Bratwurst Boy
27 Jan 2009
History / Polish Anti-semitism - origins? [186]
I know what you mean and I feel sorry for it but I can't change it....
I know what you mean and I feel sorry for it but I can't change it....
Bratwurst Boy
27 Jan 2009
History / Polish Anti-semitism - origins? [186]
Brainwashed by whom?
If they do, they are easily brainwashed.
Brainwashed by whom?
Bratwurst Boy
27 Jan 2009
History / Polish Anti-semitism - origins? [186]
That was rather meant sarcastically...mind you...my english sucks!
Yes...the Nazis surely planned to lose the war and the camps becoming focus of international interest...tricky guys!
PS. Bratwurst Boy: "Why do you think the world is focusing on Poles..."
That was rather meant sarcastically...mind you...my english sucks!
Simply because you tricky Germans choose Poland as a main place for concentration camps
Yes...the Nazis surely planned to lose the war and the camps becoming focus of international interest...tricky guys!
Bratwurst Boy
27 Jan 2009
Law / Poland: the most attractive European country for future investors [55]
Any links for that?
The thing is that the "normal" people in Europe don't like to see Poland rise and benefit to much.
Any links for that?
Bratwurst Boy
26 Jan 2009
History / Polish Anti-semitism - origins? [186]
Yeah...that's why Poles and Russians thought why not put another one to them, be it Katyn or Jedwabne, who cares after all..
BB: Germans did plenty of that kind of jobs
Yeah...that's why Poles and Russians thought why not put another one to them, be it Katyn or Jedwabne, who cares after all..
Bratwurst Boy
26 Jan 2009
History / Polish Anti-semitism - origins? [186]
There might be some truth to that....
Why? Because there had to be some way to justify Yalta.
There might be some truth to that....
Bratwurst Boy
26 Jan 2009
History / Polish Anti-semitism - origins? [186]
I searched everywhere but COULD NOT FIND ONE historian or one little quote who claims that it was the Germans!
Even the polish Institute of Remembrance researched this case and came to the conclusion that it was NOT the Germans...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Institute_of_National_Remembrance
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedwabne_pogrom
There were pogroms in eastern Europe before the Nazis came...you surely didn't need the Germans for that!
Even Kwasniewski knew better:
info-poland.buffalo.edu/classroom/J/PresK.html
....but who knows...maybe it's just one big anti-polish conspiration..
BB: If you want to go deeper in the case please read debated issues.
I searched everywhere but COULD NOT FIND ONE historian or one little quote who claims that it was the Germans!
Even the polish Institute of Remembrance researched this case and came to the conclusion that it was NOT the Germans...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Institute_of_National_Remembrance
The Polish Institute of National Remembrance subsequently issued findings in support of Gross' claims.[1][2][3]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedwabne_pogrom
Naturally, these unfortunate events would not ever have happened if Nazi Germany and Soviet Union had not invaded Poland.
There were pogroms in eastern Europe before the Nazis came...you surely didn't need the Germans for that!
Even Kwasniewski knew better:
I am saying it after the completion of the investigation conducted by appropriate judicial authorities in Poland. Despite a long time that has past since that moment, few witnesses and little evidence, the findings unequivocally state that the people from Jedwabne were murdered by their Polish neighbors.
info-poland.buffalo.edu/classroom/J/PresK.html
....but who knows...maybe it's just one big anti-polish conspiration..
Bratwurst Boy
25 Jan 2009
History / Polish Anti-semitism - origins? [186]
Any links?
Number of other historians claim direct German participation.
Any links?
Bratwurst Boy
24 Jan 2009
Life / How do Poles feel about non whites/non Slavs living in Poland? [150]
*sings*
"Seanus and Gregor sitting in a tree...."
:)
*sings*
"Seanus and Gregor sitting in a tree...."
:)
Bratwurst Boy
24 Jan 2009
Life / How do Poles feel about non whites/non Slavs living in Poland? [150]
*nods*
*double nods*
Personally i accept European people or non-European people with European roots living here.
*nods*
but i would like Poland to avoid what happened to the UK or Germany.
