News / JEW YOUTH SHOULD CLEAN UP THEIR ACT IN POLAND [420]


Just as easy as claiming that all Jewish kids are racist anti-Polish swines. Because that's exactly what you do - the same, but only the other way around.

Btw, to answer your question: I do not condone any racism by any group. But this starts again, as usual in your posts, to look like finger-pointing.

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M-G (dissenting voices are always appreciated - however, it's always the context; try and figure that out)

News / JEW YOUTH SHOULD CLEAN UP THEIR ACT IN POLAND [420]


Thank God you are always your own little disgusting self.

And as far as me being racist towards Poles: that's only personally to you as you are a little man with little thoughts and little imagination. What good would it do if I present proof of the opposite when it's constantly being dismissed as Zionist propaganda? Yes - that's how it's approached. Pardon me, but since I only react to the way ppl are, I might as well put question marks with your proof.

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M-G (tiens)

Food / Polish & American yeast and baking powder? [5]

Isn't Dekagrams the same as Decigrams or Decagrams? A Decigram = 10 grams, so 50 grams of yeast seems a normal amount to me...
(Edit: this of course depends on the amount of flour you would use)

An ounce is 28,34 gram, so indeed it seems that for some recipes there is more yeast required in Polish dishes than there is needed in American dishes.

You will need more fresh yeast than you will need powdered yeast as the latter is more concentrated. Or maybe it's just what they are used to?

1 Dekagram = 10 gram
1 Hectogram = 100 gram
1 Ounce = 28,34 gram
1 Pound = 453,59 gram

Don't think there is some "power" conversion, though. Just go by the recipe and divide everything by 28,34.

Hope this helps.

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M-G (tiens)

News / JEW YOUTH SHOULD CLEAN UP THEIR ACT IN POLAND [420]

I was referring to the original article, as I cannot read Polish.


I didn't say that it's the norm. I never did anything bad either. But you will always have a group of ppl who cannot behave when they're drunk. You really think that Israël promotes this behaviour? Sorry, but I find that hard to believe. I guess it all depends on the way some individuals are raised. Can't read the link as it's blocked here at work, but I will once I'm at home. So right now I cannot comment on it.


It's racist indeed, but I don't find this claim anywhere back in the article that I read. And I don't believe EVERY Jewish teen does this. You make it look like it does.

Let me ask you a question in return: why do you and others always take the word and opinion of one single individual as true, or more true than that what the vast majority is saying? Just because they share the same view as you? If 99 ppl say "A", for example, and 1 says "B" is that one person right and all the others are all wrong? But that's a tendency I see more often: one person claims something that is falsified by dozen others, yet it's presented as only truth. It's like saying that the village idiot is actually right when he claims he is the son of God. Only if the number of ppl saying the same as that one individual, it might be true, but for the time being, we will just take note of a differing opinion and go by the generally accepted truth. The real truth probably will lie somewhere in the middle and we will never know it, perhaps, but until we do, we go by the majority.

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M-G (work system is down)

News / JEW YOUTH SHOULD CLEAN UP THEIR ACT IN POLAND [420]


If you assault others, you can expect to be assaulted back. And if you make a habit of this, you get indeed what you deserved when you are on the receiving end of an assault. Don't rise as if you were a representative of all Poles. Most Poles are decent ppl, not all are idiots like you.

And besides, there is a link anyway: I think the problem of Jewish youths is grossly exhaggerated. Of course, there will be a group that has done *hideous acts of racism against Poles* Well, what do they do? They trashed a few hotelrooms. So what? This happens everywhere and is not committed by Jewish teens alone. Take rockstars for example, they trash hotelrooms regularily and yet everybody thinks it's cool. Because they are rockstars. Teens will be teens and the vast majority behaves themselves. It's just crap to state that this is a *hideous act of racism*. Indeed, like Seanus said: some anti-semite posting bullcrap.

I read the article again, and actually, this is the ONLY thing I could find in it that gave some sort of proof of misbehaviour:


I don't see any "racist" action mentioned in the article, and the above quoted behaviour is just standard behaviour for any teen away from home for the first time. As you added of course the extra dimension of the origin of these teens, the link is easily made. Do Polish teens behave so much different when they are abroad? Do Dutch, British, German, Spanish, Italian teens behave different? Some will, some won't, but they are young and they are in a group. They will drink, they will trash some stuff. We all have done it when we were young and all of those who are complaining about this have apparently forgotten that they were young themselves too.

