osiol
23 Apr 2008
Life / The strangest things in Poland [468]
... shouold have been fur too polite.
That should say 'bet' not bed.
fat too
... shouold have been fur too polite.
osiol
23 Apr 2008
Life / The strangest things in Poland [468]
It depends how long you've known PF. I used to use a picture of the real me.
If you can choose not ot be a donkey, you must never have been a donkey.
to think I fell in love with your Poliah countrepart
It depends how long you've known PF. I used to use a picture of the real me.
pleese me not wanna be donkey ani moore
If you can choose not ot be a donkey, you must never have been a donkey.
osiol
23 Apr 2008
Life / The strangest things in Poland [468]
Every time I post you see a picture not of me, but of a Poliah countrepart of mine who lives in Krakow. (We donkeys are all closely related).
No donkeys then ?
Every time I post you see a picture not of me, but of a Poliah countrepart of mine who lives in Krakow. (We donkeys are all closely related).
osiol
23 Apr 2008
Life / The strangest things in Poland [468]
Now it's not full of Poles? I suppose it must be entirely populated by Finns, Koreans or Ewoks.
IT WAS FULL OF POLISH PEOPLE hahahaha :-)
Now it's not full of Poles? I suppose it must be entirely populated by Finns, Koreans or Ewoks.
osiol
23 Apr 2008
UK, Ireland / Are the Poles in England hated? [450]
Most national stereotypes come in pairs. A positive one and a negative one.
All three are usually inaccruate.
Seriously though most Poles still seem to think that Englishman is a synonym of gentleman.
How far away from the truth can you get, eh? ;)
How far away from the truth can you get, eh? ;)
Most national stereotypes come in pairs. A positive one and a negative one.
All three are usually inaccruate.
osiol
23 Apr 2008
UK, Ireland / Are the Poles in England hated? [450]
Or arrive with no idea of what to expect and no qualifications, start a job the very next day, get offered a full-time position, be given some very inexpesive accomodation close to a shop that sells Polish food, a free bicycle, an amplifier and a pair of speakers and despite the noise pollution of a thousand disco polo tunes, still be generally well liked by people. Okay, so that's only one person's experience.
I used to live in a shared house. A Polish chap lived there. He was paid almost well enough for his qualifications, but could still afford a nice car, nights out and food from above the Tesco 'Value' range.
A new colleague of mine is engaged to a Polish girl who doesn't clean toilets for a living. Just another British person who has failed to do what we are all supposed to do and treat Poles as second class citizens. How careless are some people?
Strange how Labour still recieve more than 1% of the votes in England. I accept the point that without Wales and Scotland, England has a much stronger Tory vote. That's why I am grateful to Wales and Scotland for helping to balance the country politically.
when you get to the UK you will SUFFER
Or arrive with no idea of what to expect and no qualifications, start a job the very next day, get offered a full-time position, be given some very inexpesive accomodation close to a shop that sells Polish food, a free bicycle, an amplifier and a pair of speakers and despite the noise pollution of a thousand disco polo tunes, still be generally well liked by people. Okay, so that's only one person's experience.
I used to live in a shared house. A Polish chap lived there. He was paid almost well enough for his qualifications, but could still afford a nice car, nights out and food from above the Tesco 'Value' range.
A new colleague of mine is engaged to a Polish girl who doesn't clean toilets for a living. Just another British person who has failed to do what we are all supposed to do and treat Poles as second class citizens. How careless are some people?
The 99% (mayority) of the English population is just against their own government (LABOUR) now
Strange how Labour still recieve more than 1% of the votes in England. I accept the point that without Wales and Scotland, England has a much stronger Tory vote. That's why I am grateful to Wales and Scotland for helping to balance the country politically.
osiol
23 Apr 2008
Feedback / Translation Threads - where did most of them go? [23]
It says I post more in Introductions than anything else, although I rarely welcome new people these days (how mean is that?).
It says I don't post as much in the Off-Topic 'Dining Room', although I still think I use this far too much.
Worst of all, my favourite translation thread has been destoryed.
