History / What does it mean to be Polish? [46]


I agree to some extent, I can only say, here When people immigrated, yes they
became American or stayed citizens of Poland (never getting naturalized).
they had children, back way before I was even thought of, there were sections
in the town where I lived, hungarian, Italian, Polish, Yes even Irish, all seperate
communities, no mixing that was bad thing to do. The Culture of everyone of these
immigrants was highly practiced. Still is today , I wouldnt say Govt should be
included in a culture, because I think/believe polish is about traditions, what
the people believed in, how they came together as a country.
Just because they immigrated dont stop them from being polish. or their children.

Now I can agree with This. Someone has a grandparent whos all polish, and
another who is all irish, another who is half indian, half german, and then another
who is english and french.

What culture would they be? NONE< there is no specific bloodline there.

for people who have Polish heritage, came to America and their children Married
Polish, 100% everyone is from Poland. then that is Polish. as for the culture
it should be up to the parents to carry traditions on. in my case, unfortunately
no one did. so by blood, yes, polish all the way, by customs (still learning) by
living there, well , the govt says I can still obtain a polish citizenship for those who
lost it between 1920-1989 when they immigrated, so that would be my grandparents
and I know my grandmother didnt get naturalized, both grandfathers did, and the
other grandma was naturalized once she married my grandfather (was the law)
till they changed it and made it so everyone had to get naturalized later on.

History / What does it mean to be Polish? [46]


Amen!

History / What does it mean to be Polish? [46]

Yeah, we all said that. 1914 , two years after it sank. mine all came early, cept grandma.

1901, 1903, 1907. then 1914. <~close.

History / What does it mean to be Polish? [46]

Yes, Thanks :) one positive leads to two :) then three :)


Thanks again DG, Means alot :)


Well, I wish I could say that every part of the culture existed in my home , but
unfortunate that no one kept it going. our parents were no so strict, there was no
church, even though both had to go to catholic schools, learn Polish as well and
every holiday was celebrated with the old customs. MY sister remembers, she was
born when they were all alive, I was two when my moms mother died, so I only
had a grandma for two years of my life.

my Interest grew, my questions grew, so this is where I am at, dont have the
older family members to ask, all of emm are gone.

Yes, by blood, I am all Polish. by birth, American.

Thanks both of you :) Very Appreciated :) now I go look at those sites.

BTW MY moms mother (grandma) didnt get naturalized here, she still held her
green card, which I have, she came in 1914, but in the early 1940s had to
report to immigration when the war had started (all immigrants had to) and
I also recieved these papers from them, she had to have two people write
who she was, when she came , why she was here etc.
so when she died, she was still a citizen of Poland.

History / What does it mean to be Polish? [46]


she is right to extent, but, mostly I say I am American Polish, our family came early
on, but that dont mean we are only American. sometimes people like to shoot
people down to much, what is the big deal if someones ancestors, not that far off
either came from poland, so they cant share the heritage? Polish is a culture, no
matter where you live. Anyone think that people who move to the UK and have
children, will they say these children are strickly british? no, because they dont
practice what the british do.

I think I would be proud to have so many respect their polish heritage rather
then question why anyone would say that in the first place.


Frank I been doing this all my life.

Yes I suppose handed down thru the generations of Polish family members who
came strait from poland that this is part of this culture. my Grandmother would
feed everyone who stepped foot in her house. They lived like they were still in
poland in the area they moved to. only difference was the name of the place.
if they could have named the town differently they would have, and there are alot
of places in the USA which have polish town names. Polish street names .

I just dont know how anyone can deny someone that and not be proud.

History / What does it mean to be Polish? [46]

Yeah, I emailed Ania, asked her to ask the others.

be nice to have more familiar voices on here. the forum was crappy, but, not
all the people.

History / What does it mean to be Polish? [46]

yep. my oldest isnt interested in anything right now, only that her heritage leads
to polish, but youngest, wants to learn it, she is the curious child, so, quite possibly
if these polish classes are at night (at reasonable hour) I might take her along with me
to learn. :)

Life / is it easy to live in Poland? [58]


Casper is it really that bad there? not hearing much of this on here, what the heck
is going on that you would say that?

History / Poland During Russian Rule [7]


Krysia, I understand completely , no need to explain.
I just had mine get in the tub, and cooled her down, shes not throwin up
just a high fever, in the next few hours , if it goes back up that high, were
heading out, I know this is a battle I wont win, she needs antibiotics.

I hope your 3 year old feels better, something must be going around. I asked her
if there was any kids sick at school ,she said no, so it could have been from anywhere.

another sleepless night.


well, shes still with the fever, and tomorrow I think we will go to her drs.
I think its the flu. hopefully not, but her temp was very high last night, put her
in the tub twice to get the fever down.

so far she is perky. and eating. p

News / Mine disaster in Poland [23]

Theres still hope, Keep praying the rest make it out .

many prayers to those who did not make it. God Bless.

History / Poland During Russian Rule [7]

Thank you :)

I am worried a bit cause the Metabolic Disorder I was posting about in other thread
is what she has. weve had some rough hospital stays.

I just hope she can beat this fever or we are going in.


Krysia, if you dont hear from me tomorrow, or next day or two, I will send
them, my youngest is pretty sick tonight, not sure if I will be home in next few
hours, hopeful we dont have to go any further then the local hospital.

Thanks for offering, I will get in touch with you soon as we get better .

P

History / Poland During Russian Rule [7]

Krysia, that is sad, we forget how hard they had it, I try to remind my two that times
now are so much better then when my parents were growing up and their parents
twice as hard. yet they made it.

If you would :) translate those, they are in the old Russian, I was able to learn
how to read the month and date, "somewhat an accomplishment " lol

it was difficult because the sentences/words all run together to me.

