate, when I talk about accent I mean my voice as being Scottish. Not the stress on the syllable which is clearly different.

Interestingly, I have heard that the best example of spoken standard English actually comes from the East Coast of Scotland.

The point is that a teacher shouldbe aware of the peculiarities of their own accent and be able to point it out to a student. As a midlander I have to warn them that I may have a tendency to flatten my vowels, whereas the American teacher may pronounce them differently. It can be fun when my studes have US accents or, curiously, French accents and I have to corrct the pronuciation. It is by using phonetics that I can stress pronuciation.

Obviously, if the accent is strong a teacher may need to moderate it. Studes will use any excuse not to understand. I had one Intermediate group who moaned that they couldn't understand me and I used too complicated words. Funny thing was I'd taught pre-int and int the previous year with great success, so the use of words argument was utter BS. The fact was they missed their previous teacher. To suggest they didn't understand my accent (not something I hear alot) was also bs as me and their previous teacher are from the same area.
Trevek   
23 Mar 2009
UK, Ireland / Negative attitude towards Polish immigration in UK becoming stronger [90]

these poles have no regard for their children they take them from their school and from their friends to a foreign country

I agree... imagine taking them from the fairly decent education system in Poland and dropping them in the hoody-hell education sytem dat is in da UK, innit!?
Trevek   
23 Mar 2009
Food / Where to buy Cheddar in Warsaw? [57]

Star Wars fans may like to take note that the most famous of these caves is called Wookey Hole.

Wookey Hole is not one of the Cheddar Caves (although it is used for aging cheddar cheese), it is in the village of... errm, Wookey Hole. It's where they shot "Revenge of the Cybermen" for Dr Who. It's also a centre for making paper from rags and the warehouse for Madame Tussaud's wax museum.

The town of Bridgenorth in Shropshire has sandstone caves and occasionally cheese is matured there (imported from elsewhere).
Trevek   
24 Mar 2009
Real Estate / Foreigners: Please don't buy Polish Land! [823]

(sigh) I wouldn’t go that far. But seriously, how would you feel if some foreigners with no ties to Poland and Her people and no regard for Polish culture came in with sacks of money and, say, bought up entire Polish villages, completely displacing the residents along with their cultural history?

Like Scottish islands, whole stretches of Ireland and now, potentially, a whole village in England.
Trevek   
24 Mar 2009
Real Estate / Foreigners: Please don't buy Polish Land! [823]

What bugs me is that I moved to Poland, set up a one-man firm in Poland (I pay taxes in Poland) and borrowed a few thousand from my parents in UK. Polish government had no qualms about accepting the money into the country but I still had to buy the house and land in my wife's name (she's Polish).
Trevek   
27 Mar 2009
Food / Where to buy Cheddar in Warsaw? [57]

I never said it was. I said "caves in the Cheddar area".

Apologies, you are quite right.

There used to be a great cheese shop in Glasgow right next to Clatty Pats in the West End which was amazing, but sadly it closed down while I was in Poland.

Oh no, that was a great shop.

A friend of mine outside Olsztyn makes Swiss style hard cheese. We brought a load back to Glasgow once... 27 hours on the coach to London and then 9 hours to Glasgow (and it was pretty ripe to begin with). One of the lads kept his with him, rather than in the luggage hold!

By Glasgow the driver comes up, "Has somebody been sick? There's a terrible smell!"
Trevek   
27 Mar 2009
Real Estate / Foreigners: Please don't buy Polish Land! [823]

Living in Warmia-Mazury, I think one of the biggest fears about foreigners buying land s that the Germans will come back and buy (reclaim!) the land they had before the war or before the previous owners left for Germany. There have been a few cases where families have been evicted when someone who emigrated returned and proved they still had legal ownership of property.

