tornado2007
6 Sep 2007
tornado2007
6 Sep 2007
Feedback / The issue of [not] writing in Polish on the forums (part 2) [45]
yes totally agree, there have been no's before about elements that could be introduced and usually a 'no' is given if it does not benefit the forum 'overall'
Personally I feel that introducing a section where Polish only is spoken would not benefit this Forum in the slightest, but would, in fact, harm it.
yes totally agree, there have been no's before about elements that could be introduced and usually a 'no' is given if it does not benefit the forum 'overall'
tornado2007
6 Sep 2007
UK, Ireland / PASSPORTS FOR POLISH PEOPLE TO COME TO ENGLAND [103]
to be honest and frank, no, what use are they to the UK, if they are paying for treatment then fair enough let them come in and have their treatment but if not then, sorry your staying in Poland or wherever your from.
i did say its not just the EU i'm talking about its the immigration overall which includes the world.
So a Polish person who had a history of Mental illness any recurring physical ill health or any such related problem should not be let in to the U.K.?
The point I am making is that these topics are quite deep and take a bit of thought.
The point I am making is that these topics are quite deep and take a bit of thought.
to be honest and frank, no, what use are they to the UK, if they are paying for treatment then fair enough let them come in and have their treatment but if not then, sorry your staying in Poland or wherever your from.
I would say its symptomatic of globalisation rather than simply the EU. Outside the EU all developed countries have these problems
i did say its not just the EU i'm talking about its the immigration overall which includes the world.
tornado2007
6 Sep 2007
UK, Ireland / PASSPORTS FOR POLISH PEOPLE TO COME TO ENGLAND [103]
no its pretty simple actually to avoid the effects of time and how long it would take.
If you want to come to the UK you have to apply three months in advance of your arrival, therfore giving the UK immigration services enough time to check your finer details and make a decision on whether you can enter or not :) simple but effective
But criminal checks take so long to do, it would be impossible to do it for everyone entering the UK... I wish it was that simple
no its pretty simple actually to avoid the effects of time and how long it would take.
If you want to come to the UK you have to apply three months in advance of your arrival, therfore giving the UK immigration services enough time to check your finer details and make a decision on whether you can enter or not :) simple but effective
tornado2007
6 Sep 2007
Feedback / The issue of [not] writing in Polish on the forums (part 2) [45]
hang on a second, i thought the whole point of this forum was to enable Polish and other people around the world to join and communicate with each other. Just speaking polish would exclude a lot of people, i think people like the forum the way it is.
having a Polish speaking section, would exclude people which is not what the forum is about. I may be right i may be wrong, i'm sure though Admin will correct me if i'm not :)
hang on a second, i thought the whole point of this forum was to enable Polish and other people around the world to join and communicate with each other. Just speaking polish would exclude a lot of people, i think people like the forum the way it is.
having a Polish speaking section, would exclude people which is not what the forum is about. I may be right i may be wrong, i'm sure though Admin will correct me if i'm not :)
tornado2007
6 Sep 2007
UK, Ireland / PASSPORTS FOR POLISH PEOPLE TO COME TO ENGLAND [103]
i understand your point but in all seriousness i think we know what is serious and what isn't what i'm trying to say is we should not be allowing people who don't benefit or can have a positive affect on the UK in. Its simple and in itself is a way to control immigration, not just inside the EU but worldwide.
Oh no! Like when a copper caught me cycling on a pavement aged 12?
(I was 12, not the pavement - that was at least 14)
(I was 12, not the pavement - that was at least 14)
i understand your point but in all seriousness i think we know what is serious and what isn't what i'm trying to say is we should not be allowing people who don't benefit or can have a positive affect on the UK in. Its simple and in itself is a way to control immigration, not just inside the EU but worldwide.
tornado2007
6 Sep 2007
UK, Ireland / PASSPORTS FOR POLISH PEOPLE TO COME TO ENGLAND [103]
you don't agree, why?? your trying to tell me there is no relation between the EU forming and Crime rates in the country?? or that Immigrants do not commit serious crime in this country??
i've given you plenty of examples and haven't touched on terrorism, wage cuts, over crowding and so on :)
its not the type of disease its the fact we let people with diseases into the country, it does not benefit the UK to have these people or diseases brought into the nation.
