1jola
14 Oct 2009
News / The Lisbon Treaty and land reperations [74]
You have broken the rules we have agreed on. Good luck.
You have broken the rules we have agreed on. Good luck.
1jola
14 Oct 2009
1jola
14 Oct 2009
News / The Lisbon Treaty and land reperations [74]
Was your dad one of them? Many? I doubt it.
Gen. Anders obviously didn't agree that they were traitors, as many of his re-enforcements at Monte Cassino came from Poles previoulsy conscripted into the Werhmacht.
Was your dad one of them? Many? I doubt it.
1jola
14 Oct 2009
News / The Lisbon Treaty and land reperations [74]
Let's not be legalistic. It was clear cut back then; you were either a Pole and you fought for Poland, or you were a piece shite and fought for the other side. Full stop.
Let's not be legalistic. It was clear cut back then; you were either a Pole and you fought for Poland, or you were a piece shite and fought for the other side. Full stop.
1jola
14 Oct 2009
News / The Lisbon Treaty and land reperations [74]
You should stay away from Nazi websites, BB.
Polish citizens fighting for Nazi Germany were traitors. Full stop.
You should stay away from Nazi websites, BB.
And I would be careful to call anybody and his grandmom a traitor just because he didn't want to fight for Poland...
Polish citizens fighting for Nazi Germany were traitors. Full stop.
1jola
14 Oct 2009
News / The Lisbon Treaty and land reperations [74]
You come from a family of traitors because your grandpa joined the Werhmacht. Than was treason. I'm sure he was a cook, though, and didn't kill any fellow countrumen.
With 22 posts you might qualify as a troll, sir.
Very disapointing, BB. You quoting Goebbels is beneath you.
Dariusz, save your money and buy property in Poland, and believe me, 100 hectares is not worth millions.
(it is snowing in Warsaw now)
I am, and feel, as much Polish as you do. Yes, I come from a part of Poland that has a German/Polish history, so automatically I come from a family of traitors?
You come from a family of traitors because your grandpa joined the Werhmacht. Than was treason. I'm sure he was a cook, though, and didn't kill any fellow countrumen.
I see some trolls came out here on this thread.
With 22 posts you might qualify as a troll, sir.
That's what happened to Bromberg...
Very disapointing, BB. You quoting Goebbels is beneath you.
Dariusz, save your money and buy property in Poland, and believe me, 100 hectares is not worth millions.
(it is snowing in Warsaw now)
1jola
13 Oct 2009
News / The Lisbon Treaty and land reperations [74]
Let's see. Dariusz wants me, the Polish taxpayer and a descendant of Poles who defended this country against traitors like his grandfather, to pay him now for property lost during the invasion and communist occupation. Sick, man. I hope your lawyer sucks you dry while you dream of riches at the expense of today's generation.
Let's see. Dariusz wants me, the Polish taxpayer and a descendant of Poles who defended this country against traitors like his grandfather, to pay him now for property lost during the invasion and communist occupation. Sick, man. I hope your lawyer sucks you dry while you dream of riches at the expense of today's generation.
1jola
12 Oct 2009
News / The Lisbon Treaty and land reperations [74]
In think you will have to put in more than 5 cents in, or your lawyer will become dismissive. Good luck in your new hobby.
and he was not dismissive when he heard what we had to tell him.
Anyone here want to put their 5 cents in....I need more information! :-)
In think you will have to put in more than 5 cents in, or your lawyer will become dismissive. Good luck in your new hobby.
1jola
3 Sep 2009
1jola
2 Sep 2009
History / Slavic mythology [44]
I'm a Polak and have not been brainwashed by CNN. Serbs are good people and a terrible injustice was done to the them.
I'm a Polak and have not been brainwashed by CNN. Serbs are good people and a terrible injustice was done to the them.
1jola
2 Sep 2009
1jola
31 Aug 2009
History / RUSSIAN TV ACCUSES POLAND OF BEING HITLER ALLY [30]
Have Polish papers been printing government dictated, blatant lies about Russia, Sasha? I think not.