I think the law of reclaim which allowed Jews and others exiled by Nazis or Commies to claim back property scared a lot of people.

the bone-idle English worker refused to get his arse out of his bed for less than £6 p/hr

Terrible when you think McD's pay 6.37ph
Trevek   
29 Mar 2009
UK, Ireland / Why Scotland doesnt Need any Immigrants By a Scotsman [56]

Scotland had Shipbuilding industry,Large fishing fleet, Car making industry, Coal mining industry,Steel mills, Clothing factories, Electronics...English governments removed all our industries and the coal fields destruction was the final straw,

Barrygaji, with respect, like many Scots, you make it sound (perhaps unintentionally) like this was some conspiracy by the nasty, horrible English against Scotland. It's worth considering that England and Wales also had their heavy industries stripped and destroyed. Let's face it, perhaps the only reason Swan-Hunter shipyards on the Tyne were allowed to continue was so the governments could play them off against the yards in Glasgow and Belfast. Mines? Some English kids have read about them in history books or heard about them from their grandparents. Fishing fleets... I didn't recognise the North Shields fish quay from my childhood days when I was last there.

I'm curious about your claim that the Travellers were made homeless after the 1715/45. As I understood it there were Scottish anti-traveller laws (Romany, anyway) in place hundreds of years before that. One of the reasons there were communities around Rosslyn was because the local laird refused to enforce such laws (hanging).

I'm not disputing your own history, I'm just wondering if this was widespread displacement or were your family from a particular area?

Actually most things I've read that crunch the numbers say that Scotland is a net recipient of money from England and that Scotland's economic problems are mostly because Scottish voters like policies that limit economic growth and vote for them (and are then astonished when economic growth is not great).

Probably right but many would say that the money given to Scotland actually comes from Scotland to London first (I don't know how strong this argument is cos I don't know the figures).
Trevek   
29 Mar 2009
UK, Ireland / Why Scotland doesnt Need any Immigrants By a Scotsman [56]

Barry, almost everything you say also happened in parts of England and Wales too.

Example years ago Rosyth Dockyard was going strong and employed thousands, then Government decided to use Devonport in south England and closed down Rosyth and then it was taken over by a private company but they didnt employ as many workers

Imagine if the government had used Rosyth, the people in Devonport would have said the same thing. Like I said, they play people off against each other.

Where I grew up in Shropshire (near the Staffordshire border) there was once a number of mines in the area and a lot of car and motorcycle industry in the Midlands area. Part of my family are from Tyneside, likewise, once a strong mining area. The heavy industries are all but gone in most of these areas (no mines in Shropshire). Much of the new factories are/were foreign, granted cheap rent and tax breaks by The Divine Margaret(sic) ...

An open door to Europe for many of the Asian companies...
Trevek   
29 Mar 2009
UK, Ireland / If yer Coming tae Scotland, Remember Please [14]

Most Scots dont put water in whisky or sugar in porridge

Quite a few mix it with Irn Bru (or buy it ready mixed). Salt on the porridge.

A few more things:

Most Scots don't wear a kilt everyday (if ever).

"Fish and Chips" is known as a "Fish Supper" no matter what time of the day you eat it.

In the west it is salt and vinegar (as it shouldbe!) while in the east it is that disgusting sauce!

Lots of Scots don't actually know the words to the second verse of "Flower of Scotland".

William Wallace did not paint his face blue to look like mel Gibson.
Trevek   
29 Mar 2009
UK, Ireland / If yer Coming tae Scotland, Remember Please [14]

I lived in the east of Scotland and we use salt and vinegar.

Ah, an enclave of civilisation! I was in a chippy with an Edinburgh girl on the south side of Glasgow once. She asked for 'salt'n'sauce'. The silence was deafening...
Trevek   
29 Mar 2009
UK, Ireland / Polish Pubs in Scotland. [22]

The Sikorski Polish Club

I remember going to some theme bar in Glasgow called "Piwo Piwo" where it was something stupid like 2.50 for a small bottle of EB (it was a while ago).

I just thought, "bugger this" and nipped to the Sikorski Club, where it was only 2.00 a full sized bottle (and I wasn't surrounded by such pretentiousness).