TRANSLATIONS FOR TREE AND SHRUB GROWERS.
Thanks to all the helpful people: JustysiaS, plk123, Polishgirltx, Krzysztof, z_darius, RJ_cdn, probably others whose names I can't remember off the top of my head. Your help was amazing. Unfortunately I hadn't finished working through everything you all helped me with, so much of your effort has benn, at least partly, WASTED.
I asked Admin and he said a mod probably deleted it accidentally.
Plenty of utter rubbish remains though.
It says I post more in Introductions than anything else, although I rarely welcome new people these days (how mean is that?).
It says I don't post as much in the Off-Topic 'Dining Room', although I still think I use this far too much.
Worst of all, my favourite translation thread has been destoryed.
TRANSLATIONS FOR TREE AND SHRUB GROWERS.
Thanks to all the helpful people: JustysiaS, plk123, Polishgirltx, Krzysztof, z_darius, RJ_cdn, probably others whose names I can't remember off the top of my head. Your help was amazing. Unfortunately I hadn't finished working through everything you all helped me with, so much of your effort has benn, at least partly, WASTED.
I asked Admin and he said a mod probably deleted it accidentally.
Plenty of utter rubbish remains though.
osiol
22 Apr 2008
Life / The strangest things in Poland [468]
I'll try rubbing my head with a normal towel, then with a paper one. Then I will scientifically study at which point I start to feel confused.
I'll try rubbing my head with a normal towel, then with a paper one. Then I will scientifically study at which point I start to feel confused.
osiol
22 Apr 2008
Life / The strangest things in Poland [468]
Maybe it's their way of proclaiming 'We don't use dirty towels.'
The Fiat 126p was the Polish version, produced in Poland (I think).
Maybe it's their way of proclaiming 'We don't use dirty towels.'
Maluchs(Maluchy?), those little Fiats.
- those are Italian, actually...
- those are Italian, actually...
The Fiat 126p was the Polish version, produced in Poland (I think).
osiol
22 Apr 2008
Life / What do Polish people think of burning the national flags? [58]
Burning a flag says nothing more than a hatred for whatever that flag might represent.
If I burn a star-spangled banner (as they like to call it), it could be because I don't like George Bush, George Clinton or Blueberry pie.
If I burn a Tricolore, it could be because I don't like what they do to snails or frogs.
If I burn the Irish flag, it might be because I've got an Italian flag upside down with the colours done just a bit off.
If I use words or real action, I can say so much more, in a dignified way or not.
Burning a flag says nothing more than a hatred for whatever that flag might represent.
If I burn a star-spangled banner (as they like to call it), it could be because I don't like George Bush, George Clinton or Blueberry pie.
If I burn a Tricolore, it could be because I don't like what they do to snails or frogs.
If I burn the Irish flag, it might be because I've got an Italian flag upside down with the colours done just a bit off.
If I use words or real action, I can say so much more, in a dignified way or not.
osiol
22 Apr 2008
Life / What do Polish people think of burning the national flags? [58]
I hate to be fussy, but Tom Stoppard is a Czech raised and living in Britain.
I've never knowingly burnt a flag, I wouldn't recommend it, but I wouldn't ban it either.
There are better forms of expression.
There's a comical play written by an American called 'Travesties' (Tom Stoppard)
I hate to be fussy, but Tom Stoppard is a Czech raised and living in Britain.
I've never knowingly burnt a flag, I wouldn't recommend it, but I wouldn't ban it either.
There are better forms of expression.
osiol
22 Apr 2008
Love / BLACK GUYS POLISH WOMEN [809]
The one exception in the world being the black fellow who lives over the road from me. He's married to a black woman. Maybe his ego's needs are satisfied by the big white van that he drives.
all black guys, they dream about white woman no matter what kind just to bust their ego
The one exception in the world being the black fellow who lives over the road from me. He's married to a black woman. Maybe his ego's needs are satisfied by the big white van that he drives.
osiol
21 Apr 2008
Language / Correct form of BYĆ. Please help! [96]
When I first did French at school, we were all assigned French names, none of which had anything to do with our real names. They also had a tendency to choose names that sounded as though the gender was wrong. Michel doesn't sound very male to English ears. Neither does Valerie. I was Claude, so I was alright. I'm not sure what my assumed Polish name should be. Something ending in -ek, I'd imagine.
