ShelleyS
15 Jun 2008
History / Why has Poland been attacked so often by its neighbors? [180]
Never.
I like Croatians.
You will align yourself too soon when they get into EU.
Never.
Serbs are good guys,you will see.
I like Croatians.
ShelleyS
15 Jun 2008
Life / Polish Integration with other Nationalities [150]
Let us think for a moment and see that multi-culturism has done for the UK
The Chineese have set up massive sunk farms so they sell drugs.
The Jamacans have set up crack houses so they can sell drugs.
The muslims / Asians have bombed inocent people on their way to work.
The Africans are defrauding the benefits system by buying children in Africa and bringing them here so they can claim for them.
All the above run quite lucrative people trafficing too along with prostitution rings.
Yep multi-culturism is a wonderful thing.
Let us think for a moment and see that multi-culturism has done for the UK
The Chineese have set up massive sunk farms so they sell drugs.
The Jamacans have set up crack houses so they can sell drugs.
The muslims / Asians have bombed inocent people on their way to work.
The Africans are defrauding the benefits system by buying children in Africa and bringing them here so they can claim for them.
All the above run quite lucrative people trafficing too along with prostitution rings.
Yep multi-culturism is a wonderful thing.
ShelleyS
14 Jun 2008
ShelleyS
14 Jun 2008
History / Why has Poland been attacked so often by its neighbors? [180]
Who picks the olives?
As for the Serbs you align yourself with them....and f*ck you from Europe!
Who picks the olives?
As for the Serbs you align yourself with them....and f*ck you from Europe!
ShelleyS
14 Jun 2008
History / Why has Poland been attacked so often by its neighbors? [180]
Yeah but I don't see many Greeks crying!
Yeah but I don't see many Greeks crying!
ShelleyS
14 Jun 2008
Life / Polish Integration with other Nationalities [150]
It's all relative...a concept you're not aware of!
Here is the ignorance of a 12 year old, as I was, I thought people regardless of their colour were English..silly me, when I went to secondary school (high school for Amercians) I heard to girls ripping sh*t out of each other - Jamacans don't scare their faces like the nasty Africans and Jamacans are stupid... That was my intodcution to muticulturism!
So while I may not know much about economics, I still see that an average salary of $700 a month does not suggest a healthy middle class!
It's all relative...a concept you're not aware of!
Here is the ignorance of a 12 year old, as I was, I thought people regardless of their colour were English..silly me, when I went to secondary school (high school for Amercians) I heard to girls ripping sh*t out of each other - Jamacans don't scare their faces like the nasty Africans and Jamacans are stupid... That was my intodcution to muticulturism!
ShelleyS
14 Jun 2008
History / Why has Poland been attacked so often by its neighbors? [180]
And the Greeks had 'special' neighbours too ;-) I can see why you have such an affinity
And the Greeks had 'special' neighbours too ;-) I can see why you have such an affinity
ShelleyS
14 Jun 2008
News / EU constitution: 'Strong show' for Irish No vote ? [126]
Mr BB has already said he hasnt read the treaty and I would put my life on it to say none of the Irish that voted have read it either....it was a protests, simply a protest and nothing more!
So did you read the treaty yet?
Mr BB has already said he hasnt read the treaty and I would put my life on it to say none of the Irish that voted have read it either....it was a protests, simply a protest and nothing more!
ShelleyS
14 Jun 2008
History / Are Germans going to pay for WW2? [180]
Okay we know that certain people in Germany did horrific things in WWII, but so did every nation, because the way I see it, murdering someone is wrong!
Carol and Lukasz seem to be on some mission to bring those responsible for these atrocities before a judge and jury to make them pay maybe they haven’t realised the Nuremburg trails ended some time ago.
