Language / Genitive case ("nie ma nic" vs "nie ma niczego") [71]

Okay, I'm going to go back to some more simple stuff. I'm obviously trying to bite off more than I can chew and I'm way out of my depth.

Does dziękuję mean thankyou?

Language / Genitive case ("nie ma nic" vs "nie ma niczego") [71]

Jesteś produkując... sera?

This donkey quite obviously needs help.
There's a bit of genitive there, right?

I should have thought about the father of the cheesemaker of the cheese of the goat of the...

Language / Genitive case ("nie ma nic" vs "nie ma niczego") [71]


Akurat!
Akurat?

Should that have the question mark or not?


Ambiguity in language is an inevitability.

Language / What is the most annoying thing about non-native Polish speakers? [90]

This is supposed to be about people speaking Polish as a learnt language, but in keeping with the way this thread is going, can I mention how Poles trying to speak German very often sound far more aggressive than native German speakers? All that rolling of the letter R and failiure to do nice Ö and Ü sounds - it grates!


I've been trying to teach someone the th sound for about a year now. I still feel like I'm getting nowhere. I fink I might give up...

Or perhaps I tink I might give up.

Language / Genitive case ("nie ma nic" vs "nie ma niczego") [71]

A son is normally the son of a father. Don't we just take that for granted in this particular sentence?

Work / Horticulture/Landscape design - opportunities in Poland [17]


I'm struggling to grow one.


Ditto.

I had a Bismarckia nobilis (very nice palm) that died, the same with an Ensete (relative of the Musa) that also snuffed it one winter. But these plants are in my own garden. The ones I work with seem to fair a bit better thankfully.


You're in Ireland? The smaller number of frosts must help you there, but for palms and stuff, I can imagine the wet being more of a problem. It would be nice to see a few interesting new plants hit Poland, but the more continental climate (colder winters, generally drier) and the often acid soils mean many Britohibernonesian (I just made that word up) success stories might not be so easy to replicate over there.

News / So why is there so much animosity against Poles? [65]

I was a little boy at the time. I read Mr. Men books.

News / So why is there so much animosity against Poles? [65]


We've all seen that (well, not on Youtube - it was famous long before that).

Why should we have given the English-speaking, British-settled Falkland Islands to Argentina, a country that had only claimed the islands on paper and had never settled there? I'm no fan of Thatcher, and there were events in the Falklands war that were wrong, but it is not Argentinian.

I have heard an African-Portuguese bloke moaning about how it's all to do with slavery and it should be Argentina's. I just told him that it was settled by British people, without Africans or slaves or anyone, and that Argentina is hardly the best model of a multicoloured society. He had, like many others, fallen for the badmouthing propaganda that paints Britain in a bad light.

When Poland has such things to deal with, the Poles can really legitimately moan about being disliked in the world. I don't moan about Britain being disliked because it is just a fact of life.

News / So why is there so much animosity against Poles? [65]

No, Argentina tried to kick the arse of the Falklands, but they failed.

It is events like this (although it's more to do with the negative propaganda against Britain in events like this) that cause animosity against the British around the world. Poland does not have such things to cause resentment.

Language / Numbers in the Polish Language [39]


Haven't you just contradicted yourself?

Work / Horticulture/Landscape design - opportunities in Poland [17]

A strong landscaping industry goes with a prolific housing market. The more homes that change hands, the more gardens need doing. If many Poles who would do this kind of work have left the country to do similar jobs abroad, and the housing market back home is going somewhere, then things could be on the up for horticulture and landscaping.

But a lot also depends on how much interest there is in gardening amongst the garden-owning population. With more money flowing around, and inspiration from people who have worked in places like England (where we all love our gardens to bits), commercial ornamental growing could be on the increase.

My 'What's in Your Garden?' thread got deleted. It did look as though a few Poles loved their gardens, even Polish Poles in Poland.

News / So why is there so much animosity against Poles? [65]

Different forms of racism and xenophobia from different groups of people against other different groups of people, seem to have a huge variety of ways in which they try to justify it. Anti-racism doesn't need to be different amongst it's wide range of adherents.

News / So why is there so much animosity against Poles? [65]

And Britain in in...

Africa?
America?
Australia?
Oceania?
Asia?

Antarctica. Yes, I think it's in Antarctica.

UK, Ireland / First generation Pole in the UK [24]

Mistakes like that go way back to the days of yore.

News / So why is there so much animosity against Poles? [65]

Be European when it suits you, why not!