When I first did French at school, we were all assigned French names, none of which had anything to do with our real names. They also had a tendency to choose names that sounded as though the gender was wrong. Michel doesn't sound very male to English ears. Neither does Valerie. I was Claude, so I was alright. I'm not sure what my assumed Polish name should be. Something ending in -ek, I'd imagine.
osiol
21 Apr 2008
History / Is Poland a Southern or Northern European country? [30]
From a marine point of view, that kind of works. Britain is in the Atlantic. Italy is in the Mediterranean, so why shouldn't Poland be in the Baltic? At least it's not so unlucky as all those landlocked countries where the herrings never go.
From a marine point of view, that kind of works. Britain is in the Atlantic. Italy is in the Mediterranean, so why shouldn't Poland be in the Baltic? At least it's not so unlucky as all those landlocked countries where the herrings never go.
osiol
21 Apr 2008
History / Is Poland a Southern or Northern European country? [30]
When the countries of the world are described as northern or southern, Australia is usually put into the north.
When the countries of the world are described as northern or southern, Australia is usually put into the north.
osiol
21 Apr 2008
Language / Correct form of BYĆ. Please help! [96]
Etre was a być to learn. Thanks for your correction.
I was just saying that I wouldn't bother teaching it to Polish people learning English until they had a good grasp of communicating in English. I actually reckon there are plenty of English speakers who don't know their thees, thous and so on.
Anyway, on with the... whatever it was.
vous êtes
Etre was a być to learn. Thanks for your correction.
I was just saying that I wouldn't bother teaching it to Polish people learning English until they had a good grasp of communicating in English. I actually reckon there are plenty of English speakers who don't know their thees, thous and so on.
Anyway, on with the... whatever it was.
osiol
21 Apr 2008
Language / Correct form of BYĆ. Please help! [96]
ty jesteś - thou art
wy jestescie - you are
Old stuff? My book for learning Polish relies on the you/thou distinction to clarify things for the English speaker of the 1950s.
Yes. It is old stuff, and I wouldn't recommend anyone but a keen linguist on learning that kind of English, so just don't do it!
I actually find a little knowledge of other European languages can actually help a little bit, even ones not closely related to Polish, such as French.
ty jesteś - tu est
wy jestescie - vous sons (probably)
wasze - plural yours, sounds like French vous
nasze - ours, sounds like French nous
Sorry. What was the original question?
But again, it's probably better to stick to learning one language properly from the start without deliberately muddling yourself with other languages.
ty jesteś - thou art
wy jestescie - you are
Old stuff? My book for learning Polish relies on the you/thou distinction to clarify things for the English speaker of the 1950s.
Yes. It is old stuff, and I wouldn't recommend anyone but a keen linguist on learning that kind of English, so just don't do it!
I actually find a little knowledge of other European languages can actually help a little bit, even ones not closely related to Polish, such as French.
ty jesteś - tu est
wy jestescie - vous sons (probably)
wasze - plural yours, sounds like French vous
nasze - ours, sounds like French nous
Sorry. What was the original question?
But again, it's probably better to stick to learning one language properly from the start without deliberately muddling yourself with other languages.
osiol
20 Apr 2008
UK, Ireland / My Views Of Poles Working in the UK [169]
You can't walk around with stun-guns when you save the hardest work for yourself.
Believe it or not, hard work is actually more fun than easy work.
What does help is being able to tell the lazy bastard that he is a lazy bastard in his own language.
You can't walk around with stun-guns when you save the hardest work for yourself.
Believe it or not, hard work is actually more fun than easy work.