Has she lived in the USA so long she hasn't realised that European countries live side by side without wanting to kill each other? Is so deluded? He obviously just hates life and silly me she lives in America and like a small proportion of second generation immigrants she feels the need to blame someone..if the Irish had your attitude the 1st 2nd 3rd generation growing up in England would hate the English for starving them of their land and forcing them into dire unthinkable situations…
But you know what Carol and Luke the Irish are resilient and today have nation to be proud of, and the 1st , 2nd , 3rd generation are proud of their heritage! I don’t hate, because I’m actually grateful that my family made it out of Ireland alive and made a good life here in England, I love my country but I know my history.
Carol and Lukasz seem to want to blame someone and I personally think they are no better than the terrorists we are threatened by in this day and age! People just love to keep hate alive for there own means, it breads and festers!
Okay we know that certain people in Germany did horrific things in WWII, but so did every nation, because the way I see it, murdering someone is wrong!
Carol and Lukasz seem to be on some mission to bring those responsible for these atrocities before a judge and jury to make them pay maybe they haven’t realised the Nuremburg trails ended some time ago.
Has she lived in the USA so long she hasn't realised that European countries live side by side without wanting to kill each other? Is so deluded? He obviously just hates life and silly me she lives in America and like a small proportion of second generation immigrants she feels the need to blame someone..if the Irish had your attitude the 1st 2nd 3rd generation growing up in England would hate the English for starving them of their land and forcing them into dire unthinkable situations…
But you know what Carol and Luke the Irish are resilient and today have nation to be proud of, and the 1st , 2nd , 3rd generation are proud of their heritage! I don’t hate, because I’m actually grateful that my family made it out of Ireland alive and made a good life here in England, I love my country but I know my history.
Carol and Lukasz seem to want to blame someone and I personally think they are no better than the terrorists we are threatened by in this day and age! People just love to keep hate alive for there own means, it breads and festers!
ShelleyS
14 Jun 2008
History / Why has Poland been attacked so often by its neighbors? [180]
Of course you wouldnt know what it is like to live on rassions or to have your home flattened or to have to be sent away to live with a strange family in the country because where you live is under daily bombardment...you dont know this because you havent had parents or grand parents to re-live their accounts...
You have no idea how old I am and as for my prose, you are obviously quite naive in your thought with regards to age.
And how dare you bring Mr BB in to this! His debates are with Polish people about things that concern two nations. Something you should keep your nose out of!
well of course I wouldn't know what that was like, I was born in 1984! How old are you that you know know so much, your prose seems so youthful!
Of course you wouldnt know what it is like to live on rassions or to have your home flattened or to have to be sent away to live with a strange family in the country because where you live is under daily bombardment...you dont know this because you havent had parents or grand parents to re-live their accounts...
You have no idea how old I am and as for my prose, you are obviously quite naive in your thought with regards to age.
And how dare you bring Mr BB in to this! His debates are with Polish people about things that concern two nations. Something you should keep your nose out of!
ShelleyS
14 Jun 2008
History / Why has Poland been attacked so often by its neighbors? [180]
I didnt suggest anything, but you can not for one minute understand how it feels to live in a country that is being bombed day in day out, living in an air raid shelter or at worst living in a country where the street signs are changed into another language and you are forbidden to speak your own language...America has never had a war encroach on it's own country, apart from 9/11 which whilst was devasting and I can say the whole world was shocked and felt nothing but sorrow by that cowardist act....but that was one day....The Great War and WW11 took many lives of which most were Europeans but we live together now and have formed a bond and common goal...so your topic serves no real purpose....
I didnt suggest anything, but you can not for one minute understand how it feels to live in a country that is being bombed day in day out, living in an air raid shelter or at worst living in a country where the street signs are changed into another language and you are forbidden to speak your own language...America has never had a war encroach on it's own country, apart from 9/11 which whilst was devasting and I can say the whole world was shocked and felt nothing but sorrow by that cowardist act....but that was one day....The Great War and WW11 took many lives of which most were Europeans but we live together now and have formed a bond and common goal...so your topic serves no real purpose....
