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wladek   
18 Jul 2008
History / massacres of poles in volhynia 1943 [67]

I am appalled by the lack of knowledge on the part of responders about the crimes of OUN-UPA and its various military and para-military formations, namely the SS and auxiliary police. It seems that no one knows the scope of these crimes. At least 120-160,000 people were murdered in Wolyn alone.. SS-Roland murdered thousands of Jews and Poles in Lwow and surrounding regions when they accompanied the German army in June of 1941. In the first six months in 1944, 50,000 of the remaining Poles were murdered by SS-Galizien and UPA. Even Germans were appalled by the bestiality of these deranged hateful people.

For the “forgive, forget and lets get on” crowd, let me ask you what it is that you are trying to forgive. Would it be the hanging of dead Polish children on fences, a most popular expression of the hatred of these people? Did the OUN-UPA perpetrators ask for forgives? Would you forgive the Nazi party and its SS? That is what OUN and UPA were respectively and still are. There can not be any “forgiveness” until the Ukrainian nation as a whole condemns the Extremist Nazis among them, the OUN and UPA instead of building monuments to them. Most you are oblivious of the depth of hatred among Ukrainian ultranationalists towards Poland and Poles. Even during Stalinist era when as many 1.5-2 million Ukrainians form Wolyna, Tarnopol, Lwov and Stanislawow were deported to Syberia or killed, the hatred of OUN was directed against Poland.

Please, no more lying, distorting and apologizing for some of the most hideous crimes of WWII, not committed by the Germans or the Soviets, but by the Ukrainians.
wladek   
18 Jul 2008
News / Absolutely balanced vision of Russo-Polish affairs (in Russian) [39]

I cannot read Russian so I used the Google translator to find out what this article was all about. The translation is adequate to make some judgments. The article is a classic Soviet propaganda piece full of historical distortions and lies. First of all the Poles did not murder Russian prisoners of war in 1920. That is one of the big lies in Soviet history used to divert attention from the fact that NKVD did murder prisoners as a matter of policy and the Red Armies of Lenin did the same. During WWII probably over 3 million prisoners of war were murdered by NKVD. Anywhere from 120-180,000 Polish prisoners of war were murdered by the NKVD between 1939 and Dec. 1941. Katyn is only a symbol of these crimes.

Here is another seemingly innocuous lie but a very big lie just the same. Quote:
“Many wonder why images of Poles in Dostoevsky's novels are always negative.” That is a big lie. I read his “Notes from the Underground” in which Dostoyevski describes his life in a Siberian prison and his many contacts with Poles all of whom he admired. I think this lie is included to show that Poles were hated by anti-Tsarist Russians, for whatever it is worth.

What one sees in this article is the classic Russian non-response to issues. Instead of responding to charges, they go into attack mode and throw a thousand lies out there for people to read. Most people just don’t have the patience for it. Those who read such trash end up believing some of the lies, because they cannot fathom the fact there there is no truth at all in the entire article.