I dont agree and I wouldn't say I am blinded.
you don't agree, why?? your trying to tell me there is no relation between the EU forming and Crime rates in the country?? or that Immigrants do not commit serious crime in this country??
How so?
i've given you plenty of examples and haven't touched on terrorism, wage cuts, over crowding and so on :)
So since this is a Polish forum, what diseases are the Polish immigrants taking with them?
its not the type of disease its the fact we let people with diseases into the country, it does not benefit the UK to have these people or diseases brought into the nation.
tornado2007
6 Sep 2007
UK, Ireland / PASSPORTS FOR POLISH PEOPLE TO COME TO ENGLAND [103]
i'm sorry, but i'l make a list shall i
1. Fraud, Since the EU started Britain has had a very large number of Eastern European gangs set up specifically for fraud, credit card, identity, money laundering, counter fit (fake) money.
2. People Trafficking, again the exploitation by Europeans of the girls from such countries and Poland, Romania, Bulgaria etc etc from their own countries and ship them over to work in the prostitution population. usually these girls live sad, horrible lives.
3. Drug Trafficking, although it already goes on in the UK since the EU has formed trafficking of illegal drugs has become easier due to the slack immigration checks etc etc.
4. Sexual crime, Since the EU community has come about, crimes of a sexual nature have risen ten fold, this isn't because all of a sudden the UK has gone sex mad but that some people entering the country are committing these crimes.
5. Diseases & Illness, Although this is a little less public knowledge and is not so big a problem it is still a problem, many diseases are brought to this nation are brought in with those who immigrate here.
I could go on and on, it sounds general but i'm sure you'll agree these things happen and if you don't then your blinded by the PC population :)
I understand and here what you are saying dolly, i'm just making the point that we can afford to be much harsher on who we let enter the United Kingdom. We should not open our doors to all who wish to come into this country. Immigration is not a bad thing at all and i would never say that, however we can get rid of the negative affects with some effort and realisation of situations
i will third that, i think the UK will have identity cards within five or six years and they will be compulsory for both British Nationals and anybody else who is residing in the UK
What immigration problems ?
Sorry but this doesn't explain anything to me.
Sorry but this doesn't explain anything to me.
i'm sorry, but i'l make a list shall i
1. Fraud, Since the EU started Britain has had a very large number of Eastern European gangs set up specifically for fraud, credit card, identity, money laundering, counter fit (fake) money.
2. People Trafficking, again the exploitation by Europeans of the girls from such countries and Poland, Romania, Bulgaria etc etc from their own countries and ship them over to work in the prostitution population. usually these girls live sad, horrible lives.
3. Drug Trafficking, although it already goes on in the UK since the EU has formed trafficking of illegal drugs has become easier due to the slack immigration checks etc etc.
4. Sexual crime, Since the EU community has come about, crimes of a sexual nature have risen ten fold, this isn't because all of a sudden the UK has gone sex mad but that some people entering the country are committing these crimes.
5. Diseases & Illness, Although this is a little less public knowledge and is not so big a problem it is still a problem, many diseases are brought to this nation are brought in with those who immigrate here.
I could go on and on, it sounds general but i'm sure you'll agree these things happen and if you don't then your blinded by the PC population :)
Even saying that you would probably not be offered a position in my place it would still depend on when the assault took place - say you were 16 and got into a teenage fight with another teenager over a girl/boy the powers that are Mightier Than Me would probably over look that, especially if say, ten years had passed with no further convictions.
I understand and here what you are saying dolly, i'm just making the point that we can afford to be much harsher on who we let enter the United Kingdom. We should not open our doors to all who wish to come into this country. Immigration is not a bad thing at all and i would never say that, however we can get rid of the negative affects with some effort and realisation of situations
Quoting: Wroclaw
I think that the UK will end up with them eventually.
I think so too.
I think that the UK will end up with them eventually.