Reverting to Soviet propaganda makes Russia look like a desperate failed democracy, farther and farther away from the western world. They have plenty of useful idiots in the west though.
Russian Government) seem to start using your own weapon against you (the Polish media in its turn has never stopped doing antirussian injections into folk's body).
Have Polish papers been printing government dictated, blatant lies about Russia, Sasha? I think not.
Reverting to Soviet propaganda makes Russia look like a desperate failed democracy, farther and farther away from the western world. They have plenty of useful idiots in the west though.
That's all merely sad...
1jola
30 Aug 2009
History / US snubs Poland over WW II ceremony? [75]
What is it actually that you are complaing about? Oh, I see, that some people like to complain.
You have actually demonstrated something? Maybe shopping would relieve your anxiety.
It doesn't matter what year it is, or who is Prez, they will find something to complain about.
What is it actually that you are complaing about? Oh, I see, that some people like to complain.
How silly of me to try to reframe a situation to illustrate how unfair the accusation!
You have actually demonstrated something? Maybe shopping would relieve your anxiety.
1jola
30 Aug 2009
History / US snubs Poland over WW II ceremony? [75]
Obama can swim?
Here is Omena, one of the weather castors on Polish TV, very popular:
In fact, she is Polish.
Poland can't even have a black man in a advertisement, so why the hell should Obama cross the pond for them?
Obama can swim?
Here is Omena, one of the weather castors on Polish TV, very popular:
In fact, she is Polish.
1jola
30 Aug 2009
History / US snubs Poland over WW II ceremony? [75]
Your chances in a future career in diplomacy are slim to none.
10 million Polish-Americans in the USA tend to remember things like this when it's election time.
It was the Poles who first took on the Nazi Germany, so the commemoration at Westerplatte(look it up) has significance to everyone but...the present American government.
the US doesn't have as much reason to attend....
Your chances in a future career in diplomacy are slim to none.
10 million Polish-Americans in the USA tend to remember things like this when it's election time.
Anyway.....I don't think anyone should be commemorating the START of a war.
It was the Poles who first took on the Nazi Germany, so the commemoration at Westerplatte(look it up) has significance to everyone but...the present American government.
1jola
30 Aug 2009
History / US snubs Poland over WW II ceremony? [75]
Your Secretary of State found the time to go to the New York Gay Pride Parade this year to celebrate the diversity of your country. Hey, we all set priorities in life.
Your Secretary of State found the time to go to the New York Gay Pride Parade this year to celebrate the diversity of your country. Hey, we all set priorities in life.
1jola
28 Aug 2009
History / INKA 1946 - a tragic story of a 17 year old patriot executed by communist traitors in 1946 Poland [16]
Why don't we just sing KUMBAYA together. As often, you're a disappointment. Have a good weekend.
I'd prefer to see a SA-style truth and reconciliation commission at which people could publicly own up to their crimes in exchange for immunity.
Why don't we just sing KUMBAYA together. As often, you're a disappointment. Have a good weekend.
1jola
28 Aug 2009
History / INKA 1946 - a tragic story of a 17 year old patriot executed by communist traitors in 1946 Poland [16]
He came from a polonized Russian family.
This is a poor argument. It's like saying we should not punish any crime because it was obviously done in the past, so let's not dwell on it, let's move on. Besides, some of the communist crimes(murders of priests, young activists) were not so long ago. None punished, but there are plenty of ex-communists and their children defending them.
What is disturbing is that many of these people were/are collecting hefty pensions while their victims had their health ruined or were outright executed and dumped in unmarked graves.
I can't find at the moment a TV interview with a IPN historian who talks about one of the Stalinist prosecutors living in Israel who asked for Polish government to confirm in writing his years as a prosecutor for his Isreali pension, and he was very involved in "court murder."
Or do you mean that he was Russian because he was born in what was then Russia
He came from a polonized Russian family.
But frankly, Poland has got more than enough to be getting on with, isn't the future more important than settling scores from generations ago?
This is a poor argument. It's like saying we should not punish any crime because it was obviously done in the past, so let's not dwell on it, let's move on. Besides, some of the communist crimes(murders of priests, young activists) were not so long ago. None punished, but there are plenty of ex-communists and their children defending them.
