Life / Deadly Roads - "Are polish roads really THAT dangerous?" [139]


great stuff


be warned that when you have to use it you better use it well. If you fcuk up then your weapon becomes their weapon it's more likely than many people realize.

Funny thing, every time i've pulled over and got out (always unarmed) to oblige in these situations my counterparts always seem not only stay inside but often lock their doors too, or then choose this moment to drive away.

I don't get it, if they were in such a hurry, then why fcuk around in the first place?

The only time one guy finally got out is cause i followed him throughout the city until he did so and he was genuinely scared. What had got him so was probably me pounding on his door at the traffic lights previous, screaming and cursing at him (and yeah i know how to position myself so i don't get the good news with the door).

What got me so angry was his reckless abandon in his giant garbage truck nearly killing me. When we finally did come face to face, the poor guy was just a trembling and stuttering mess. What could I do except try to up the poor guy's confidence and encourage him to use his mirrors better?

I remember screaming at him the first time, and i recall not recognizing my own voice at that time, I was livid.

Life / Deadly Roads - "Are polish roads really THAT dangerous?" [139]


no kidding, i was compelled one time to inform some wanna be thug that, in fact, the speed limit in a car park is not the same as on a street.


I think i fit the bill there in some respects, for example when the speed limit posted is 80 yet no one actually drives 80 or below, i feel compelled to go with the speed of traffic cause if i didn't then i presume this would infuriate other impatient drivers which would then cause them to do something stupid and put others' lives at risk.

Here's an example of an impatient Polish driver:
I was turning from a small road (50km/hr) onto a main road (110)
The merging area was rather short and the point of merger was downhill.
Now, I could have tried to merge but I never would have got up to speed within the confines of the merging lane, so i'd either have to stop in the merge lane or try and force a driver over.

There was too much traffic on a 5pm friday to go about it that way so i stopped to size up the traffic.

Rule 1 in driving is that you make a judgment before you initiation, so just as i'm taking an extra look, the guy driving the opel behind me uses his horn-"hooonk."

Ok, no big deal but just as I started to go he lays on the horn a second time.
So I slammed on the breaks and just waited. And waited. And waited. I started counting at some point and got up to 30-something, so i estimate he laid on his horn for a good minute.

I refused to proceed until he got the hint.

What does the moron in the old Opel try to do then?
Race me of course.
It should have been clear to him at the outset which car is faster and given the large bus in front of him, it should have been even more abundantly clear there was no point in racing.

Gee any ideas what he'd have done had he actually got ahead of me?

Life / Deadly Roads - "Are polish roads really THAT dangerous?" [139]


you sir have filled up this thread with the new ultra refined clean burning "correct."
Everything is a p*ssing contest on the roads here and it seems half of the driving population here is always trying to "teach a lesson" to the other half.

USA, Canada / MARTIAL LAW IN THE US AND POSTPONED PRESIDENT ELECTIONS? [33]


sorry you're not a teacher, just a masquerading nincompoop who likes to imagine he's useful when the contrary is for all to readily behold. It's called a "typo" you twit, a good teacher researches their subject first and with miranda, it's clear you failed in doing that.

Don't worry miranda, I got yer back!
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and technically although not in the quoted context, "a gossip" is perfectly acceptable as a noun

Life / How to Survive on a Minimum Wage in Poland? [45]


that sir, was you owning the "correct" like a dog owns a bone, like a master owns a slave- very well said.

News / Should rape carry a life sentence in Poland? [146]


where did you get impression? I merely included those "specialists" you spoke of within my definition of "society" from the outset, sorry you're having trouble with that.


well then who's wishes ought the state fulfill, let me guess, specialists, right?


and also society's problem if change doesn't occur.


isn't your next statement an example of interfering? i'm not sure what to interpret from you as "interference" so this is why i ask...


did i write "who's?" Yikes. i wish i could edit that one for spelling and unnecessary rudeness, well take this as an apology lesser there was no reason for me to respond in the surly manner i did.

News / Should rape carry a life sentence in Poland? [146]


no didn't miss your point because i'm quite sure it doesn't exist on this note. I'll reiterate my question, are those specialists a part of society or not? if they are then my original question remains valid without need of interpretation.


Great, i'm glad you've come to a conclusion, now why is it called the justice system?


well you felt competent enough to make the statement that begged the question so i'm wondering if you were competent enough then...


so, then, according to you, if a convicted criminal receives a punishment, then after that punishment is served in whatever way, the main lesson they can then take from it all is that it's best not to get caught should they endeavor to commit another crime? Do you see how that approach might really not benefit society in the long run?

News / Should rape carry a life sentence in Poland? [146]

I'm not sure it's supposed to be a deterrent but more society's way of saying "you've failed at life to the point that we have to kill cause it'll be a better place without you" i mean not you but them, y'know?

edit, this is for mask98

News / Dealing with constant insults against Polish [323]

^no you didn't^ that story is complete b.s. Jesus h. christ at least make it a believable lie, not some cereal box version of the Hussar Kid.