*double nods*
Bratwurst Boy
24 Jan 2009
History / Polish Anti-semitism - origins? [186]
More than 3 months surely...:)
The Jews take it still seriously:
paulasays.com/articles/about_the_holocaust/about_poland/jedwabne.html
Which centuries ?
More than 3 months surely...:)
Really ? Gross is a zoological Polonophobe, who made a career spreading hate and chuvanism.
The Jews take it still seriously:
paulasays.com/articles/about_the_holocaust/about_poland/jedwabne.html
Bratwurst Boy
24 Jan 2009
History / Polish Anti-semitism - origins? [186]
Not much intermarriage between Poles and Germans during the centuries as Poles were subjugated to Germans and Russians but 3 month of rape excesses make the Germans russian?
But then you are believing also that Poles could have crushed Prussia any time if they had just wanted to...nothing beats a nice illusion, doesn' it!
Oddly enough no, there wasnt much intermarriage between Germans and Poles and the vast majority of rapes that happened happened on Germans so tovarish Bratwurst zdarava!
Not much intermarriage between Poles and Germans during the centuries as Poles were subjugated to Germans and Russians but 3 month of rape excesses make the Germans russian?
But then you are believing also that Poles could have crushed Prussia any time if they had just wanted to...nothing beats a nice illusion, doesn' it!
Bratwurst Boy
23 Jan 2009
History / Polish Anti-semitism - origins? [186]
As must Poles during the Centuries being happy citizens of Prussia, Austria and Russia?
As must Poles during the Centuries being happy citizens of Prussia, Austria and Russia?
Bratwurst Boy
22 Jan 2009
History / Poland and Lithuania [161]
Give me some quotations
...according to surveys conducted in the spring of 1990, 47% of Poles in Lithuania supported the pro-Soviet Communist party (in contrast to 8% support among ethnic Lithuanians), while 35% supported Lithuanian independence.[25]
Bratwurst Boy
22 Jan 2009
History / Poland and Lithuania [161]
Interesting article:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_minority_in_Lithuania
If that is true it seems that the lithuanian Poles were on the soviet side as he SU collapsed and Lithuania sought to get free...hence the tensions.
But they are in the EU now....there are rules and laws for all minorities in each member states!
Interesting article:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_minority_in_Lithuania
If that is true it seems that the lithuanian Poles were on the soviet side as he SU collapsed and Lithuania sought to get free...hence the tensions.
But they are in the EU now....there are rules and laws for all minorities in each member states!
Bratwurst Boy
20 Jan 2009
History / Lusatians our neighbours. [10]
Don't let that hear Crow...Turks and Slavs as "brothers"! :)
They forgot to ask Crowie...
Turks living in Germany can support their Lusatian brothers :
Don't let that hear Crow...Turks and Slavs as "brothers"! :)
most historians are not really sure who they were.
They forgot to ask Crowie...
Bratwurst Boy
20 Jan 2009
Bratwurst Boy
19 Jan 2009
History / Prussian History [29]
:) Very far gone history! :):):)
Come to think of....
It took a German to defeat the Order....how does that make you feel? :)
:) Very far gone history! :):):)
Come to think of....
During the Battle of Grunwald in 1410, Nicholas von Renys carried the banner of the Culmerland troops for the Teutonic Order. He lowered the banner prematurely, which was considered a signal for retreat that contributed to the defeat of the Knights.
The Lizard Union was believed to have been behind messages sent from Kulm advising surrender to the Order's capital of Marienburg...
The Lizard Union was believed to have been behind messages sent from Kulm advising surrender to the Order's capital of Marienburg...
It took a German to defeat the Order....how does that make you feel? :)
Bratwurst Boy
19 Jan 2009
History / Polish Anti-semitism - origins? [186]
What??? Hatie is a true stinking European??? uh oh...:(
So your anti-european rants were more like self criticism, yes?
My dad's family are from Poland which makes me more Polish than Seanus :)
What??? Hatie is a true stinking European??? uh oh...:(
So your anti-european rants were more like self criticism, yes?
Bratwurst Boy
19 Jan 2009
History / Prussian History [29]
spoil sport! :)
You should really loosen up Luki....it's all far gone history!
spoil sport! :)
You should really loosen up Luki....it's all far gone history!
