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The Euro Currency in Poland in 2012. Referendum?


dcchris 8 | 432  
31 Oct 2008 /  #1
The govt is planning on adopting the euro currency in 2012. Is it a good idea? Can they meet the 2 year requirements necessary previous to the adoptions? Do Poles want the euro?

The Polish government says it wants Poland to adopt the euro in 2012, but opposition to the plan - including from the president - may force a referendum.

The pro-EU government of Prime Minister Donald Tusk approved a roadmap for eurozone entry at a meeting on Tuesday.

But opposition Law and Justice (PiS) leader Jaroslaw Kaczynski and his twin brother, President Lech Kaczynski, favour a referendum on the euro.

Poland committed itself to adopting the euro under its 2004 EU entry terms.

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7695487.stm
nader85 - | 2  
31 Oct 2008 /  #2
sori i dont know the answer
loverman2009 - | 2  
1 Nov 2008 /  #3
i think there should be referendum and it's up to people to decide
Seanus 15 | 19,672  
1 Nov 2008 /  #4
I agree with loverman2009, there should be a referendum as currency affects virtually everyone. After all, what are referendums for?
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535  
2 Nov 2008 /  #5
I dont want to say goodbye to our traditional currency forever...
OP dcchris 8 | 432  
2 Nov 2008 /  #6
sure a referendum is the best idea. after all this is democracy right? Things would be more expensive. I was in Holland just after they had changed and they were extremely unhappy about it. Prices got rounded up and salaries rounded down.
ukpolska  
2 Nov 2008 /  #7
I hope there isn't a referendum and it goes through, the earlier the better.
Poland is developing rapidly, the economic rates are established and the Euro might even accelerate this economic growth set at 4% for 2009.
It would reduce currency risks for importers and exporters. It would help to cut costs of risk protection and make trade profits more predictable. Predictable profit stimulates investment.
polishgirltx  
2 Nov 2008 /  #8
I dont want to say goodbye to our traditional currency forever...

would you like to change it every other year...?
lesser 4 | 1,311  
2 Nov 2008 /  #9
after all this is democracy right?

No, this is not democracy and referendum wont be organized.

It would reduce currency risks for importers and exporters.

How big do you think is percent of importers and exporters among Polish society?
southern 74 | 7,074  
2 Nov 2008 /  #10
and referendum wont be organized.

No country had referendum to accept the euro.It was voted by parliament.
lesser 4 | 1,311  
2 Nov 2008 /  #11
I know, European political elites hate the idea of referendum itself. They are hardly willing to organize referendum about anything and even if, they reject the results if incorrect.

Edit: Sorry I think Denmark rejected Euro in referendum.,
southern 74 | 7,074  
2 Nov 2008 /  #12
uropean political elites hate the idea of referendum itself.

Yes,because referendum can lead to bonapartism.Like for example referendum to join EU in Poland gave power to radical Right.
Referendum about immigrants in France can give power to Lepen and in UK to BNP.
lesser 4 | 1,311  
2 Nov 2008 /  #13
Like for example referendum to join EU in Poland gave power to radical Right.

What are you talking about??
southern 74 | 7,074  
2 Nov 2008 /  #14
About parties like the party of holy polish family,how is it called?
lesser 4 | 1,311  
2 Nov 2008 /  #15
Because they won something like 10% of votes in parliamentary elections? Anyway, they are not any radicals.

hmm, So you think, this is OK and Eurocrats still could be called 'democrats'.
southern 74 | 7,074  
2 Nov 2008 /  #16
and Eurocrats still could be called 'democrats'.

It is a democracy of representatives,not a democracy of direct vote.Only in ancient Athens the people decided directly for their cases by their vote without representatives but it was possible because they were very few.Now,you have indirect,not direct democracy.
lesser 4 | 1,311  
2 Nov 2008 /  #17
You should read about current Swiss model of direct democracy.

Anyway, you suggest that eurocrats dislike 'representative democracy' as well. Otherwise they would fully accept 10% of LPR. We know that they started anti-democratic campaign in Austria when Haider led his party to victory. Still "democrats"?
belg  
25 Nov 2008 /  #18
If adopting the euro as a currency is an obligation that was signed while negotiating the EU-accession, why do some of you want a referendum now? After all, you voted yes for accession in 2004... :-)
johnvpr - | 2  
19 Jan 2009 /  #19
hi to all,

here in ITALY the euro killed us!

after few year everything cost double and payceck are the same!!

Hope Poland never gets euro
Wroclaw Boy  
19 Jan 2009 /  #20
here in ITALY the euro killed us!

after few year everything cost double and payceck are the same!!

i would have thought inflation was a bigger problem pre euro in Italy. 2,000,000 Lira gets you a chocolate bar.
johnvpr - | 2  
19 Jan 2009 /  #21
it was 2,000 lira to get a bar ;)

1 euro equals to 1936,27 lira

but a chocolate bar now cost 2 euro ;) (4.000 lira)

if in 2001 your paycheck was lira 2.000.000 you could pay an appartament 700.000/month after few year you have a paycheck of € 1000 and pay an appartament € 800/month
Wroclaw Boy  
19 Jan 2009 /  #22
if in 2001 your paycheck was lira 2.000.000 you could pay an appartament 700.000/month a mont after few year you have a paycheck of € 1000 and pay an appartament € 800/month

Thats an internal domestic problem my friend. Dont think Italys accession to the Euro currency has a direct effect on what costs what in Italy.
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 11,698  
19 Jan 2009 /  #23
here in ITALY the euro killed us!

isn't it rather "Italy is killing the Euro?"
You folks never get your stuff fixed...

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