I think so too.
i will third that, i think the UK will have identity cards within five or six years and they will be compulsory for both British Nationals and anybody else who is residing in the UK
tornado2007
6 Sep 2007
UK, Ireland / PASSPORTS FOR POLISH PEOPLE TO COME TO ENGLAND [103]
the only thing i'l say there dolly is that there are so many people wanting to come to this country that we can hand pick who we want, we don't need to take people with assault charges or even anything, look at Australia for example. They take people who will benefit the country fully. I think we should follow their lead and get tough and take those who are going to better the country and not just themselves
I'm thinking more of recruitment. You may get into this country with a minor assault on your record which most places of work wouldn't bother about but which probably result in you not being offered a job in my place.
the only thing i'l say there dolly is that there are so many people wanting to come to this country that we can hand pick who we want, we don't need to take people with assault charges or even anything, look at Australia for example. They take people who will benefit the country fully. I think we should follow their lead and get tough and take those who are going to better the country and not just themselves
tornado2007
6 Sep 2007
UK, Ireland / PASSPORTS FOR POLISH PEOPLE TO COME TO ENGLAND [103]
no i wouldn't stop, in fact this is exactly why we have these immigration problems because people stop. They are scared to offend a few people to protect the wellbeing of a Nation, whats a no to a few thousand people compared to the wellbeing of the Nation. It does not even come close in my eyes.
Its hard and its harsh but its reality
this is exactly why Dolly when people come to this country they should be vetted first. We waste money on things like the dome and so on, that a few million to set up a decent immigration vetting service would seem more than worth it, don't you think??
Please explain further, Hepatitus, Haemophilia, Measles,where would you stop ?
no i wouldn't stop, in fact this is exactly why we have these immigration problems because people stop. They are scared to offend a few people to protect the wellbeing of a Nation, whats a no to a few thousand people compared to the wellbeing of the Nation. It does not even come close in my eyes.
Its hard and its harsh but its reality
Not sure about the process in England/Wales/NI but when someone applies for a job in Scotland and are from another country a Disclosure Scotland check only goes as far back as how long that person has been in the country and reveals nothing about their records in other countries. For this a police check has to be requested from the last country they were in or were born etc. Now, if an ID card were introduced here and everytime you got a criminal conviction it was added to your ID card this would save a lot of time on Disclosure here in Scotland and if people coming from other countries carried ID cards with the same information it would also save a lot of time.
this is exactly why Dolly when people come to this country they should be vetted first. We waste money on things like the dome and so on, that a few million to set up a decent immigration vetting service would seem more than worth it, don't you think??
tornado2007
6 Sep 2007
UK, Ireland / PASSPORTS FOR POLISH PEOPLE TO COME TO ENGLAND [103]
i think this is a good point, although my arms and the arms of my nation are open to EU visitors WE HAVE TO CHECK who is entering our country and for what purpose, do they have a criminal record, do they have HIV or AIDS or any other illness that could conclude in the death of British nationals.
This may seem harsh but this is the reality of the situation. We have enough criminals in our own country and some will say enough people to populate it. We need to as a nation to start getting tougher about immigration as a whole and not be to scared to offend a few Eastern Europeans or Arabs. After all this is the safety and well being of our nation at question here and not about who is coming over for tea or to take a few pictures of big Ben.
If this seems harsh then i'm not going to apolagise because i'm sure everybody would have the same view if you were in the situation of the British people. Of course i invite your views on my comments as always :)
thnx
T
i think this is a good point, although my arms and the arms of my nation are open to EU visitors WE HAVE TO CHECK who is entering our country and for what purpose, do they have a criminal record, do they have HIV or AIDS or any other illness that could conclude in the death of British nationals.
This may seem harsh but this is the reality of the situation. We have enough criminals in our own country and some will say enough people to populate it. We need to as a nation to start getting tougher about immigration as a whole and not be to scared to offend a few Eastern Europeans or Arabs. After all this is the safety and well being of our nation at question here and not about who is coming over for tea or to take a few pictures of big Ben.
If this seems harsh then i'm not going to apolagise because i'm sure everybody would have the same view if you were in the situation of the British people. Of course i invite your views on my comments as always :)
thnx
T
tornado2007
6 Sep 2007
UK, Ireland / PASSPORTS FOR POLISH PEOPLE TO COME TO ENGLAND [103]
no your in the EU mate, fortunate or unfortunate as it may be you don't need anything to come to the UK if your an EU member
no your in the EU mate, fortunate or unfortunate as it may be you don't need anything to come to the UK if your an EU member
tornado2007
6 Sep 2007
Feedback / Deleting a member [23]
lol, fair comment
Being a Polish citizen in the US, I cannot even vote in the US so I should not be tricked into a political game ;).
lol, fair comment
tornado2007
6 Sep 2007
Feedback / Deleting a member [23]
ok each to their own, if you think i'm narrow minded however you obviously haven't seen a lot of what i said, the 'lefty liberals' is just a nickname for the admin :)
Not just for you.