...complete b.s.

News / Should rape carry a life sentence in Poland? [146]

i may be really thick right now but do our arguments mirror eachother cause it's getting really hard to read right now. i think i ate 1 donut and 6 perogi all day then had training and an almost depleted bottle of wine.

but i can't remember what this thread is about so i figure this post is gonna get removed. And good riddance!

edited cause i don't hate a donut, i ate a donut:)

News / Should rape carry a life sentence in Poland? [146]


I see, so this education system doesn't affect the victim or society but those occupying the highest posts are best entrusted to decide what a rapist receive as "punishment." ok, that's your opinion (and a mighty conflicting one if i've interpreted you correctly) but that's not the question i posed.

The question was which of the two positions from my proposition would be more fair. One more thing regarding your reply, "the highest posts-" exactly what function does one who has "the highest post" fulfill and how does that seperate them from society?


I am having some trouble with your definition cause according to your defiinition of a punishment, after one fulfills a punishment, it would only have been to confirm the existence of the punishment. What you've written seems to be a lot like saying laws exist to inform us that they exist- what's the point of them?

So i ask you again, what's the point of a punishment, i mean, after it's been given and served or performed or inflicted or whatever, what's the point in it?

on a side note, i'm quite intoxicated right now so although i think my half drunk logic ought to further this i may be only under that assumption because quite a bit of my brain is being rendered docile and mute.

what role am i playing in your stead S-nus? devil's advocate or forum drunk?

News / Should rape carry a life sentence in Poland? [146]


Hey, there ya go, that's pretty good. here's an e-high five. *high fives lesser*
You've convinced me with that argument but the devil's advocate in me has to ask the following:
Which is more fair: a rape victim be free to choose the punishment or society? why?


what's the point of a punishment?

News / Adult movie producers looking for 'actresses' in Poland or just a weirdo? [120]


if you are serious then rethink your response and tell me what you've come up with, if not then please grow up. Answer me not with a question but one of the two options provided.

That is all.

News / Should rape carry a life sentence in Poland? [146]


and it should if that were the case. But you see good sir, you interjected the word "relish" and with it you projected an emotional aspect that simply isn't there on my part. It seems as though you read that into my original statement but that is your prejudice and perspective talking, not mine.


And on that I am in complete agreement with you sir, i hope that cleared it up for you.
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May I ask what, in your opinion, is the point of imprisonment, not just for rapists but in general?

News / Should rape carry a life sentence in Poland? [146]

Daisy c'mon now, mask98 has been pretty objective thus far and you're attacking him for saying what he's seen.


you can't say what it's like for anyone else to be raped but yourself (and i truly hope that has never happened to you nor will it ever), if you haven't been a victim of it then don't go trying to share in the victimhood.

So he's saying that from those he's met, the men who've been raped (by men) seem to have come across as less "traumatized" and handling it better than the women he's met who've also been raped by men.

I don't know why you can't seem to simply acknowledge his observations. So you've both seen different things, you don't see him trying to tell you that you "don't get it," do you?

There could be reasons why what he's observed might be true but unless you acknowledge anything contrary to your own experience it just remains a p!ssing contest.


I agree with you and i don't at the same time. I suppose scars are nothing if the mind chooses not to acknowledge them but i think the worse the physical scar, the more likely it is to serve as a reminder of the cause and leave a psychological imprint. If we weren't connected so much to the physical then rape wouldn't leave a psychological imprint at all, would it? But apparently it does, apparently due to a physicall invasion. What i mean to say is that on this world, i am inclined to believe the two are connected.


i missed that. No dear fellow none was intended, why do you ask?

News / Should rape carry a life sentence in Poland? [146]


i have a few "associates" that can attest to Polish prisons being absolutely shite, men lose lots of weight in Polish prisons unless someone from the outside keeps them very well fed.

But don't worry generally only blue collar criminals go there, white collar criminals (businessmen and politicians) stay free so it's all fair, isn't it?

any other questions?

while the topic of capital punishment is being thrown around i have to say i'm more than a little appauled at the sick fantasies people are throwing around here. Unless you've been raped you probably ought not to try and pretend you've suffered such a thing.

Now I fully support capital punishment but here's how it should be done simpletons (yes i mean you guys with the sick fetishes).
You don't waste bullets, or gas, heat, or resources of any kind on them, if someone has been such a bane on society that the best we as a people can do is kill them then there's no sense in wasting resources on one unfit to live.

So what do we do then? You have them march up a closed of section of cliff aaaaalllll the way to the top, then they either jump or are made to jump and let gravity do its' work. No muss, no fuss, then get back to workin on society.