At least the Israelian government has the decency to restructure the programme of information, set up a scheme of tasks for the kids to do and the like. Is the Polish government starting a scheme to re-educate those drunk individuals who roam Dublin's streets every weekend, vomiting in doorsteps, screaming and shouting and throwing garbage cans around? :)

Edit: an English link would be nice.

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M-G (they're just kids - don't make such a big fuss of it)

History / Responsibility for Murder of Catholic Poles during WWII ? [172]

1jola

Oh, I'm relaxed enough. This is just internet and when I write agitated it doesn't mean that I really am. I write for a living, you know. So I can write any way I want to. Sometimes I write agitated, sometimes I don't write agitated. Sometimes things annoy me sometimes they don't. Simple as that. Maybe you were just the next one in a long line of ppl here trying to prove that the Jews are actually very bad, no matter in what form this badness may occur. It started to annoy me after reading depraved idiots ranting on about this. You were just one who was trying to say the same, only with different means. And it's funny that those same ppl get on their hind legs once you even so much as slightly hint that Poles just maybe could've been bad - yet no-one calls them an idiot. And I am supposed to be portrayed as a basket case, simply because I get annoyed by this archaic nonsense? Heck no, I'm as sane as the next guy, I just don't take that crap.

derek trotter

Does the above answer your remark? I think that speaking of a certain group of ppl like that is not of this time anymore.

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M-G (tiens)

Life / Why do Poles and other Europeans use the Lords name in vain so often ???? [28]

Dice

Don't worry. The white bus with those nice young men in their clean white coats is coming soon for him.

away guy also thinks he's Napoleon.

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M-G (they're coming to take guy away haha hihi hoho)

Life / Why do Poles and other Europeans use the Lords name in vain so often ???? [28]

away guy

When is the white bus coming?

We never had a communists' régime, but we swear and curse like it's a crying shame. So what Derek Trotter says is not entirely true. But to be more serious: even though I am not religious at all, I try to prevent cursing as much as I can (gvd!), not because I might offend some 2000 year old god, but it generally doesn't make you look nice as a person. Not that I am *peep* holier than the *peep* Pope, that *peep* anti *peep* condom warrior, but I'm just *peep* saying, do you *peep* hear me? *peep*!

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M-G (they're coming to take guy away, haha hihi hoho, to the funny farm where life is beautiful all the time)

News / JEW YOUTH SHOULD CLEAN UP THEIR ACT IN POLAND [420]

Barney

Used to do that too with my friends...Indeed about topics like this. And football, yes of course, but only the Dutch teams of course although most of my friends have a strange affection for Ajax, while I'm of course in favour of Feyenoord. I always laugh at them when Ajax loses, and they get really angry when I do that. And they always laugh at me when Feyenoord loses and I get also really angry at them for that.

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M-G (Ajax - Feyenoord is a big issue in NL)

News / JEW YOUTH SHOULD CLEAN UP THEIR ACT IN POLAND [420]


Of course there is. I just said this as an example that if it turns out to be that when the numbers are higher for certain groups, you will get the same discussions all over again.


It's always a problem: do you condone an opinion that stands for the limitation of other opinions? You want to be tolerant and accept the fact that there are ppl who think like that. Yet you are being attacked by those and the system they would like to see happening, will put you in jail or worse. Yet, there is freedom of speech. I think you should draw the line where it is just words and where the words are actually turned into deeds.

Barney

You have put exactly into words what I was trying to say :)

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M-G (tiens)

History / Responsibility for Murder of Catholic Poles during WWII ? [172]


Do you really think those autocrats took the time to consult in the Talmud and to sift through 1000's of pages to find this passage? Heck no. The Jews were different, inferior, murderers of Christ or whatever, they are not equal and got their restrictions. And as vetala points out correctly, they held some sort of position as middlemen, despised by their superiors and hated by the lower class, because their superiors made them perform the impopular tasks on the plebs their superiors didn't want to do. But this was only a short period of time; as soon as the Russians came, it was over. It was also during a period in which the Polish government paved unintentionally the way for the partitions of the 18th century.


