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sjam   
20 May 2009
History / Poland: dont blame us its the Germans. [174]

Dariusz had a point with ethnic minorities. Besides the Jews, they didn't have many.

The Polish 1931 census (from Wiki seems) to indicate that the Ukranians were a larger ethnic minority than Jews in Poland? And that non-Poles made up 31.1% of the population.

Polish census of 1931
Population and main minorities
total=32,108,000
Poles= 21,835,000
Ukranians/Belarusians 6,418,000
Jews = 3,114,000
Germans= 741,000

* Poles, 68.9% of the population
* Ukrainians, 13.9%
* Jews, 8.7%
* Belarusians, 3.1%
* Germans, 2.3%
* Other, 3.1%
sjam   
18 May 2009
History / Poland: dont blame us its the Germans. [174]

The war ended 64 years ago, kapisz?

In the context of Poland this depends which history books you are looking at—you could take a look at:
Atlas polskiego podziemia niepodległościowego 1944-1956 : Dr. Rafał Wnuk, Wydawca: IPN, Rok wydania: 2007
sjam   
18 May 2009
History / Poland: dont blame us its the Germans. [174]

it won't change one yota but who cares....

.... These people obvioulsy do.

Neo-Nazis screaming 'Heil Hitler' attack concentration camp survivors during memorial service for 345,000 dead [/url]
12th May 2009
dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1180599/Neo-Nazis-attack-concentration-camp-survivors-memorial-service-345-000-dead.html

Masked neo-Nazi thugs screamed 'Heil Hitler!' and 'This way for the gas!' at ten elderly Italian men and women, who returned to the site of the Mauthausen concentration camp in Austria.

The gang also fired air guns at a group of 15 French survivors, many dressed in the striped pyjama-style uniforms they wore as inmates. One suffered a head wound while another was injured by a shot in the neck. The four thugs managed to escape.

But the same spirit that kept them alive back then was still evident among the survivors who fought with the cowards who desecrated the memory of their dead comrades.

They even succeeded in ripping the mask from one of them and taking his picture with a mobile telephone camera.

people are still pointlessly, um, pointing back to WWII :(

Maybe if you were a victim/survivor it wouldn't seem so pointless.
sjam   
15 May 2009
History / Kielce Prison History [5]

I knew an AK veteran (he died in US recently) who originally served with cichociemni"Robot"s group then subsequently with "Ponury" and "Nurt". On August 5, 1945 whilst he was in 2 Pulk Piechoty Legionow AK, 2nd Battalion, 3rd Company they attacked the Polish communist police prison in Kielce and freed imprisoned AK members.

Wlodzimierz Kolaczkiewicz former soldier of Narodowe Sily Zbrojne [National Armed Forces], recalls this action to free prisoners held in the Kielce prison:
sjam   
14 May 2009
News / Anti Gravity Device in Ludwikowice Kłodzkie in Silesia [8]

These two books might be of interest :-)

Reich of the Black Sun: Nazi Secret Weapons and the Cold War Allied Legend

The SS Brotherhood of the Bell: The Nazi's Incredible Secret Technology


both by by J.P. Farrell.
sjam   
4 May 2009
History / An apology to Poland from Australia [55]

ex

NWE

I used to enjoy reading NWE and now the New Poland Express when the NPE email server is working :-))
sjam   
9 Apr 2009
History / Generał Nil [39]

I still remember when Sjam called openly for murder of Polish babies

You remember this? Really? Please show me any post of mine where I ever mentioned 'Polish babies' let alone openly called for their murder? I have not ever mentioned babies of any kind, well maybe I might have called you a baby before but if I haven't I should have done as it would be true ;-)

disregard his posts he's anti-Polish.

I agree 100% I am anti-Polish when it comes to Polish anti-semites like you Sokrates and your ilk!

I concur.

I repeat.... that is just your opinion. Mine is direct experience of which you can have no knowledge.
sjam   
8 Apr 2009
History / Generał Nil [39]

Boll*x.

Well that is just your opinion. Mine is direct experience of which you can have no knowledge.
sjam   
8 Apr 2009
History / Generał Nil [39]

Her Majesty's soil is Britain.

Her subjects are UK citizens like you.

People who defend this soil and its citizens are soldiers.

Were you or are you just a keyboard warrior?

So you are a British soldier now? Well full respect! I am totally behind our forces in Iraq and Afghanistan; unlike a number of our fellow citizens.

Have I ever served as a soldier? Almost but no.