I know, i know, i even frighten myself sometimes.

News / Should rape carry a life sentence in Poland? [146]


(sigh) i guess we'll never know unless it's tried though, will we? But yeah i can see how things could end up consuming the victim and well, that's not a good thing, is it?

News / Adult movie producers looking for 'actresses' in Poland or just a weirdo? [120]

then i guess there's nothing for me to add then, is there?

News / Should rape carry a life sentence in Poland? [146]


not really a fair or accurate comparison eating sh!t is very very likely to cause serious illness whereas barring any communicable viruses, anal sex doesn't.

But, what about those of uuuuh, i mean guys that, to use your vernacular, stick their dicks up women's asses are they "sick" now?

Julius Ceasar swung both ways as did a very large percentage of men from Classical times. Maybe women just got better looking over time so it went out of fashion.

Look G, why you so concerned what others do in their private lives it's doubtful it'll really affect the world as a whole nor you personally.

Regarding the orginal question, if found quilty and if the victim is alive then the victim should be free to choose the punishment for the perpetrator.

News / Adult movie producers looking for 'actresses' in Poland or just a weirdo? [120]

I hear ya p19 for reasons similar to what you mentioned i could and can never really understand the allure of strip clubs.

Oh boy whoopdee do, a bunch of guys getting together to get all randy with no likely chance of progressing things with the object of their affection and all together under the same roof....It always struck me as pointless, I'd sooner go grocery shopping, it was always a pleasent surprise how often women waaaay out of my league would strike up conversation in the produce section...:)

News / What is the future of Catholic church in Poland. [154]


how's that u.s. economy doing?
"can" is the operative word your using but it can also be used to line the pockets of the rich and can be used to fuel massive government waste programs that, you guessed it, get the rich richer. Not too mention the strong back of the middle class can be relied on too often when the chips are down until the middle class effectively becomes one large lower class. Funny how that's when religion reallly picks up again, ain't it?

Hey Seanus, you watch this yet?

News / What is the future of Catholic church in Poland. [154]


No one's asking you to explain the convenience of a car. But it might be that accessible convenience, that is quite often above what the average person drives, which does serve as a barrier to truly understanding his parishioners.

So, you still haven't made a point to support your earlier claim. I challenge you to tell me how a priest driving instead of taking the bus allows him to understand the problems of our generation better and thus do his "job" any better.


Simple conclusion if you've misread and or misinterpreted everything i've written-congrats, i have to admit i am mildly annoyed with you for this. But perhaps english isn't your first language and i'm just being a jerk, if so, i apologize.

*sigh* I didn't advocate they live in poverty did I? No I didn't.
I merely pointed out that despite the teachings of their leader which is in effect their law, the clergy lives in comparative wealth to the rest of the society here in Poland. Now that's hardly consistent with the gospels is it?

Maybe in Romans, Numbers, Corinthians, Book of Revelations can you show me something, somewhere in the new testament where it says "yeah priests and clergy are exempt from the 'happy are those who are poor for they shall inherit the kingdom of heaven'" or something to that effect? Or where it says priests don't have to render unto ceasar what is his?

Can you do that? no you can't because the lifestyle the priests and bishops generally enjoy here and have been enjoying are entirely inconsistent with the teachings of their god, their figure head and that certainly casts doubt on a great deal of their sincerity and integrity doesn't it?

and that's been my point, not that they should be poor, not that they should reject technology simply that they should reject such wealth stop asking for money and try to live consistently with the example of jesus, not just when it's convenient. until then, i say they're a bunch of crooks.


look up non sequitor

News / What is the future of Catholic church in Poland. [154]


Boy oh boy i can always count on lesser to try his hand at an online duel with me.
No i don't consider it a virtue but you have to look at my original post a little more closely. It's the fact that (correct me if i'm wrong) the new testament proclaims poverty to be a virtue yet the church doesn't walk that line, that's where my criticism lays.

a new car vs. the bus is an example of one being "rich" especially if you consider that this was even the case 10 years ago when having a car was much more of a status symbol then than now.


Where did i write that I encouraged them to take a step back in time and reject technology?
I didn't, you assumed and projected your way to this conclusion and neither I nor Seanus suggested as much.

Nonetheless I question your position. I doubt wheter a priest having an iphone or driving instead of taking public transport (you know like a lot in the country do) somehow allows them to understand people's problems much more than if the opposite were true. Human nature is rather timeless and whatever religion seeks to cure or control isn't rooted in modern machinery.

Look lesser, I don't know if you've purposely been trying to target me but this is getting rather repetitious for me and fruitless for you (if your goal has been to prove a point). Hey if you catch me on something inconsistent then hats off to you and a big "thanks" for helping me see the light but you've yet to do so and generally just muddle things up so at least be more critical of what you write than what i do.


well then it must be an unquestionable virtue?

