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tornado2007   
7 Sep 2007
Love / What does a Polish guy expect from a relationship? [54]

my friend is telling u "hi"

tell your friend hi or hej, does your friend speak english/angielsku??

ohhh some things about ur acting over pf

lol, how am i acting :)

come here and u will hear all

by the time i got there it would be about 2 am, lol
tornado2007   
7 Sep 2007
Love / What does a Polish guy expect from a relationship? [54]

my day has been ok if not a little boring, i've hardly done anything today at all accept sit in the garden and tidy the house, after which i watched a few dvd's :)

which swallow did you think i meant i was carrying on from the conversation above, so i mean both, or in all cases where swallowing can occur :)

what about your day?? how was school??
tornado2007   
7 Sep 2007
Love / What does a Polish guy expect from a relationship? [54]

so what?

what are you saying you like to swallow??

do you want to then? if yes, you'll gain more fans instantantly. lol

also saves an awful lot of mess and clearing up :)

i like to swallow too.. especially when Im eating or drinking.. otherwise I usually vomit.

if you don't swallow it could lead to your death, think of that!!!!
tornado2007   
7 Sep 2007
USA, Canada / What's easier- Working in England under Polish or Canadian Citizenship [15]

you can enter the UK much easier as a Polish citizen than a Canadian one, this is because Poland is and EU member like the UK so Poles basically have free movement into the country, where as if you were applying as a Canadian you would need a visa and work permit etc etc.

Hope it helps
tornado2007   
7 Sep 2007
Love / I really like this Polish guy....what to do next?? [76]

i see what you mean a lot of younger girls do tend to be immature, so you have a point there, i'm sure there are girls who are young that are not immature but i haven't met many
tornado2007   
7 Sep 2007
Love / I really like this Polish guy....what to do next?? [76]

I'm not counting out older and younger woman on stamina because usually the stamina is down to the man, so i'm not to fussed about that.

i'm 22 myself so youngest i'd go is probably about 18 and oldest 28 something like that, sensible i think. I've got nothing against older women its just the way i work
tornado2007   
7 Sep 2007
Love / I really like this Polish guy....what to do next?? [76]

or my man whos 3 years old haha

what he is three years older than you or three years old?? lol

you might not have that much in common for a long term relationship, but believe me there is something to be said about younger men and older women getting together for fun..:)

i guess so but still i'm not sure :)

I thought that guys liked younger women, personally i'm not to bothered either way but there is a limit for me in how much older or younger a girl can be than me
tornado2007   
6 Sep 2007
UK, Ireland / PASSPORTS FOR POLISH PEOPLE TO COME TO ENGLAND [103]

fair one, you know you reminded me of school where once we had a vote on whether we agreed or disagreed with the statement, we were made to go against our vote and construct an argument for the side we had voted against.

It was really cool and i enjoyed it :)

I'm guessing your view differs from mine on the Immigration and the EU situation then?? I' feel like its been me vs the forum all night, lol :)
tornado2007   
6 Sep 2007
UK, Ireland / PASSPORTS FOR POLISH PEOPLE TO COME TO ENGLAND [103]

I am here because I never chose to leave.

you didn't choose to leave, you were born here or what?? why did you come here if you didn't want to??

I have a friend from Lodz, single mother, two children under age of six. She arrived with no job. How would this statement affect her....

she would not be allowed in, it would be down to the Polish government to support her

She now has a job, earning minimum wage, her tax will not cover her childrens education or health needs. Would this be foreseen at point of entry?

she would not have got in in the first place.

Guess who came over to look after the children ?

again N/A they would not be allowed in the first place.

this does seem unfair, so maybe in the checking process there could be some kind of job centre involved so that a job could be set up for the mother. I'm not sure how this would work so please don't ask me, why not ask the home secretary?? lol, although i don't think even the home sec would no :)
tornado2007   
6 Sep 2007
UK, Ireland / PASSPORTS FOR POLISH PEOPLE TO COME TO ENGLAND [103]

on a serious note, our own country the one that we live in.

there is complaining and then there is having a view, you have a view if you live outside or are not involved directly with that country of which you are talking about.

but your getting of my point.