What does help is being able to tell the lazy bastard that he is a lazy bastard in his own language.
osiol
20 Apr 2008
UK, Ireland / My Views Of Poles Working in the UK [169]
The last two Polish people supplied by the agency we use were lazy and useless. One of them would struggle to pick up one shrub at a time whilst one of the full-time workers (another Pole) was almost strolling leisurely with one in each hand. So we phoned the agency and said we didn't want them back.
So surely the majority of emplyers look at the level and quality of work rather than nationality. If an agency has a worker rejected by enough companies, they will eventually drop them. The agencies we use tend to hire people from Poland, Lithuania and Slovakia these days, although in the past they have been from around the globe, including people born and raised locally.
The last two Polish people supplied by the agency we use were lazy and useless. One of them would struggle to pick up one shrub at a time whilst one of the full-time workers (another Pole) was almost strolling leisurely with one in each hand. So we phoned the agency and said we didn't want them back.
So surely the majority of emplyers look at the level and quality of work rather than nationality. If an agency has a worker rejected by enough companies, they will eventually drop them. The agencies we use tend to hire people from Poland, Lithuania and Slovakia these days, although in the past they have been from around the globe, including people born and raised locally.
osiol
20 Apr 2008
UK, Ireland / My Views Of Poles Working in the UK [169]
It wasn't you who I was talking about here.
I don't "bang on" and have never said anyone should "get out" of the UK. My responses are measured.
It wasn't you who I was talking about here.
osiol
20 Apr 2008
UK, Ireland / My Views Of Poles Working in the UK [169]
Point 1: Rational people don't bang on and on about how Polish people should get out of the UK on a forum about Polish culture.
Point 2: Wanting your country to be well-run with a measured level of immigration is not xenophobic.
Point 3: I had been drinking last night.
That's a pretty cheap shot there.
Point 1: Rational people don't bang on and on about how Polish people should get out of the UK on a forum about Polish culture.
Point 2: Wanting your country to be well-run with a measured level of immigration is not xenophobic.
Point 3: I had been drinking last night.
osiol
20 Apr 2008
History / Is Poland a Southern or Northern European country? [30]
Based on your answers, I would probably say central.
So ? Northern or southern... ?
Based on your answers, I would probably say central.
osiol
20 Apr 2008
History / Is Poland a Southern or Northern European country? [30]
When the question was west or east, I devised a system by which the Greenwich meridian is the point by which the various compass-point derived divisions of Europe should be set. I din't post my map showing north and south because it wasn't relevant to that discussion. Now, three months on, it is time for me to show you all what is north, what is south and what is central. Again, I have used Greenwich as the central point. All countries entirely north of the latitude of Greenwich are northern, all that are entirely south of that line are southern Europe, and countries that span this line are central European countries. Enjoy.
When the question was west or east, I devised a system by which the Greenwich meridian is the point by which the various compass-point derived divisions of Europe should be set. I din't post my map showing north and south because it wasn't relevant to that discussion. Now, three months on, it is time for me to show you all what is north, what is south and what is central. Again, I have used Greenwich as the central point. All countries entirely north of the latitude of Greenwich are northern, all that are entirely south of that line are southern Europe, and countries that span this line are central European countries. Enjoy.
What is Europe anyway?
osiol
20 Apr 2008
History / Is Poland a Southern or Northern European country? [30]
Or is it in Central Europe?
Remember, there is no Eastern Europe and no Western Europe in this discussion.
Questions you may want to ask yourself to help formulate an opinion would be:
Does it snow a lot in winter?
Do Polish people wave their arms around a lot and get all emotional?
Beer and spirits or red wine?
There's no time like the present, or manana?
Or is it in Central Europe?
Remember, there is no Eastern Europe and no Western Europe in this discussion.
Questions you may want to ask yourself to help formulate an opinion would be:
Does it snow a lot in winter?
Do Polish people wave their arms around a lot and get all emotional?
Beer and spirits or red wine?
There's no time like the present, or manana?
osiol
20 Apr 2008
UK, Ireland / UK recession on the way? [58]
What we all need to do is carefully and sensibly take stock of the situation and PANIC!