When I was a teenager, my when I was a teenager, father wanted me to follow his footsteps (like father's do) and join the British Army. So he applied on my behalf to Officer Cadet School, which at the time was based in Dover, but as he was Polish (and despite being a serving soldier in British Forces himself) I was excluded from selection because I wasn't 100% British origin! Rules were rules and the officer class was very British only. My father was told by his regimental commander that no matter what he achieved in service he would never rise rank to be a commisioned officer as he was Polish!
sjam   
8 Apr 2009
History / Generał Nil [39]

Harry, you just don't get it Poland isn't free! It still remains firmly in the grip of the communists that Poles appear to be unable to dislodge no matter who they voted for since 1989. The elections have been rigged to keep the 'commies' in power.

These wily old communists are such political chameleons that Poles like 1jola can't distinguish them from true democrats so they just keep getting voted back in to power.

Maybe they should be rounded up; forced to wear a big red star on their clothes and be herded into special 'social' camps where they can be kept an eye on?? Then Poland would at last be free!

On the other hand, I spend time on Her Majesty's soil ready to defend her subjects like you, have you?

This seems to have lost something in translation to me?
sjam   
8 Apr 2009
History / Generał Nil [39]

You have contact with Polish veterans in the UK, I believe. Instead of anonymously telling me that my parents weren't patriots, why don't you tell the veterans to their face who moved to the UK that they are not patriots and report to us on the outcome of that conversation.

This is a good point, and is one that I have spoken with veterans about previously even my own father when he was alive.

So I can report back:

The Polish Forces that were either stationed in the UK or were in western Europe and Italy during WWII swore a military oath of allegiance to the the Polish-government-in-Exile, which you might not know, was based in London after the fall of France.

After Yalta conference, the USA and Britain de-recognised the legitimate government of Poland based in London in favour of the communist Lublin puppet regime in Poland. However the Polish-government-in-exile quite rightly refused to accept this position as they were of course still the legal government of sovereign Poland and remained in London despite the recognition of the Lublin committee by the British.

The British decided that the Poles must be demobilised however General Anders was quite clear that Polish Forces were still under military oath to the Polish-government-in-exile despite whatever the British thought or did. General Anders firmly believed, as did his forces, that in the period after WII a war would break out between the USA and the USSR so his forces were best placed outside of Poland for this eventuality.

Anders plan to deploy all the Polish Forces from Italy, the UK and Europe in Germany in 1946 was naturally thwarted by the British and Americans. But Anders and his men remained loyal, bound by their oath, to their government. (BTW. Anders also tried to set up a military alliance with Franco in Spain as he believed Spain would become the western front of this impending war with USSR. Franco let Anders set-up an anti-communist propaganda broadcasting station in Spain, and discussed a Catholic alliance against the USSR and the stationing of Polish troops in Spain).

So there was no question over the patriotism of the Polish Forces in UK after the war, they remained loyal to their government though this was based in London. Many of these veterans were active in keeping the hope of a free Poland akive in the minds of the "west'. Without their support and efforts nobody (not even in Poland) would have known anything during the communist regime about Poland's contribution to the Allied victory over the Nazis.

Your parents were merely some of the 750,000 Polish economic migrants that left communist Poland during 1960s to 80's for the USA were they not? You said they applied to leave Poland behind and communist Poland agreed to let them go. Why aren't you questioning them about their lack of the patriotism that you seem to prize so highly now?
sjam   
7 Apr 2009
History / Generał Nil [39]

So are you suggesting that Poles were too dumb to vote for anyone other that the good old communist lackies then? There were no opposition parties to choose from? None at all? How sad there were so few Polish patriots who were democrats to offer themselves for election. Oh well there's always next time I guess, or will Poland always be under the communist yoke?

You are clearly not a Polish patriot: a patriot would never choose to abandon his country in search of a more comfortable life in the USA.

Maybe not you, maybe just your parents (as you were a kid when took you to USA to escape the regime) but he has got a point really you must be disappointed they were not to have been involved with the patriotic democracy movement in Poland? I guess Poland will win out one day, with your help of course, now your back in Poland — go for it I say :-)))

Don't worry I'll boot me off your thread ;-)))
sjam   
7 Apr 2009
History / Generał Nil [39]

Hang on a minute? Do Poles not freely elect their own government these days?
Do Poles not know who was a former communist 'lackey' or not when they fill out the ballot papers? Don't the Polish government appoint the senior judges at the Justice Department and the head of IPN and similar organisations? If not why not—seems Poland needs to get its political and governmental system in order first; no wonder no one has been prosecuted; Polish Jews or otherwise!