ShelleyS
14 Jun 2008
News / Ireland referendum bails Poland out [7]
Nice to see you back Michal, it's not been the same around here without you ;-)
have you read it and do you know the actual reasons behind them saying no?
Michal
Nice to see you back Michal, it's not been the same around here without you ;-)
have you read it and do you know the actual reasons behind them saying no?
ShelleyS
14 Jun 2008
Life / Polish Integration with other Nationalities [150]
You are complaining about a country where the indiginous population is white and why should you break the trend....what trend is that, should we send hords of European Catholics to Islamabad to break the trend there?
England:
Brixton - Black rioting
Oldham - Asiams rioting
yeah thats multi cuturism at its best LEAVE POLAND ALONE!
Wow I guess you just aren't capable of thinking straight. You were saying that people who complain should just leave the country - that's fascist. I'm saying that to complain is a right, and when people come here they cant help but form opinions about the place, that's human nature if you know anything at all. So why should I leave Poland if I think it's too homogenous? Again, you fail using common sense. I SHOULD STAY! So should other foreigners, and this will help break the trend a bit.
You are complaining about a country where the indiginous population is white and why should you break the trend....what trend is that, should we send hords of European Catholics to Islamabad to break the trend there?
England:
Brixton - Black rioting
Oldham - Asiams rioting
yeah thats multi cuturism at its best LEAVE POLAND ALONE!
ShelleyS
14 Jun 2008
Life / Polish Integration with other Nationalities [150]
The guy said, he would not date a WHITE woman simpley because of the colour of her skin, so if not racist, then prejudice against white women! It's not a one way street honey!
Polish and Irish and English and Irish it's all good, and weather you like it or not there are a large proportion of English with Irish surnames and some probably more Irish than yours!
I don't know if I'd call that racist as I may have thought before. I'm thinking it depends on the reasons and thinking behind that. One man said to me he wouldn't date a woman who was not white because he wouldn't be attracted to her. He said skin colour is not something we choose
The guy said, he would not date a WHITE woman simpley because of the colour of her skin, so if not racist, then prejudice against white women! It's not a one way street honey!
Polish Integration with other Nationalities
I sincerely hope Polish have integrated with my nation Ireland as well as possible and the majority of the feed back I get from home is that Polish are hard working and are well behaved.
In the not so distant future I will not be surprised to see the first real generation of Irish/Polish kids.
I sincerely hope Polish have integrated with my nation Ireland as well as possible and the majority of the feed back I get from home is that Polish are hard working and are well behaved.
In the not so distant future I will not be surprised to see the first real generation of Irish/Polish kids.
Polish and Irish and English and Irish it's all good, and weather you like it or not there are a large proportion of English with Irish surnames and some probably more Irish than yours!
ShelleyS
14 Jun 2008
Life / Polish Integration with other Nationalities [150]
Yep many Western countries are having problems with their markets which in tern is causing job losses, house repossession and a whole host of problems, but it's nice you simplify if so easily!
You went to Poland for one reason, your girlfriend!
you keep referrring to the $ and average income, but each economy is different, equivalent to $700 would just about cover my rent in the UK but would be a years salary for a field worker in India - it's about cost of living, something I dont think you are getting the gist of here.
Im not sure if you are aware but a large proportion of construction within Czech Rep is Russian and in the UK the property market is dominated in the capital by Russians, so please dont tell me that Russians are some poor down trodden
Im not sure if you are aware about economics but the first thing to go is when consumer spending minimises its spending on the high street, you will note from the link there is an upturn in retail spending...
kommersant.com/p847117/r_1/Statistics_2007_Salary/people
Yep many Western countries are having problems with their markets which in tern is causing job losses, house repossession and a whole host of problems, but it's nice you simplify if so easily!
You went to Poland for one reason, your girlfriend!
you keep referrring to the $ and average income, but each economy is different, equivalent to $700 would just about cover my rent in the UK but would be a years salary for a field worker in India - it's about cost of living, something I dont think you are getting the gist of here.