What we all need to do is carefully and sensibly take stock of the situation and PANIC!
osiol
20 Apr 2008
UK, Ireland / My Views Of Poles Working in the UK [169]
You forgot to include all the warm welcomes from all those lovely Neds.
You forgot to include all the warm welcomes from all those lovely Neds.
osiol
19 Apr 2008
UK, Ireland / My Views Of Poles Working in the UK [169]
I realise trhat, but my own personal experience suggests that England is not very anti-Polish. Is my England too small? Am I in my own little world?
The anti-Polish brigade are the 'There ain't no black in the union jack' brigade, the 'the French are garlic-eating surrender monkeys' brigade, the 'Gerries are all Nazis depsite the fact that we're the real fascists now' brigade. Why give their pathertic views such weight?
And since when has Scotland been so wonderful in comparison?
I am a working class Englishman (albeit one who believes in his own self-education) and in my place of work, there is a Polish chap who seems popular with everyone, as well as a few others from other odd corners of the globe. There is also a new colleague who is engaged to a Polish girl. The other Poles we have had at work have generally been seen in a favourable light, particularly in comparison with some of the other temps we have seen over the last few years.
I was served in one of my favourite old pubs this evening by a Polish lady (I didn't know she was Polish back when I used to drink there about four years ago), and she is liked by the regular drinkers and so oin and so on and so on
and so on and so on...
THE PEOPLE WHO MOAN ABOUT POLES ARE JUST XENOPHOBIC W@NKERS WHO DON'T EVEN LIKE THEMSELVES.
I know you aren't included in the anti-Polish brigade.
I realise trhat, but my own personal experience suggests that England is not very anti-Polish. Is my England too small? Am I in my own little world?
The anti-Polish brigade are the 'There ain't no black in the union jack' brigade, the 'the French are garlic-eating surrender monkeys' brigade, the 'Gerries are all Nazis depsite the fact that we're the real fascists now' brigade. Why give their pathertic views such weight?
And since when has Scotland been so wonderful in comparison?
I am a working class Englishman (albeit one who believes in his own self-education) and in my place of work, there is a Polish chap who seems popular with everyone, as well as a few others from other odd corners of the globe. There is also a new colleague who is engaged to a Polish girl. The other Poles we have had at work have generally been seen in a favourable light, particularly in comparison with some of the other temps we have seen over the last few years.
I was served in one of my favourite old pubs this evening by a Polish lady (I didn't know she was Polish back when I used to drink there about four years ago), and she is liked by the regular drinkers and so oin and so on and so on
and so on and so on...
THE PEOPLE WHO MOAN ABOUT POLES ARE JUST XENOPHOBIC W@NKERS WHO DON'T EVEN LIKE THEMSELVES.
osiol
19 Apr 2008
UK, Ireland / My Views Of Poles Working in the UK [169]
Where are you? What makes you think you can accuse England of being so bad whilst saintly Scotland isn't the hjome of people like noimmigration?
Scotland
England
Where are you? What makes you think you can accuse England of being so bad whilst saintly Scotland isn't the hjome of people like noimmigration?
osiol
19 Apr 2008
UK, Ireland / My Views Of Poles Working in the UK [169]
Or to stay here and spend their money on food, beer, phones and computers. Or to fall in love and get married and stay here for ever. Or to Pay their FAIR SHARE OF TAX before going back home and claiming nothing back in benefits...
Count me as one of that massive 1% that you conveniently take NO FLIPPING NOTICE OF.
The only reason they are coming to the UK is to send money out of it
Or to stay here and spend their money on food, beer, phones and computers. Or to fall in love and get married and stay here for ever. Or to Pay their FAIR SHARE OF TAX before going back home and claiming nothing back in benefits...
99% of the British citizens had enough!!
Count me as one of that massive 1% that you conveniently take NO FLIPPING NOTICE OF.
osiol
19 Apr 2008
Language / Most-used Polish verbs (and every-day sentences) [37]
No!
Or perhaps no to co!
my polish friends always try to trip me up with 'no'
No!
Or perhaps no to co!