What is disturbing is that many of these people were/are collecting hefty pensions while their victims had their health ruined or were outright executed and dumped in unmarked graves.
I can't find at the moment a TV interview with a IPN historian who talks about one of the Stalinist prosecutors living in Israel who asked for Polish government to confirm in writing his years as a prosecutor for his Isreali pension, and he was very involved in "court murder."
1jola
28 Aug 2009
News / Most important invention made in Poland [53]
No, no, the Poles invented the Enigma and then cracked the code. We are very clever people.
No, no, the Poles invented the Enigma and then cracked the code. We are very clever people.
1jola
28 Aug 2009
History / INKA 1946 - a tragic story of a 17 year old patriot executed by communist traitors in 1946 Poland [16]
Anrdejew was Russian. Graff was Jewish and Auscaler too-emmigrated to Israel in 57.
Andrejew's Criminal Code was used in Poland until...1998.
No one is calling for executing these beasts, the alive ones, but clearly the crime of multiple murder has gone unpunished. You do see the difference between a prosecutor asking for a death penalty on completely made up charges and a judge rubber stamping it, and the prosecutor's tailor. Or do you? See your post above.
Igor Andrejew was Jewish? Alicja Graff? Gustaw Auscaler?
Anrdejew was Russian. Graff was Jewish and Auscaler too-emmigrated to Israel in 57.
Andrejew's Criminal Code was used in Poland until...1998.
No one is calling for executing these beasts, the alive ones, but clearly the crime of multiple murder has gone unpunished. You do see the difference between a prosecutor asking for a death penalty on completely made up charges and a judge rubber stamping it, and the prosecutor's tailor. Or do you? See your post above.
1jola
28 Aug 2009
History / INKA 1946 - a tragic story of a 17 year old patriot executed by communist traitors in 1946 Poland [16]
Well, well. It is you who walked into your own trap. Perhaps it's not fair since I have a lot more information available to me on Polish matters, not that I am a better reasercher than you, but simply because I read Polish.
Even the wiki entry on Fieldorf in English fails to mention the names involved. Typical. If you listen to Fieldorf's daughter, and she should know very well who was involved in her father's murder, you will see that all were Jews. She has stated that on public TV and it is known.
Górewska, Gurewska, Sand(all one person) was Jewish and similarly to Wolińska screamed anti-semitism(sic!). Look it up. There are articles in the Polish press.
No tin foil hat needed here.
Justice is not in anybody's interest???
At the scaffold, perhaps?
The understanding of the Polish justice system is difficult for non-Poles. I'll give you a hint: the system has not been reformed therefore there no one can be guilty of any communist crimes.
You see Jews everywhere! Perhaps your tinfoil hat is in need of fine-tuning?
Well, well. It is you who walked into your own trap. Perhaps it's not fair since I have a lot more information available to me on Polish matters, not that I am a better reasercher than you, but simply because I read Polish.
Even the wiki entry on Fieldorf in English fails to mention the names involved. Typical. If you listen to Fieldorf's daughter, and she should know very well who was involved in her father's murder, you will see that all were Jews. She has stated that on public TV and it is known.
Górewska, Gurewska, Sand(all one person) was Jewish and similarly to Wolińska screamed anti-semitism(sic!). Look it up. There are articles in the Polish press.
No tin foil hat needed here.
Because it is not actually in anybody's interest that anybody is convicted.
Justice is not in anybody's interest???
If we go after the judges, we would need to go after their accomplices too and then where do we stop?
At the scaffold, perhaps?
The understanding of the Polish justice system is difficult for non-Poles. I'll give you a hint: the system has not been reformed therefore there no one can be guilty of any communist crimes.
1jola
28 Aug 2009
History / INKA 1946 - a tragic story of a 17 year old patriot executed by communist traitors in 1946 Poland [16]
They were both Jewish, Harry.
All eight involved in Fieldorf's trial were Jewish as well.