Bratwurst Boy
19 Jan 2009
History / Prussian History [29]
Probably yes :)
Yup....you see? Poles and Germans aren't born enemies! *hugs Luki* :)
Na ja....quite the reverse!
As the Bambers became polonized the Masuren were mostly germanized....
Poles and Germans "...ized" each other quite heavily during the millennia! :)
We should really build a new nation...Polany...or Germand...or ....or...hmmm:):):)
....we would have a great football team already...
Propably yes, propably not.
Probably yes :)
The fact is that Prussian Confederation lead to
Yup....you see? Poles and Germans aren't born enemies! *hugs Luki* :)
Mazurs history is similar to Bambers history
Na ja....quite the reverse!
As the Bambers became polonized the Masuren were mostly germanized....
Poles and Germans "...ized" each other quite heavily during the millennia! :)
We should really build a new nation...Polany...or Germand...or ....or...hmmm:):):)
....we would have a great football team already...
Bratwurst Boy
19 Jan 2009
Bratwurst Boy
19 Jan 2009
History / Prussian History [29]
Hmmm...I posted from wiki....
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masuren
See?
Interesting history nonetheless....inhabited by the ur-Prussians which got killed by the Order, then later by said Order and german settlers who in turn invited polish settlers...
Hmmm...I posted from wiki....
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masuren
Jahrhundert immer mehr zugunsten der deutschen Sprache aufgegeben wurde.
See?
Interesting history nonetheless....inhabited by the ur-Prussians which got killed by the Order, then later by said Order and german settlers who in turn invited polish settlers...
Bratwurst Boy
19 Jan 2009
History / Prussian History [29]
They weren't "old" Prussians...those were either dead or assimiliated already but
Who very probably shortly before were still fighting for the Order as all nobles were.
Or how do you think they became knights and nobles if not through fighting for the Order and in return awarded by it?
Thanks
As to the old Prussians, they had different political afilmation durring history
They weren't "old" Prussians...those were either dead or assimiliated already but
organization of Prussian nobles and knights
Who very probably shortly before were still fighting for the Order as all nobles were.
Or how do you think they became knights and nobles if not through fighting for the Order and in return awarded by it?
Book "Mazury. Zapomniane południe Prus Wschodnich" by German historician Andreas Kossert. No link, sorry. I checked, it was not medieval but XVI-XVII century Polish language.
Thanks
Bratwurst Boy
19 Jan 2009
History / Prussian History [29]
Do you have a link for that? Just curious....
The Mazurian dialect was the one which was used by Polish linguists to reconstruct clasical medieval Polish language.
Do you have a link for that? Just curious....
Bratwurst Boy
19 Jan 2009
History / Prussian History [29]
Well...it's the actual version of 2009 too! :)
Well that certainly was the official version of Prussian government in the 19th and early XX th century.
Well...it's the actual version of 2009 too! :)
Bratwurst Boy
19 Jan 2009
Law / The Euro Currency in Poland in 2012. Referendum? [23]
isn't it rather "Italy is killing the Euro?"
You folks never get your stuff fixed...
here in ITALY the euro killed us!
isn't it rather "Italy is killing the Euro?"
You folks never get your stuff fixed...
Bratwurst Boy
19 Jan 2009
History / Prussian History [29]
Hmmm....not sure about that... de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masuren
trsl.: A slavic language similar to polish mixed with german....
using Mazurian dialect (which was Polish)
Hmmm....not sure about that... de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masuren
....dem Polnischen ähnliche slawische Sprache, die ab dem 19. Jahrhundert immer mehr zugunsten der deutschen Sprache aufgegeben wurde....
trsl.: A slavic language similar to polish mixed with german....
Bratwurst Boy
19 Jan 2009
Bratwurst Boy
19 Jan 2009
History / Question about Post WW2 Polish Jews etc [42]
I didn't post an image!
And that was my point in this discussion!
Stereotypes aren't modern phenomenons but developed over centuries.
You can dismiss them as you want but there is always a core of truth to them...
As well you must be aware the image you linked too...
I didn't post an image!
It is not a modern phenomenon as you make out.
And that was my point in this discussion!
Stereotypes aren't modern phenomenons but developed over centuries.
You can dismiss them as you want but there is always a core of truth to them...