It's not just you, but I found that on this forum there are some ppl, actually a lot more than one would expect, for which Jewishness is an issue and at given times proclaim the same things that were proclaimed before or during the war, maybe not with the intent that they should be killed or something, but it was this talk that eventually led to what happened. And I cannot understand that ppl just simply can say that as if it were nothing, as if these words are not burdened (we in NL say "loaded", don't know the English term for it) and still pop up with "evidence" about evil Jews - same all over again. See, if I would have been religious, I would have been Jewish, according to Jewish religious law. But I am not, I don't have any (true!) Jewish friend and my pssbl Jewishness was never an issue, even though the fact that my grandparents were the sole survivors of their respective families. It just didn't matter. And now it suddenly seems to matter. Like I said before, I have not been that much aware of my Jewishness until I started visiting PF, or when I met my first Poles, literally: "You look Jewish." "Oh, ok." "Are you Jewish?" "My mom is, why?" "So you are a Jew." "Oh, well I suppose so." They looked at me as if I wasn't the same person they just shared a drink with. I found that really strange. Anyhow, I am propagator of world peace and I am truly convinced that we should live together without any trouble as we only got one small ball and that's all we get. We don't own the World, the World owns us. It's good to remember that. Let's not make a mess of it, ok?

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M-G (hence my nick - Mother Earth)

News / JEW YOUTH SHOULD CLEAN UP THEIR ACT IN POLAND [420]

z_darius

Are you now starting too, Darius? 6 million is based on the number of Jews before WW2 and that of after it. It's based on the bookkeeping skills of the Nazis, and they were pretty good. The estimated number of deaths at Auschwitz is app. 1,2 million during its existence, whereas Treblinka produced about 850K victims, of which 99,5 % were Jewish. I agree that 6 million as an absolute figure probably is not correct, but it's not really far besides the true number, this could be a little more, this could be a little less. It was not invented as propaganda, but to make it more comprehensable for the masses. A figure of 6 mln is easier to comprehend and remembered than 5.969.742 or 6.189.163. Capiche? The true number will never be known of all casualties, but let's not think about that. It will produce only more horrors and obsolete hatred, for which there is no place in this world anymore.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

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M-G (Darius a bit grumpy today?)

History / Responsibility for Murder of Catholic Poles during WWII ? [172]


Most rulers who put the restrictions upon them had no clue about the contents of the Judaic beliefs. There goes your theory. And again, you're doing it: putting the blame on the Jews themselves.

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M-G (tralala)

History / Responsibility for Murder of Catholic Poles during WWII ? [172]

F15guy

But that's what I have been trying to say - it's mainly a matter of "my God is better than your God" in other words: "my dad is much stronger than your dad". Religion generally brings a lot of trouble with it. One could ask himself whether you might not be better without it.


I think God is deep inside yourself and you believe in him/her/it if you believe in yourself. The "he she or it" part reminded me of the "God" that appears in the Southpark X-mas episode :)



Couldn't find a pic of the "God" in Southpark on any non-blocked site, but Jesus is a good second best ;)

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M-G (nah)

History / Responsibility for Murder of Catholic Poles during WWII ? [172]

vetala

I am reacting the way that I am approached. If somebody comes with reasonable arguments, I will react reasonable. However, if somebody tries to convince me that it's basically the Jews' own fault, then I will react and I will do so accordingly and adjusted to the person who approaches me. The more that person exhaggerates, the more I will. Depends a bit on the topic as such. But you're right, I tend to lose my objectivity at times, which is not a good thing and I am well aware of that.


Some men still are, but that's not particularily religion-driven, more frustration-driven :)

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M-G (does like vetala)

History / Responsibility for Murder of Catholic Poles during WWII ? [172]


It wasn't until much later that you introduced Israel Shahak, and then again, it's one view that doesn't necessary has to be shared by all Jews everywhere. Why don't I hear you talk about the restrictions that were put upon the Jews in Russian and Polish societies? Why do you point out ONLY this point? I have pointed out with my quote that many restrictions have been imposed on Jewish ppl throughout time. It's not really surprising that they are not very enthousiastic towards the ppl that put these upon them. Look at the Poles: the Soviets have been putting many restrictions upon them for over 4 decades after WW2, and I cannot say that the Poles are really that sympathetic towards the Russians because of that. That's understandable, and I don't blame them for it. Just like I don't blame the Jews for not really being friendly towards ppl that restrict their life in quite some ways.