You finally found one Pole out of a dozen.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not favoring the Poles in this case. All were guilty of what we term 'court murder.' After living so many years here, you should have some understanding why no one has ever been convicted. I'd like to hear your opinion on that.
As to the Jewish/Jew nuance, Jews themselves would not agree with you, except when they try to distance themselves from crimes committed. How can they be victims and oppressors.
Let a Jew, or if you like, a Jewish person explain it to you:
ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html
Instead, why don't you find the film with English subtitles so everyone can watch it.
Compare and contrast Helena Wolińska-Brus with Maria Gurowska.
They were both Jewish, Harry.
contrast Wolińska-Brus with any of the other participants in the Fieldorf murder who currently live in Poland (i.e. the ones who aren't Jewish).
All eight involved in Fieldorf's trial were Jewish as well.
Also compare and contrast Salomon Morel and Czesław Gęborski.
You finally found one Pole out of a dozen.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not favoring the Poles in this case. All were guilty of what we term 'court murder.' After living so many years here, you should have some understanding why no one has ever been convicted. I'd like to hear your opinion on that.
As to the Jewish/Jew nuance, Jews themselves would not agree with you, except when they try to distance themselves from crimes committed. How can they be victims and oppressors.
Let a Jew, or if you like, a Jewish person explain it to you:
The Jews active in official communist terror apparatuses (In the Soviet Union and abroad) and who at times led them, did not do this, obviously, as Jews, but rather, as Stalinists, communists, and "Soviet people." Therefore, we find it easy to ignore their origin and "play dumb": What do we have to do with them? But let's not forget them. My own view is different. I find it unacceptable that a person will be considered a member of the Jewish people when he does great things, but not considered part of our people when he does amazingly despicable things.
Even if we deny it, we cannot escape the Jewishness of "our hangmen," who served the Red Terror with loyalty and dedication from its establishment. After all, others will always remind us of their origin.
Even if we deny it, we cannot escape the Jewishness of "our hangmen," who served the Red Terror with loyalty and dedication from its establishment. After all, others will always remind us of their origin.
ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html
Instead, why don't you find the film with English subtitles so everyone can watch it.
1jola
27 Aug 2009
News / Jews use American congress to pressure Polish government to PAY [63]
So you must think that only Jews owned property in Warsaw. It's about your speed.
What a joke! You obviously have not been to London or Paris.
I was born in Śródmieście. Don't make me laugh. Just pay your rent and leave property owners alone. I guess we and all our friends were the non-communist elite.
I didn't realise that your father was Jewish. Anyway, his experience is clearly rather different to that of many pre-war property owners. Ask sjam for details.
So you must think that only Jews owned property in Warsaw. It's about your speed.
the Warsaw tram network is far better than that found in London, Paris, etc.
What a joke! You obviously have not been to London or Paris.
Name another city in Europe where 98%+ of the city centre is owned by the city. The city of Warsaw owns that much and it owns very nearly half of all the individual apartments in the city too!
I was born in Śródmieście. Don't make me laugh. Just pay your rent and leave property owners alone. I guess we and all our friends were the non-communist elite.
1jola
27 Aug 2009
1jola
27 Aug 2009
News / Russia opens archives and Poland demands minority rights from Germany [60]
Solomon,
You seem to have a problem with English prepositions. I suggest you do something about that if want to be understood. It makes all the difference.
This proves you understand what he is trying to say and you're just being an idiot. Some of my friends want kick your ass. Shall I point them in the right direction? The thing is your posts are displayed on our screen at the pub and they seem ofended. I just don't know what to do. :)
Solomon,
You seem to have a problem with English prepositions. I suggest you do something about that if want to be understood. It makes all the difference.
Your fight is with the Russians: they stole your money.
This proves you understand what he is trying to say and you're just being an idiot. Some of my friends want kick your ass. Shall I point them in the right direction? The thing is your posts are displayed on our screen at the pub and they seem ofended. I just don't know what to do. :)
1jola
27 Aug 2009
History / INKA 1946 - a tragic story of a 17 year old patriot executed by communist traitors in 1946 Poland [16]
Stop repeating this nonsense that all Jews are only adherants of Judaism. You know this is not true so what is your point? When it comes to Jewish victims no one is questioning whether they were religious or not. 6 million Jews were victims of the so called holocaust. Were they all religious?