Im not sure if you are aware but a large proportion of construction within Czech Rep is Russian and in the UK the property market is dominated in the capital by Russians, so please dont tell me that Russians are some poor down trodden
Im not sure if you are aware about economics but the first thing to go is when consumer spending minimises its spending on the high street, you will note from the link there is an upturn in retail spending...
kommersant.com/p847117/r_1/Statistics_2007_Salary/people
ShelleyS
14 Jun 2008
History / Why has Poland been attacked so often by its neighbors? [180]
Since his grand parents didnt have live through air raids and occupation he doesnt have a proper understanding BB, most Europeans see it's more positive to move on, those outside see only the negatives and think that we should all hate each other still!
Since his grand parents didnt have live through air raids and occupation he doesnt have a proper understanding BB, most Europeans see it's more positive to move on, those outside see only the negatives and think that we should all hate each other still!
ShelleyS
14 Jun 2008
Life / Polish Youth - are they violent? [71]
It's like the Italians and Spanish they introduce the children to wine with dinner, for the kids as they get older, alcohol is no big deal, these are two counties I have never seen drunken kids in the street, Im not saying that they dont use booz but I think it's not as common...Oh didnt American have a prohibition period, people still made home-made moonshine which was stronger and more dangerous...
Umm...wont they just store the liquor before the shops close. I have felt much safer in Poland with its 24h liquor stores compared to Finland with its after-9 p.m. ban on any alcohol.
It's like the Italians and Spanish they introduce the children to wine with dinner, for the kids as they get older, alcohol is no big deal, these are two counties I have never seen drunken kids in the street, Im not saying that they dont use booz but I think it's not as common...Oh didnt American have a prohibition period, people still made home-made moonshine which was stronger and more dangerous...
ShelleyS
14 Jun 2008
Life / Polish Integration with other Nationalities [150]
You can conclusively refute whatever you want, but what you just described can be attributed to any country in the world...alcohol abuse is prevalent in all countries, Russia is by no means the leader. As for my implying that Russia was some form of utopia, I don’t see that I did, I was merely pointing out that they had a very good economy and are at the moment doing very well when the West are suffering.
You say that Poles corroborate you stories regarding Russians, prey tell how many Poles did you pole to come to this conclusion? Would it be fair to say that you spoke to a few people and they said that Russians are poor? If that’s the truth, we in the UK could conclude that all of Poland is poor because so many come here but that would be really just too stupid for me to believe since I’ve actually visited Poland, you however have never visited Russia, so you don’t have an informed point of view.
I’m very in tuned to my surroundings thank you very much, I’ve also taken time to do some research about Russia, you however didn’t do much research about Poland apart from get the opinions of a few ignoramuses!
Stereotypes are often outdated and somewhat like caricatures, they have a resemblance but are merely there for amusement.
Shelley I conclusively refuted your statement which was meant to imply that Russia was some kind of paradise that didn't have to deal with poverty, alcoholism, bad health,etc, no I haven't been to russia and I am not tempted. While I'm sure there are some fine places, and that stereotypes are exagerrated, many Poles here corroborate the stories of low quality of life for workers in Russia, hence the violence, crime, mortality rates, and alcoholism. You're not very in tune to your surroundings.
You can conclusively refute whatever you want, but what you just described can be attributed to any country in the world...alcohol abuse is prevalent in all countries, Russia is by no means the leader. As for my implying that Russia was some form of utopia, I don’t see that I did, I was merely pointing out that they had a very good economy and are at the moment doing very well when the West are suffering.
You say that Poles corroborate you stories regarding Russians, prey tell how many Poles did you pole to come to this conclusion? Would it be fair to say that you spoke to a few people and they said that Russians are poor? If that’s the truth, we in the UK could conclude that all of Poland is poor because so many come here but that would be really just too stupid for me to believe since I’ve actually visited Poland, you however have never visited Russia, so you don’t have an informed point of view.