And the other thing that bothers me is that you in all your ways to explain the phenomaena you still find ways to blame the Jews themselves for hatred against them. You never look at any other side, just keep pointing out that the "Judaic faith was not very friendly" towards non-Jewish ppl. Maybe the "Christian faith wasn't really friendly towards Jewish ppl" as well? Have you ever explored that pssbility? Guess you didn't and instead keep hammering on that ONE point, which is imho not the only reason for anti-semitism. It's a much more complex issue that happens in the psyche of non-Jews and has among other things, to do with the "strangeness" of Jews, compared to non-Jews, their habits and the fact that they were used by Polish nobility to do the dirty jobs they didn't want to do themselves. And whereas it's easier to simply blame the Jews ("them") than those Polish noblemen (after all, they are part of "us"), the Jews were the sucker in this case. And this was instigated maybe not solely, but for the biggest part by the non-Jewish population. And to me it just seems that this hammering on the fact that Judaism may or may not be so friendly towards gentiles, to find reasons, excuses or whatever to still say "hey look, it's not us, it's them!" Because that is what racism and anti-semitism is all about: the primitive "us against them" feeling, present in every individual as we all are primitive creatures still, no matter how advanced we may be.

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M-G (sec ergo sum)

History / Responsibility for Murder of Catholic Poles during WWII ? [172]

And some more...


So, tell me, there is no anti-semitism that is not ignited by the Jews themselves? Because that's what you're saying constantly. And you were of course wrong. But that's no surprise.

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M-G (tiens)

History / Responsibility for Murder of Catholic Poles during WWII ? [172]


I didn't start those tactics, I only respond to them and if this means lowering myself to your level for a short while, then so be it. You couldn't answer the questions and instead you start turning and twisting.

Edit: another part...


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M-G (tiens)

History / Responsibility for Murder of Catholic Poles during WWII ? [172]


What a lousy way of saying that you don't know. Self-imposed restrictions? You haven't got a clue, haven't you? I suggest you read up on your Jewish history.

Edit, but just to give you a hint:


Now go and preach your anti-semitism somewhere else.

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M-G (sec)

History / Responsibility for Murder of Catholic Poles during WWII ? [172]


If you're intending to persuade me to use some foul language like your friend Sokrates usually does, then you're wrong. I will just reverse the question back to you: are you taking your role as a racist not a little too serious? I've been a Dutch Jew all my life, only after coming here, this suddenly seemed an issue because many racists and anti-semites in here that, instead of burying their head in shame about being such pathetic losers, actually are proud of being so and are not hindred with any scrupules to proclaim their stuff. I have spent 18 years of my life in schools and Universities, I don't feel the need to defend myself against a nobody who just claims to know everything about the subject he hates. That's all I am going to say about it. Sec.


And the difference with a extremist religious muslim or hardcore-Christian being...?


That's just your personal demon. Get over it.


Sure. You surely don't need to be pointed out all the restrictions that were imposed on them from the start? After all, you know everything, so I take it you will be fully capable of answering that question. Wonder what the attitude would be of Poles when they faced likewise restrictions when coming into Ireland, the UK or Sweden...

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M-G (lunch time)

History / Responsibility for Murder of Catholic Poles during WWII ? [172]


Your muslim population is relatively smaller than we have in NL or you have in DE. This is logic, as we have been welcoming them for 4 or 5 decades already. It's a gross overstatement that everybody hates the muslims in NL, it's just a small group that has nothing better to do, therefore wants -again- put the blame for their own failure on a different group. That's all there is.


And this has exactly what to do with the fact that anti-semitism is much deeper rooted in the East than in the West? There were large Jewish minorities in the several Western European countries. Anti semitism is a state of mind - one could see the presence of a lot of Jews, muslims or whatever as an opportunity to enrich one own's culture you know.