This is a public forum.
I know those whom I've heard complaining about 'liberals' and whom I haven't.
This is a public forum.
I know those whom I've heard complaining about 'liberals' and whom I haven't.
ok each to their own, if you think i'm narrow minded however you obviously haven't seen a lot of what i said, the 'lefty liberals' is just a nickname for the admin :)
tornado2007
6 Sep 2007
Feedback / Deleting a member [23]
hahahaha, i like that, just slipped that bit in for me did you :)
The people who complain about 'Liberals' are narrow-minded people preying on the narrow-mindedness (and greed) of others.
hahahaha, i like that, just slipped that bit in for me did you :)
tornado2007
6 Sep 2007
Feedback / Deleting a member [23]
your going to say they promote free speech, yes maybe they do but only on their terms, like all politicians they are spin doctors and liars :)
your going to say they promote free speech, yes maybe they do but only on their terms, like all politicians they are spin doctors and liars :)
tornado2007
6 Sep 2007
Feedback / Deleting a member [23]
people who don't like other points of view that conflict with theirs or that are extreme in some way
What are you going on about?
people who don't like other points of view that conflict with theirs or that are extreme in some way
tornado2007
6 Sep 2007
Feedback / Deleting a member [23]
on this subject i'm surprised i haven't been banned or warned, most of the time i get slated for giving my own honest outspoken opinion, maybe you admins are not the lefty liberals i thought you were :)
on this subject i'm surprised i haven't been banned or warned, most of the time i get slated for giving my own honest outspoken opinion, maybe you admins are not the lefty liberals i thought you were :)
tornado2007
6 Sep 2007
Love / POLISH SIBLINGS SLEEPING TOGETHER! [172]
i think you need to go into the release room gregory :)
i think you need to go into the release room gregory :)
tornado2007
6 Sep 2007
Love / POLISH SIBLINGS SLEEPING TOGETHER! [172]
no i was thinking of the families from 'hills have eyes' and 'wrong turn' :)
no i was thinking of the families from 'hills have eyes' and 'wrong turn' :)
tornado2007
6 Sep 2007
Love / Sending flowers to my Polish boyfriend [73]
hardly pessimistic, flowers die and they don't last long, that sounds to me like a fact :)
i have always believed in showing my emotions to my partners but not with flowers, i don't think there is anything wrong with that is there??
thats such a pessimistic view Tornado.
hardly pessimistic, flowers die and they don't last long, that sounds to me like a fact :)
i have always believed in showing my emotions to my partners but not with flowers, i don't think there is anything wrong with that is there??
tornado2007
6 Sep 2007
Love / Sending flowers to my Polish boyfriend [73]
Guys,
All this talk about flowers, i would never like to receive flowers as i see them as a sign of a dying relationship. They don't last long!!!
I would rather just have a nice phone call at the end of a day when i'm away :)
Guys,
All this talk about flowers, i would never like to receive flowers as i see them as a sign of a dying relationship. They don't last long!!!
I would rather just have a nice phone call at the end of a day when i'm away :)
tornado2007
6 Sep 2007
Love / POLISH SIBLINGS SLEEPING TOGETHER! [172]
To be honest i think he is thinking of returning home, if that is the case then it is up to you whether you want to go with him or not. To me you would be crazy to go with him to Poland. You don't speak the language, your relationship isn't going great guns at the moment.
Before you do anything you need to ask him those important vital questions. Or maybe you should be asking yourself a few questions, however its not my place to say. All i believe and have to offer i said yesterday. The longer you leave asking him the questions you want the answers to the less likely you will ever have a good relationship with this guy.
Plus just think, if he goes home to Poland the situation with this girl/sister will be like it was when she came to England, apart from the fact it will be constant and not one that disappears .
WHAT I WOULD DO: Leave him while i still could
WHAT YOU DO: is up to you but don't leave it to late either to ask him the questions or leave him. You don't want to commit moving to Poland and then have the Sh*t hit the fan out there, not only would you be punished psychologically but also in the pocket!!!
So please please please make a decision either way soon before its to late and your down Sh*t creek without a paddle.
T
he asked me today if he wanted to go back to poland to live if i could come with him
To be honest i think he is thinking of returning home, if that is the case then it is up to you whether you want to go with him or not. To me you would be crazy to go with him to Poland. You don't speak the language, your relationship isn't going great guns at the moment.