I’m very in tuned to my surroundings thank you very much, I’ve also taken time to do some research about Russia, you however didn’t do much research about Poland apart from get the opinions of a few ignoramuses!
Stereotypes are often outdated and somewhat like caricatures, they have a resemblance but are merely there for amusement.
ShelleyS
14 Jun 2008
Life / Polish Integration with other Nationalities [150]
Russia are going forward it's a pitty more countires dont take that initiative, its more productive than looking back....I think their economy makes that point, dont you?
Russia are going forward it's a pitty more countires dont take that initiative, its more productive than looking back....I think their economy makes that point, dont you?
ShelleyS
14 Jun 2008
Life / Polish Integration with other Nationalities [150]
So all black American men are crack addicts, murders and rapists then or a rap artist if they're lucky to get out the ghetto!
Have you ever been to Russia? Do you actually know any Russians? And if you look at my statement I said 'some of the worlds richest people' I didn't say that everyone in Russia was a billionaire! It also has one of the fastest growing economis, whilst America is slumping fast and bringing the rest of us down with it, Russia is flourishing..
Im not the one who's had the bang to the head, I can see what's going on around me!
Yes Americans are quite ignorant but all stereotypes have a basis of truth.
So all black American men are crack addicts, murders and rapists then or a rap artist if they're lucky to get out the ghetto!
But the thing you say about russia is hilarious! Tis actually calls for a retraction.
Have you ever been to Russia? Do you actually know any Russians? And if you look at my statement I said 'some of the worlds richest people' I didn't say that everyone in Russia was a billionaire! It also has one of the fastest growing economis, whilst America is slumping fast and bringing the rest of us down with it, Russia is flourishing..
What tree did you fall out of?
Im not the one who's had the bang to the head, I can see what's going on around me!
ShelleyS
14 Jun 2008
Life / Polish Integration with other Nationalities [150]
Europeans have more in common with each other and assimilate and since we have a little thing called the European Union I would say we are one big happy family, it's free movement from one country who's economy is alike to another - the only reason so many Polish came here was because their economy wasnt up to the same standard as the West but that is changing and we are seeing less and less coming and more and more going home...
Where does it stop? I am Irish, I live in Poland. Or do you take Europe as one ShlleyS
Europeans have more in common with each other and assimilate and since we have a little thing called the European Union I would say we are one big happy family, it's free movement from one country who's economy is alike to another - the only reason so many Polish came here was because their economy wasnt up to the same standard as the West but that is changing and we are seeing less and less coming and more and more going home...
ShelleyS
14 Jun 2008
Life / Polish Integration with other Nationalities [150]
Interesting to know that your average American is quite ignorant (or maybe that's just your friends) as for the opinion of Russia, that funny actually it's really funny since Russia is the worlds largest country and has some of the worlds most wanted resources and has some of the worlds richest people, it would appear that the average Americans (your friends) opinion is worth jack sh!t!
Again why sould we force multi-culturalism on every country in Europe since I dont see many Europeans heading for Islamabad, Bombay or any of Africa..
We do however go to Aus, but the UK is full of Aussis and Kiwis so thats a fair trade!
they all thought that it was cold, borderline third-world, and full of vodka drinking slavs, which is a bit like the prevailing opinion of Russia
Interesting to know that your average American is quite ignorant (or maybe that's just your friends) as for the opinion of Russia, that funny actually it's really funny since Russia is the worlds largest country and has some of the worlds most wanted resources and has some of the worlds richest people, it would appear that the average Americans (your friends) opinion is worth jack sh!t!
Again why sould we force multi-culturalism on every country in Europe since I dont see many Europeans heading for Islamabad, Bombay or any of Africa..
We do however go to Aus, but the UK is full of Aussis and Kiwis so thats a fair trade!
ShelleyS
14 Jun 2008
ShelleyS
14 Jun 2008
ShelleyS
14 Jun 2008
Life / Poland's crazy parties [8]
Have you ever walked through a Council Estate in the UK on bonfire night?
i once went to a new year's eve party with nutters running around with lit fireworks in their hands
Have you ever walked through a Council Estate in the UK on bonfire night?