And besides, just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean that I don't have knowledge of the matter. But that's a gross common median among all anti-semites: everybody who doesn't agree to them has no knowledge about the truth. Don't make me laugh.

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M-G (quod est permaneo vicis ego sum iens dissero est)

News / JEW YOUTH SHOULD CLEAN UP THEIR ACT IN POLAND [420]


You get what you deserve, if you make racist remarks all the time, you shouldn't be surprised and upset if somebody else starts making those same remarks towards you yourself. But I think that is too hard to understand for your limited brain anyway. After all, you're a man of limited capabilities and qualities, so it doesn't surprise me that you don't have a clue.


Grow up. If it were such a big problem, why isn't this internationally known? If I were to reason like you do, I would count those groups of drunken Poles roaming the streets in Dublin, screaming abuse in their own language (which is worse as it is also cowardly) as representative for the entire Polish ppl. But I don't and why is that? Because I am smart enough to know that these are just exceptions to the general rule. Just like those kids. And maybe it's all just overstated anyway. And about the escort of Israeli security officers for those kids: well, that is understandable, given the number of bombing- or terrorist-attacks on Israeli kids over the past 25 years. If Polish kids were bombed or attacked as frequently as Israeli kids have, the PL government would send security agents too when they went on a trip abroad. You never know if there will be some depraved Palestinian trying to kill them. And we all love our kids, you know.


I don't even want to count the number of times you made a fool out yourself and look like a racist moron.

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M-G (tiens)

News / JEW YOUTH SHOULD CLEAN UP THEIR ACT IN POLAND [420]


Nobody gives a cr*p about your views as well.


Ahwww, just because it happened a few times that the poor Poles received some racist remarks from a couple of Jewish kids that couldn't behave badly? So sad. Indeed a massive issue, but what goes around, comes around and I can't hardly count the number of Poles that I know who made racsist remarks about other foreigners AND the Irish here in Dubs. But I guess with one racist remark towards a Pole the whole Polish nation is on its hind legs while racist remarks by Poles themselves are completely understandable given the harsh past they had. How ironic.


It could be worse, he could be another you. But he's not, he's a good kid. And you should heed your own advice: go preach on the Stormfront forum. Or perhaps you're already there.

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M-G (see, one can attack somebody else without using foul language - hey, there's a lesson to be learned for you)

Love / Why are Polish girls constantly ill? [166]

Thanks. I thought it was the same as with "send". I was thinking of "tended" indeed, but I wasn't sure, that's why I asked. It's no shame to admit when you're not sure, eh? Heck, I'm a foreigner, I don't speak English anyway :)

There's definitively a point to improve there, Seanus ;)

My ex made always extra space in her budget for medicine when she went back to PL, it was an extra notch on her "to-do" list every bleeding time.

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M-G (nah)

Love / Why are Polish girls constantly ill? [166]

Don't know how it is lately, but back in the day things sometimes tent (what's the past tense of "tend"?) to get a bit smelly every now and then :)))))

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M-G (felines tend to wash themselves for four hours a day - how about sheep?)

Love / Why are Polish girls constantly ill? [166]

Yes, something like that, Seanus :)

A Dutch would also get something to help her get rid of that minor yeast-infection :))

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M-G (or simply perfume or eau de toilette)

Love / Is Sex Legal In Poland? [22]

Arien

I think you need professional help, son. I worry about you.

:)

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M-G (but it's ok, I understand)

Love / Why are Polish girls constantly ill? [166]

southern

Yeah and some girls like lollypops and some don't.

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M-G (realises the opportunity for double interpration this allegory represents)

News / JEW YOUTH SHOULD CLEAN UP THEIR ACT IN POLAND [420]

Franz Stangl, main responsible for the death of about 850.000 ppl at Treblinka, of which 99,5% were Jews and the rest non-Jews. Among them was my family.

Edit: he does look like a monster.


I want a picture of Iwan Martsjenko.

Edit2: Found him, this is Iwan the Terrible, accomplice of Iwan Demjanjuk:



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M-G (just to put it in perspective)

History / Did Ukraine really "steal" Polish land? [302]


I like Aken. It's a beautiful city. I like to be there.

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M-G (and it's close to NL too!)