Before you do anything you need to ask him those important vital questions. Or maybe you should be asking yourself a few questions, however its not my place to say. All i believe and have to offer i said yesterday. The longer you leave asking him the questions you want the answers to the less likely you will ever have a good relationship with this guy.
Plus just think, if he goes home to Poland the situation with this girl/sister will be like it was when she came to England, apart from the fact it will be constant and not one that disappears .
WHAT I WOULD DO: Leave him while i still could
WHAT YOU DO: is up to you but don't leave it to late either to ask him the questions or leave him. You don't want to commit moving to Poland and then have the Sh*t hit the fan out there, not only would you be punished psychologically but also in the pocket!!!
So please please please make a decision either way soon before its to late and your down Sh*t creek without a paddle.
T
tornado2007
5 Sep 2007
tornado2007
5 Sep 2007
Love / POLISH SIBLINGS SLEEPING TOGETHER! [172]
you should not sleep with your brother, i never said that :)
ok fair point
Why should i sleep with him then? :D
you should not sleep with your brother, i never said that :)
depends who is in house :D
ok fair point
tornado2007
5 Sep 2007
Love / POLISH SIBLINGS SLEEPING TOGETHER! [172]
dumb and naive, your the one who isn't acting :) what i'm telling you is how it is, regardless of minor details, your relationship has not trust, communication and many other things like respect etc.
Don't abuse me, rather think about what you have to do :) I understand your angry because i'm telling you what the score is, i'm used to it, don't concentrate on my naivety or dumbness concentrate on your situation :)
how dumb and naive about the world can you be.
dumb and naive, your the one who isn't acting :) what i'm telling you is how it is, regardless of minor details, your relationship has not trust, communication and many other things like respect etc.
Don't abuse me, rather think about what you have to do :) I understand your angry because i'm telling you what the score is, i'm used to it, don't concentrate on my naivety or dumbness concentrate on your situation :)
tornado2007
5 Sep 2007
Love / POLISH SIBLINGS SLEEPING TOGETHER! [172]
thats why you've got to look for different signs all round the body wysp, you obviously didn't read the whole post :)
haha, its soo stupid!
U never can be sure if person is lying only cuz of his eyes! I can look drectly into ur eyes and lie without any problems.
My bf for example always is looking somewhere else, doesnt matter hes lying. Rather too lively :)
U never can be sure if person is lying only cuz of his eyes! I can look drectly into ur eyes and lie without any problems.
My bf for example always is looking somewhere else, doesnt matter hes lying. Rather too lively :)
thats why you've got to look for different signs all round the body wysp, you obviously didn't read the whole post :)
tornado2007
5 Sep 2007
Love / POLISH SIBLINGS SLEEPING TOGETHER! [172]
i know i know i was taking it from your post though :)
exactly this relationship sounds like its in rotten state, my dear its simple, you need to ask the questions or leave him, please please please i'm begging you make one of the two decisions. Don't hide away from what you need to do, take action in one way or another, if you leave it just gets worse.
not my words!!!
i know i know i was taking it from your post though :)
Quoting: wondering
he gets angry and tries to leave instead of listening to me.
Sounds like a very healthy relationship!
he gets angry and tries to leave instead of listening to me.
Sounds like a very healthy relationship!
exactly this relationship sounds like its in rotten state, my dear its simple, you need to ask the questions or leave him, please please please i'm begging you make one of the two decisions. Don't hide away from what you need to do, take action in one way or another, if you leave it just gets worse.
tornado2007
5 Sep 2007
Love / POLISH SIBLINGS SLEEPING TOGETHER! [172]
who would you sleep with?? lol if there were free beds in the house?? hahahaha
wondering: in my opinion thats neither sick incesty or... they are not real siblings.
I love my bro veeeery much, but i wont sleep with him in one bed when there are some free beds in house. Weird
I love my bro veeeery much, but i wont sleep with him in one bed when there are some free beds in house. Weird
who would you sleep with?? lol if there were free beds in the house?? hahahaha
tornado2007
5 Sep 2007
Love / POLISH SIBLINGS SLEEPING TOGETHER! [172]
i just think you need to face facts and ask him all the questions, there is no easy way out really, asking others will achieve nothing
i just think you need to face facts and ask him all the questions, there is no easy way out really, asking others will achieve nothing