ShelleyS
13 Jun 2008
News / Thank you Ireland... EUCCP [81]
Because you asked so nicely I will, only if you promise me one thing...
Because you asked so nicely I will, only if you promise me one thing...
ShelleyS
13 Jun 2008
News / Thank you Ireland... EUCCP [81]
is that a annagram for GINGER..but you blocked the other G out?
I think you'll find that you are not in the EU and nor will Serbia be for some time, now feck off as the Irish would say!
F. out damn ni*ger.
is that a annagram for GINGER..but you blocked the other G out?
i myself respect Ireland for brave decision. We all fights togather!
I think you'll find that you are not in the EU and nor will Serbia be for some time, now feck off as the Irish would say!
ShelleyS
13 Jun 2008
UK, Ireland / ARE YOUNG BRITS LESS INTELLIGENT THAN POLES? [56]
I am in no way saying that its not the way to go because I think it is, but there isnt a pot of gold waiting at the end of the rainbow, your friends are obviously not recent grads, like anything building a career takes time but having a degree is something that opens more doors...
I am in no way saying that its not the way to go because I think it is, but there isnt a pot of gold waiting at the end of the rainbow, your friends are obviously not recent grads, like anything building a career takes time but having a degree is something that opens more doors...
ShelleyS
13 Jun 2008
Life / Polish Integration with other Nationalities [150]
Ive never had that view of Poland in fact I had never heard that Polish people drink a lot until I came to this forum, maybe that's your view!
He was being a polite racists...I wouldnt date a white person is what he meant!n If I as a white woman said I would date a black man because he was black what would people say
Anyway, back on topic, in general black women dont date white guys, its unusual and certainly not common!
I was making a point because people keep banging on about how Poland isnt very multi racial, I think, why should it be, just because every other country has the united nations at its bus stops, i dont see the reason why Poland should have to join the party if they dont want to! It isnt a very good party!
And let me tell you that such attitudes aren't in the Pole's interest since it perpetuates the stereotype of Poland as some kind of uncivilized backwater full of drunks.
Ive never had that view of Poland in fact I had never heard that Polish people drink a lot until I came to this forum, maybe that's your view!
I don't know if I'd call that racist as I may have thought before. I'm thinking it depends on the reasons and thinking behind that. One man said to me he wouldn't date a woman who was not white because he wouldn't be attracted to her. He said skin colour is not something we choose, in the way we are born with this colour of hair or eyes or whatever
He was being a polite racists...I wouldnt date a white person is what he meant!n If I as a white woman said I would date a black man because he was black what would people say
Anyway, back on topic, in general black women dont date white guys, its unusual and certainly not common!
My question though is: why ask about Polish Integration with other Nationalities? How about other nationalities integrating with Poles?
I was making a point because people keep banging on about how Poland isnt very multi racial, I think, why should it be, just because every other country has the united nations at its bus stops, i dont see the reason why Poland should have to join the party if they dont want to! It isnt a very good party!
ShelleyS
13 Jun 2008
UK, Ireland / ARE YOUNG BRITS LESS INTELLIGENT THAN POLES? [56]
If only that were true the average grad can expect to earn circa. 18k a year - a Solicitor training gets only about 14K thats after they have graduated uni with a law degree..., not sure where you get your numbers from Mr R but it's simply not true..You only have to look at the graduate training programmes in all the large companies and the salaries they offer...
yup.you are right but after the uni one can earn 30.000£-40.000 a year insted of 15.000£ a year.it is all about how determined people are to improve their lives.sometimes they just choose the easier way.
If only that were true the average grad can expect to earn circa. 18k a year - a Solicitor training gets only about 14K thats after they have graduated uni with a law degree..., not sure where you get your numbers from Mr R but it's simply not true..You only have to look at the graduate training programmes in all the large companies and the salaries they offer...