You are hear of your own choice, if you don't like something you can do something about it and remove yourself from that environment. where as if you have a view on America you can't directly do anything about it
tornado2007   
6 Sep 2007
UK, Ireland / PASSPORTS FOR POLISH PEOPLE TO COME TO ENGLAND [103]

I don't need to be in the UK.
Thanks be to the EU!

EU or not you are in the United Kingdom, most of which is governed by the Labour party, different from Poland or any other European country. EU or not this governed by politicians voted in by the citizens of the United Kingdom and not the EU. seems pretty logical to me

nationality of the person making the argument.

what is wrong with that, i'm British, whether i'm Polish or English its my view.
tornado2007   
6 Sep 2007
UK, Ireland / PASSPORTS FOR POLISH PEOPLE TO COME TO ENGLAND [103]

Ever complained about a foreign government?

on a person level yes, but not while i was living or working in that county.

There is a big difference between somebody coming to the UK and complaining and saying, the working conditions are rubbish or, i can't believe i'm working so other people can sit about and claim benefits, the government just don't know how to deal with problem x and problem y.

These people do not need to be in the country, therefore do not need to be experiencing of having these problems.

Its different me having an opinion on say, Bush's stand on Iraq and what should be done. As it does not affect me personally and i have not put myself in that position of not liking or having a problem with it. People who have come to the UK and complained have put themselves in that position and can change it by leaving.

The Hungarians at work go back to Hungary to see the dentist.

what has that got to do with the price of bread :)

No passport required.

don't understand what you are referring to and what part of the conversation it involves
tornado2007   
6 Sep 2007
UK, Ireland / PASSPORTS FOR POLISH PEOPLE TO COME TO ENGLAND [103]

One minute it's forgivable - they're British.
Next minute - bang them up in gaol!
Who's allowed to complain?

People who are legally allowed to vote in a British Government and nobody else :)

Children are dependents

yes they are but they wouldn't be coming here on their own, i would assume they would have a family

elderly would be banned from the UK unless

How many people who you could consider elderly (60+) suddenly decide to up sticks and move from Poland to England for example??? I'm not sure thats an everyday example

plus i did say before, my statements are from one man not the home office, give me a break its like me against the forum. I don't mind standing my corner but your going to have to accept there is only so much quality that a 22 year old student can give. I'm not a politician and i'm not a world leader, lol :)
tornado2007   
6 Sep 2007
UK, Ireland / PASSPORTS FOR POLISH PEOPLE TO COME TO ENGLAND [103]

Benefit cheats are stealing out my wages every month! And every other honest tax payer! That's serious enough!

i know that and i totally agree with hunting them out, so you can put them in prison and take all the money they have to pay it back to the government and therefore the tax payer :)

Its an everyday example.

everyday incidents that could be quashed if my idea of checking etc was implemented, we would have no dependents in this country arriving as such, if somebody falls ill while here then of course they can have care.

I don't write the rules and regulations, i have a lot of ideas and probably could give it a pretty good bash to be honest but i'm not perfect and can't deal with every scenario your going to give me, If the home office can't do it how can you expect me too, how clever do you think i am?? I don't have 1 thousandth of the resources the home office has available to it :)

Having a discussion. Offering a different opinion. Debating the issues you raise and questioning them.

I don't mind this at all, in fact as you said i welcome it, i merely thought you had another agenda than just debating thats all.
tornado2007   
6 Sep 2007
UK, Ireland / PASSPORTS FOR POLISH PEOPLE TO COME TO ENGLAND [103]

Ah, no, no, no! Of course we should support those who truly need it but those who are cheating the system??? Why should I pay what I do in tax every month to support people who could actually be working and paying tax and therefore reducing my contributions and allowing me to have just that little bit extra each month???

of course we need to root our the cheats of the system and put them to work or even if called for lock them up. Of course this depends on the seriousness of the offense

I love to work really hard every day for not very much money so Mr. Smith over the road can sit on his fat lazy arse and **** his ***** of a **** and make more ****ing ******* *********s to harass me at the local shops.

i'm afraid donkey, that is life, if you don't like it then i'm sure you can go back to Poland and work and let those people you mentioned do the same in Poland.