Polish People's Republic was not Polish

Where did all the Poles go? Did they all go and live in USA?

the courts have been rejecting them ruling that the Stalinist prosecutors and judges were acting according to the then existing laws. This argument is weak

I can see the logic of the legal argument, if state torture and murder was within the laws of communist Poland. But again if this was such a big issue for the majority of Poles, why don't Poles vote in a government that will turf the court officials out of office and change the laws re culpability for state crimes in communist Poland?

What ongoing political campaigns are there to change the situation?
sjam   
7 Apr 2009
History / Generał Nil [39]

Where is justice?

Maybe you could start a private legal petition against the Polish government as this is where any responsibilty rests to prosecute these state crimes?

What are the Statute of Limitations laws in Poland?

I think it has been posted elsewhere (by Harry?) that Israel has 25 year Statute of Limitations law but I may be misquoting here.

Presumably Poland has an extradition treaty with Israel for those perpetrators who may living there? But for those in Poland presumably arrest warrants have never been issued? Maybe Poles prefer not to look into this to deeply as they might not like to know how many Poles could be implicated in the entire sad process—from arrest, torture to state murder.

I know that under international law there is no statute of limitations for war crimes but I guess this may not cover the state murder of Fieldorf. Unless at this time Poland was considered to be in a 'civil' war; which many academics believe it was. Is a crime such as this under 'civil' war a war crime? I would argue it was, and Feildorf was a 'prisoner of war' therefore no statute of limitations should apply.

Interestingly in 2008 the Israelli Knesset approved a law stating that there will be no statute of limitations on crimes relating to the assassination of a prime minister; I think specifically one of their PMs.

"The assassination of a prime minister in a democratic Jewish state is a crime that no less grave than the crimes of the Nazis, and there is no statute of limitations on their crimes,"

or maybe the majority of Poles simply couldn't give a damn about this issue?

Israel's extradition law would preclude any prosectutions of alledged perpetrators in Feildorf's state murder.

Section 9 of the Criminal Procedure Law (Consolidated version),
5742-1982, provides as follows with regard to the general
prescription of offences:

Prescription of Offense- "(a) Unless otherwise provided in another law,
a person shall not be brought to trial for an offense if a period as stated
hereunder has elapsed since the day of his commission:

(1) in the case of a felony with life sentence – twenty years;

(2) in the case of a felony - ten years;"

sjam   
3 Apr 2009
History / Jewish love towards Poles [389]

Sokrates and others like to quote from .polonica.net so you'll get the picture on some of the Poles on PF :-))

Compare to Nazi anti-semitic image from 1930's

Nazi propaganda: The Eternal Jew

broken link removed
sjam   
2 Apr 2009
History / Czterej pancerni i pies- Communist propaganda? [16]

Filios1:
Another fact is that Russians did not rape, or murder while passing through Poland.

So in the next sentence you say these "Russian brothers" did rape and murder Poles in Poland? If that is the case then what is the point of writing the first contradictory sentence where you catagorically state as actual fact the Russians did not rape and murder in Poland? So who is the fool who can't even read or understand what they themselves have written :-)

Stalin condoned rape as an instrument of state military policy. Didn't Stalin say something along the lines that, "people should understand it if a soldier who has crossed thousands of kilometres through blood and fire and death has fun with a woman or takes some trifle".

Was rape and murder by the Red Army just a few isolated cases in Poland? Did "our Russian brothers" say to themselves, "Hang on guys let's wait until we get to Prussia before we have some fun with a trifle"? Certainly not.

"Ravishing the Women of Conquered Europe"

"... 182 Catholic nuns were raped. In the diocese of Kattowitz 66 pregnant nuns were counted. In one convent when the Mother Superior and her assistant tried to protect the younger nuns with outstretched arms, they were shot down. A priest reported in Nord Amerika magazine for November 1, 1945, that he knew "several villages where all the women, even the aged and girls as young as twelve, were violated daily for weeks by the Russians."

A few of our slitty eyed mongol Russian brothers no doubt!
sjam   
27 Mar 2009
News / Some Poles burning American flag [299]

Nobody I know has ever heard of this Retinger....

Well if you haven't heard of him therefore he never existed :-))

Jozef Retinger:Co-founder of the Bilderberger Group (1952–1959)

The Bilderberger's have played a key role in every advance of European supranationalism, from the European Coal and Steel Community to the Common Market to the EU. Ernst van der Beugel, honorary secretary-general of the BG and vice president of the Dutch affiliate of the CFR*, matter-of-factly explains in his 1966 book, From Marshall Aid to Atlantic Partnership, how his Bilderberg-CFR friends in the U.S. government utilized their offices and U.S. funding to strong-arm or bribe European leaders who resisted the European Movement.