Nonsense. Back up your lies or shut up. Funny that you are the one who mentioned Jews on this thread out of the blue. Who are you shilling for?
The prosecutor in this case was Polish. Where do you get this paranoia?
, given that in winter trials would very often have gone past sunset on Fridays.
Stop repeating this nonsense that all Jews are only adherants of Judaism. You know this is not true so what is your point? When it comes to Jewish victims no one is questioning whether they were religious or not. 6 million Jews were victims of the so called holocaust. Were they all religious?
Poland seems to chase Jewish people who were communist-era criminals rather harder than it chases non-Jewish people who were the same.
Nonsense. Back up your lies or shut up. Funny that you are the one who mentioned Jews on this thread out of the blue. Who are you shilling for?
harder than it chases non-Jewish people who were the same.
The prosecutor in this case was Polish. Where do you get this paranoia?
1jola
27 Aug 2009
History / INKA 1946 - a tragic story of a 17 year old patriot executed by communist traitors in 1946 Poland [16]
Trust me, Jews were well overrepresented among Stalinist judges, prosecutors and other UB functionaries. But, you already knew that.
Today, they are refered to as 'Holocaust survivors.'
Trust me, Jews were well overrepresented among Stalinist judges, prosecutors and other UB functionaries. But, you already knew that.
Today, they are refered to as 'Holocaust survivors.'
1jola
27 Aug 2009
History / INKA 1946 - a tragic story of a 17 year old patriot executed by communist traitors in 1946 Poland [16]
This is a tragic story of a 17 year old patriot executed by communist traitors in 1946.
Unfortunately, I can't find the English subtitle copy, so if anyone has one, please upload it.
You can read about her here:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danuta_Siedzik%C3%B3wna
doomedsoldiers.com/polish-secret-police-murders.html
There are no guilty in any of these cases. The Polish justice system has not been reformed. Shame!
This is a tragic story of a 17 year old patriot executed by communist traitors in 1946.
Unfortunately, I can't find the English subtitle copy, so if anyone has one, please upload it.
You can read about her here:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danuta_Siedzik%C3%B3wna
doomedsoldiers.com/polish-secret-police-murders.html
After the fall of communism in Poland, the main Stalinist prosecutor in Danuta's trial who demanded the death penalty, Wacław Krzyżanowski, was brought up on charges of judicial murder twice (in 1993 and 2001). However, both times he was declared innocent of the charges (Krzyżanowski argued that he was only marginally involved with the case).[3
There are no guilty in any of these cases. The Polish justice system has not been reformed. Shame!
1jola
27 Aug 2009
News / Jews use American congress to pressure Polish government to PAY [63]
The
Here is your answer, Harry. Besides, you don't seem to understand that Jewish organizations are trying to get money for heirless property as if one Jew's property belongs to all Jews.
Jews, just like Poles, can go to court and recover property. My father did. It took six years and a chunk of his life.
Have you been to any European capitol that has one metro line?
We are the richest city in Europe?! A new factoid from Harry.
The
We would not approve of evicting these Polish people from their homes
Here is your answer, Harry. Besides, you don't seem to understand that Jewish organizations are trying to get money for heirless property as if one Jew's property belongs to all Jews.
Jews, just like Poles, can go to court and recover property. My father did. It took six years and a chunk of his life.
the City of Warsaw has got so much money it doesn't know what to do with it
Have you been to any European capitol that has one metro line?
and assets in excess of any other city in Europe!
We are the richest city in Europe?! A new factoid from Harry.
1jola
26 Aug 2009
History / Battle of Grunwald 2009 [24]
I thought you'd like that.
You'd like these guys:
brzo.olsztyn.pl
...and lots more here:
katalog.onet.pl/4925,0,1,bractwa-rycerskie,k.html
I thought you'd like that.
You'd like these guys:
brzo.olsztyn.pl
...and lots more here:
katalog.onet.pl/4925,0,1,bractwa-rycerskie,k.html