I'm sorry i have no sympathy with those who come to the country and then complain :) If people don't like it they can always go back home :) its easy
tornado2007   
6 Sep 2007
UK, Ireland / PASSPORTS FOR POLISH PEOPLE TO COME TO ENGLAND [103]

I am saying that if a Polish person comes here with their children and the children are in education, then the state are supporting them surely ?
That if an elderly Polish person comes to live here with their relatives and needs health checks the state will support this.

your taking very extreme examples, i'm not sure what your trying to prove by doing so, if people are brought into the country and then later on need support then i guess fair enough they deserve government aid. However if that is the case before they come here then again no don't let them in if they are not self-dependent.

You should see the street I live in.
No Poles. All British.
But many recipients of the fruits of my labour (deserving and undeserving).

Your in Britain they are British, there is no problem with that. If i were in Poland i would expect the same :)
tornado2007   
6 Sep 2007
UK, Ireland / PASSPORTS FOR POLISH PEOPLE TO COME TO ENGLAND [103]

hang on just a second, they are British, this is Britain of course they can be government funded, its an advantage you get when your a British Citizen.
tornado2007   
6 Sep 2007
UK, Ireland / PASSPORTS FOR POLISH PEOPLE TO COME TO ENGLAND [103]

Doesn't that result in less co-operation, yet still a need in the UK for continued immigration?

dosen't really matter, plenty of people want to come here, we can pick and choose who does whether were an EU member or not.
tornado2007   
6 Sep 2007
UK, Ireland / PASSPORTS FOR POLISH PEOPLE TO COME TO ENGLAND [103]

But you'd be in breach of EU law. The free movement of goods, services and people between every member state.

this is why the legislation, laws etc need changing to benefit the UK or in fact we should forget and leave the EU all together :)
tornado2007   
6 Sep 2007
UK, Ireland / PASSPORTS FOR POLISH PEOPLE TO COME TO ENGLAND [103]

Why should anybody feel guilty talking about people with disabilities ?

i think you were trying to put your point across while att he same time making me admit something because you felt i may give in with my thoughts because of the fact the guy you were talking about was disabled. That was all.

Heaps of people I know from Poland are taking over their relatives, mothers, fathers, children, not all working, just immigrating.

as long as the state is not supporting them and they pass all the relevant checks then why not have them come over, if there family members are working and supporting them, its ok but if they need the state to help them, then forget entry.
tornado2007   
6 Sep 2007
UK, Ireland / PASSPORTS FOR POLISH PEOPLE TO COME TO ENGLAND [103]

there's a great difference in trusting people to work with plants and trusting them to work with sick/dying/elderly/children/disabled/menatally handicapped people.

thats why we need to vet people prior to entry, it saves the vetting at a later stage and therefore cuts down on schoolboy errors, a horrifying example of poor background checking is the Holly Wells and Jessica Chatman murders. Ian Huntley was allowed to work at a school and he had previous!!!!!

he is a Brit we have enough giong on without having to worry about immigrants who come here to work, these vetting and detailed checks before entry are vital in my opinion.
tornado2007   
6 Sep 2007
Love / having an affair with a Polish man (but he has a wife and a child) [266]

oooppss sorry for the wrongful identification, i assumed the 'jack' in your name indicated that you were male, so sorry for that.

Yes there are those type of people in the world and i'm not sure if they have feelings at all
because if they did they wouldn't do such things in the first place
tornado2007   
6 Sep 2007
UK, Ireland / PASSPORTS FOR POLISH PEOPLE TO COME TO ENGLAND [103]

Send him back then ?

its not about the people who are here, its about the ones who are not yet 'potentially' here. If they are not coming to work or benefit the UK then 'no entry' sorry thats the line, if somebody is injured or becomes un able to work while they are here then of course they can stay, if we sent them back we would be as bad as the Nazi's.

No need to play the guilt trip on me, it won't work, the people most cynical of the disabled are the disabled themselves :)
tornado2007   
6 Sep 2007
UK, Ireland / PASSPORTS FOR POLISH PEOPLE TO COME TO ENGLAND [103]

I have seen a Polish guy in his twenties,going about in a wheelchair, doesn't look like he is working but his girlfriend looks after him and she does. I dont know if he was in a wheelchair when he got here. What do you think? Send him back?

no of course not, you can admit people who are handicapped but still able to work, i'm not a total dead head, i have members of my family who have disabilities so i don't need my heart strings pulled :)