*Council on Foreign Relations
sjam   
27 Mar 2009
News / Some Poles burning American flag [299]

Secret governments—Bilderberg, why not add Carlists, Freemasons the Elders of Zion and the rest; all busy tripping over each other to secretly rule the world—maybe you are eating too much conspiracy theory pie :-))

With respect Retinger wasn't born with his contacts; he found them out and with shared vision acted to change the world. And you think men like Retinger had nothing to be proud of— how so? Based on your own life's contribution—which would be to date?

Józef Retinger:
Director of the London Office of the Polish National Committee (1912–1914)
Representative in the United Kingdom of the Polish Socialist Party (1924–1928)
Personal Adviser to General Plutarco Calles, President of the Republic of Mexico (1919–1936)
Personal Adviser to General W. Sikorski, Prime Minister of Poland (1939–1943)
Initiator of the Interallied Committee of Foreign Ministers (1942–1944)
Co-founder of the Independent League for European Cooperation (1946–1948) and Secretary-General of the European League for Economic Cooperation (1948–1960)
Member of the International Committee of the Movements for European Unity (1947–1948)
Secretary-General of the European Movement (1948–1950)
Co-founder of the Bilderberger Group (1952–1959)
sjam   
27 Mar 2009
News / Some Poles burning American flag [299]

Apart from the European Movement, whose aims are largely propagandist and political' ... 'it was he who created the European League for Economic Cooperation.... He inspired the setting up of the Central and Eastern European Commission of the European Movement.... He later founded the Bilderberg Group....These meetings brought together leading statesmen who could discuss their problems in privacy and exchange points of view with men of Actual eminence in other countries. It was Joseph R. who brought them together and knew them all personally. I have travelled a great deal with J. R. his friendships in high places were extraordinary. I remember in the USA his picking up the telephone and immediately making an appointment with the President and in Europe he had the complete entree in every political circle, as a kind of right, acquired through the trust devotion and loyalty he inspired... With his passing, Poland has lost a great patriot and Britain and the free world the inspirer of causes that will have far-reaching intioences on the history of our time'.

Sir E. Beddington-Behrens writing to The Times on the death of Jozef Retinger in 1960.
sjam   
27 Mar 2009
History / Czterej pancerni i pies- Communist propaganda? [16]

sjam:
sjam

And your point?

A simple point.

Another fact is that Russians did not rape, or murder while passing through Poland.

Rape and murder in Poland by the 'liberating' Red Army seems to have been documented as I have posted #8 and #11.

I need not post more to prove the point that in actual fact what you state is not a fact at all!
sjam   
27 Mar 2009
News / Some Poles burning American flag [299]

Seanus:
So from not knowing anything about Retinger before I brought him to your attention yesterday, you now know everything about him and what he achieved or contrived to do or didn't do :-)) most likely based on similar websites you linked to like the authoritive website "Truefacts: Exposing the truth THEY don't want you to know!"

Come on really ;-)))

If space is curved then tangents become full circles so I guess we are done now ;-))
sjam   
26 Mar 2009
News / Some Poles burning American flag [299]

Again maybe you should contact them (your tutors) if they also haven't heard of Retinger. But I would be very surprised that they haven't.
sjam   
26 Mar 2009
News / Some Poles burning American flag [299]

So what... this forum isn't democratically elected either?
I am not on the Bilderberg Group invitation list so can't answer why teleconferencing isn't their preferred means of meeting.
IMO. The fact that you didn't hear about Retigner is I suggest a failure of your Hons and post grad ciriculum and research rather than anything else.
sjam   
26 Mar 2009
News / Some Poles burning American flag [299]

I do... Bilderberg Group is often accused by the usual bunch of conspiracy theorists of deciding the fate of the world behind closed doors and some even say the politicans and industrialists that make up the Bilderberg Group are a shadow global government :-) Like the Carlists, Freemasons and all the rest.

I wouldn't classify Retinger as a trouble maker, a founding spirit of the E.U. would be a more accurate description.
Not sure what Tehran and Yalta had to with the creation of the E.U. though pray tell?
sjam   
26 Mar 2009
News / Some Poles burning American flag [299]

IMO. Without the catalyst of the European Movement the E.U. would not have happened.

Retigner also initiated the influential Bilderberg Group and was its permanent secretary until he died in 1960... he was certainly a most influential Pole in European history!

Because of its secrecy and refusal to issue news releases, the Bilderberg Group is frequently accused of secretive and nefarious world plots.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_Group#Conspiracy_theories