Life / AMERICAN-STYLE SLOB CHIC IN POLAND? [24]


soooooo not only an American thing buddy, i'd say Poles are naturally VERY LOUD talkers


ohhh yeah that one is completely American, if it wasn't for the yanks all the louts on the buses and trams would be "proszę" this and "proszę" that...

mr. sar meet mr. casim

News / What is the future of Catholic church in Poland. [154]

Thanks Seanus, that's a really good analogy i hadn't considered (sucks cause i do like the message of his song).

Hey are you and your girl getting married? I ask cause right now we're at that stage and well i think you know where i stand on the church so we're at a crossroads. Wonderin if anyone's in a similar situation and has any helpful hints...

Anyhow, back to what you wrote,


-i honestly think that it's easier for a lot of people to do exactly that seanus, than, do any real reflection on what their moral compass is or isn't and compare that compass to their actions. It's just easier for some (not all) to hand over some cash, repeat some words and get dressed up for "god."

Obviously the catholic church here served as a unifying vehicle during communism so you can't speak the truth too loudly as sentiment drowns out logic every time. In the end this bears truth that most need to be lead and in tough times the catholic church served as the leader.

In all honesty i'm not exactly thrilled with the way poles have turned to consumerism to replace piety. I'm not suggesting it has to be one or the other but here it seems those 2 extremes are the average expressions.

News / What is the future of Catholic church in Poland. [154]

i'm not so sure about this "spiritual" hat people are wearing these days (i used that line a good 10-15 years ago on girls at highschool) what the heck does being spiritual mean in lieu of being religious?

What irks me about the RC faith here is that you have these priests who are supposed to be messengers of god, doing what the apostles were supposed to have been doing, preaching the word of jesus who they view as god and how are they living? Well they certainly haven't taken any vows of poverty.

I don't even believe in the guy but according to the new testament he and his apostles rejected riches in favour of "the kingdom of god" or whatever, yet these saintly folk are driving nice new cars and living in duże domy and have no problem asking for money after every "amen."

It doesn't affect me either way but certainly anybody should be able to see the hypocrisy.

Love / Are all Polish women the same..... [81]

brian1411 has stereotyped the correct. marriage, no marriage, marriage, no marriage,rinse, wash, repeat, live here, live there, rinse, wash, rep,argh!

News / Adult movie producers looking for 'actresses' in Poland or just a weirdo? [120]


lol I don't know if I'm missing double sarcasm here but I'm pretty sure dek was not serious and "timbuktu" imo.

C'mon people let's get our colloquialisms and spelling up to snuff, I've been lazy too but c'mon we're getting out of hand here.

News / Adult movie producers looking for 'actresses' in Poland or just a weirdo? [120]

^^probably they target girls who work in the service industry as they tend to be more outgoing and at the same time are easy access to when working. There is also the assumption, rightly or wrongly, that girls in the service industry don't make that much so them trying to target girls without as much wherewithall as others also leads me to the conclusion that they in fact are sleazeballs.

One mistake they would make here is using a north american value system when assessing people here based on things like makeup, hair and clothes. Some of the things no one thinks anything of here would get a girl labelled "tramp" the second she left the door in a mid west town.

fbi in poland? that's scary stuff, imagine having the bundespolizei setting up shop in your backyard. I don't support the idea of a foreign police force operating under their rules while abroad, not at all but certainly support co-operation and assistance. 2 cents into the well

News / Adult movie producers looking for 'actresses' in Poland or just a weirdo? [120]


riiiiight, some american comes to poland to do what? and goes about it by pressuring girls at work and you "blah blah blah, don't judge cause blah blah."

It isn't judging when you call it for what it is. buddy i'm as liberal as the next guy but you're really not keeping this in context.


So the girl is weak cause she cried? well that must make every woman weak in your books. Get those lil hamsters runnin on the wheel to make the big wheel go faster and think about it:

1Weird foreigner invades Polish woman's work area with slimeball tactics and proposition. Keep in mind she may very well have different values than him on this...

2Said woman being emotional about it later with her boyfriend probably means she was more than a little offended or insulted or threatened.

3Some people (women) cry when they feel threatened, it's really not that hard to comprehend.

This may come as a surprise to you as it seems you have precious little experience with actually talking to or listening to women but it's quite easy for us guys to intimidate them. They can get spooked by the wrong guy and again, this may be a surprise to you as you probably don't have much experience with women, but a lot of them are more given to tears than guys are. It doesn't make a person weak for crying, some people just cry easier than others.

My call on it is this, doing that kind o thing is f'n with the bull, it is playin with fire, it is a gamble so a guy like that should really get the horns, get burnt or lose it all so he can ask himself if what he's doin is really what he's meant to be doin on this planet. Maybe yes, maybe not but a good asskicking would do wonders to see how many of these slimeballs really want to stay out there on the pitch.