I will send them tomorrow, my Daughter has a fever tonight, so I am keeping eye
on her for now.

But thank you so much, I will get these out to you :) big hugs :)

History / What does it mean to be Polish? [46]


Excellent info, Thanks, by the way, I consider myself Polish, but American first as this
was where I was born. all Grandparents and parents minus 25% if that is all polish.
Cities they lived were Nowogrod K Lomza, and Osiek K Oswiecim, and Polanka Wielka,
Again near Oswiecim, and last was Kolno.

I dont think there are conditions, yes if you live there you are Polish citizen, but
like when Poles come to America, they still say I am Polish, even if they came 5 years
ago, or 100 years ago. the nationality dont change, only the citizenship. most
still Practice their Culture here.

oops, the other 25% is the Question in another post about German (possible) heritage
but again, I dont know for sure. they lived in poland, all of them.

and if they hadnt came here, we would still be there, I would have learned more,
and know how to speak it, all grandparents died early on, and I never learned it, the
only time my parents talked polish was at christmas, so we didnt hear what we were
getting!

By the way babylon, printing that, I am wanting to learn so much, this is like the
first post which caught my attention that is really helpful for me to understand more
about Poland, its people, where it began, those Questions ran thru my mind, I had
a time on the intranet finding the right Words to get to the sites. very informative.

Thanks Really :) alot.

Real Estate / Poland Property...should I be scared [127]


No its Casper, thats cool, hes got alot going for him, and on his way to a good place!

Im glad to see him, maybe Another Ania and MikeC might come over. few others.

Spiritus hasnt been on as of late, wonder whats up .

Life / Are Polish People Racist? [1037]

I know, I have one from my Aunt Marys wedding here too the date is 1911!

the dresses were just amazing, one of her friends had made all of these dresses
by hand for her wedding! and the guys were all spiffied up, really a classic.

Life / Are Polish People Racist? [1037]


I am very proud of mine, today I recieved a picture of my Great Great Aunt who
celebrated her 50th wedding anniversary in 1938, and my Kuzynko Kazmier sent it
to me (they have bigger picture) and its amazing!

Life / Worrying observation about Polish attitudes to lying and cheating [62]

Depends on the Situation, I stand by my post, she was a drunk, I learned nothing
in her class, our parents pay top dollar taxes (which pays their salary) and send
us to school to learn. so while shes in the bathroom nippin the bottle, kids in the class
are going crazy , total chaos, yeah, again, I say, I stand by my post.

I probably could have turned her in, and then risk getting hurt by other kids, no thanks
i preferred catching up with the book and working on learning. that was all on my own
as this teacher was good for nothing. if I am a Cheater, then I am . no more then
anyone else.

News / Mine disaster in Poland [23]


This seems to be happening alot- recently in America, now Poland?

Travel / Why is Poland so Un-Sexy? [84]


your a fine one to talk! Last I heard, this forum was owned by someone else.

Genealogy / Luranc/Lorans surname [17]


wanted to say, my moms uncles did change their name to lorenc then to lorence.

finding all their info was pretty darn challenging, course here i have all of it now,
but now, its all poland. :) Ill never find it ...

Travel / Why is Poland so Un-Sexy? [84]

Now that there is no excuse for. she had no right to grab you, that isnt from
post war, that is plain downright rudeness.
she couldnt grab you mom by the arm like that , I am sure your mom would have
knocked her silly, I know my mom would.

Travel / Why is Poland so Un-Sexy? [84]

lol maciej, that you did!! I see a side to you I never saw before lol lmao!

BUT its all in good fun.

Travel / Why is Poland so Un-Sexy? [84]


Not at all, rather cool! all around nice guy! by the way hows those smelly books :)

lol - kidding :)

Life / Worrying observation about Polish attitudes to lying and cheating [62]


I agree with this, as in 9th grade, i had chicken pox and was off for 3 weeks of school
math was not my favorite subject, and when I came back to school to get all my
homework, the teacher handed me by mistake the teachers handbook.

I tried to not use it as i had my own, but I had asked her to help me with understanding
the homework she gave " back then she was a drinker" so when I asked her she
looked at me dumbfounded and said just follow the directions.

so I used the book to get me thru all the answers and tried to understand it, but
still had trouble, that section of learning I did cheat, and with good reasons, no one
was helping me to learn, especially the teacher. my parents couldnt help because they
both dropped out to help their parents and work. so I was on my own, I dont feel
bad that I did that, because I was cheated from learning.

I think it depends on Why/What. every situation is different. I didnt want to get a
bad grade all because my teacher was to drunk to work with me.

Travel / Why is Poland so Un-Sexy? [84]


Aniah, No prob :)

Life / Worrying observation about Polish attitudes to lying and cheating [62]


your right, but as he stated on that post, and I was going to say maybe it was because
of history and how poland has been CHEATED so many times !

WOW, I was thinking that. serious!

Genealogy / Luranc/Lorans surname [17]

what town? lol.

ive got four great uncles, one who came to the states, other three stayed in poland.
whether they survived the war (dont know)

there are more then one osiek, mine is located near Oswiecim.

I was also told by my mom, my grandmother said her father was like a mayor
someone told me this would be town administrator. I dont know cause
I cant find links to anything pertaining to this.

I dont know polish, so there fore, grandpas legend is just that, a legend ...
cant prove his involvment in politics.

Genealogy / Luranc/Lorans surname [17]


yes, agree, and I am sure they are all polish, what I heard thru family stories
was GGG grandfather was military, fell in love with Polish maiden, gave up rank
horse and all, moved to poland to be with his love.

it was a story passed down, I have no proof, I dont doubt it isnt true, but would like
to further the history if I need to go in another direction and find the area they
started from. this name has had me stuck for a while.