News / So why is there so much animosity against Poles? [65]

Well how many Americans are European?

UK, Ireland / First generation Pole in the UK [24]

The good thing about this thread coming back was what I found as I scrolled down the page.
Welcome to PF, Rowan Atkinson!

UK, Ireland / First generation Pole in the UK [24]


Don't put words into my mouth.

Britain did not save Poland. The allies nearly saved Poland, but you have noticed who one of the so-called allies were. Poles don't owe us anything for what happened way back in history. Poland, the country, deserves the EU funding it gets, which add up to far more than 'craps' [sic]. Begging? You are warped.


Not only do you have little understanding of the present, you also have little understanding of history.

UK, Ireland / First generation Pole in the UK [24]

Took you a long time to work that one out, noimmig. You're still wrong.


You have craps on your table? Is this a plural of crap or is it the gambling game as frequestly mentioned in the music Guys & Poles? I mean Guys & Dolls.

Life / Does Poland have SANDWICH VANS [21]


Tell that to the lady who packed my lunch for the coach journey last time. She doubled my weight in luggage with all those sandwiches.


Finished, but only after what looked like hours and hours of work.

Language / Cases, Genders, Nominative, Instrumental...WHY? [40]

Polish does look like it has too many cases. Why things fall into one case and not another doesn't, to me, always make very much sense, but that is how it evolved. Never mind - we just have to live with it. But English...

Gender:
"She's quite a fast car."
"The Dog - he just ran out into the road."

Tense:
There's too much to say about English tenses, so I won't.

Who / Whom
Irregular verbs - thought / think, eat / ate / eaten, etc.
Irregualr nouns - foot / feet. How tall are you? Five foot eight!


It's pretty much pronounced as it is spelt.
The ae-type letter is like a short modern English 'a'.
The ð is like the th in that.
The þ is like the th in thin.
The c on its own is always a k sound.

Love / Don't Polish men fall for British women? [57]


Why hate it? This particular girl identifies herself as English. I identify myself as a horticulturist, banjoist, English donkey. I know there's some Welsh in my family tree. I never fully found out about the Dutch man who did turns on the stage as a strong-man back in Victorian times. I might or might not be a descendent. Either I am or he eloped with a woman who I am descended from.

Love / Don't Polish men fall for British women? [57]

My Polish flatmate has fallen for a girl at work who is mostly English. Maybe it's the quarter of her that's Spanish that he really likes.

News / So why is there so much animosity against Poles? [65]


I money don't money pretend it's not money. Money money money. I'm smiling right now, money.

Why whilst typing that, did I keep accidentally typing the word monkey?

News / So why is there so much animosity against Poles? [65]


Unlikely, but in childhood, we do react in strange ways to people who are different, but on the other hand, children are also far more likely not to care about differences. It is adults who have already been taught to hate who are generally the problem.

The first time in my life I ever heard anyone speak a different language, I just started crying. Not loud wailing and bawling, but for some time in my childood, I'd hear a strange language and have to repress the tears. I really don't know why.


I've seen plenty of smiling Poles. I have seen a few very stern-looking ones though.


I have seen a bendy Pole. I definately recall seeing the Olympic games on the telly. There's this event called the pole-vault. It just wouldn't work if they were as rigid as one of those stern Slavic faces. Oops! Did I just type that?

Language / Google now translates from Polish to English and English to Polish [13]

I just wanted to check something pgtx had translated for me earlier.
This is English:
Pije himself cold and Tyskie slucham muzyczki, so do not ask me zebym podniosl dupe and whatever robil

I decided to add some Polish letters, and I got this:
Pije consecutive cold Tyskie and listen muzyczki, so do not ask me zebym podniosl dupe and anything done.

Language / Google now translates from Polish to English and English to Polish [13]

I don't know why I ask if it's any good, as I don't know how to use google.

Language / Google now translates from Polish to English and English to Polish [13]

But is it any good?

I have seen translation devices that translate word-for-word with everything in dictionary form (nominative, present tense, masculine, blah blah blah).

UK, Ireland / UK Car Insurance [13]


For Tesco, human souls are cheap.

News / So why is there so much animosity against Poles? [65]

Because its a nice sunny day, I've just got home, cracked open a bottle of beer and put my feet up with some tunes on. Life seems good. I opened up my web browser and saw that other people in the world are miserable, struggle to deal with life or always look for something bad to dwell on. 'Oh no!' I thought as I took another sip of beer. 'Perhaps I've been making a mistake. Why should I be so happy when others are so bitter?' So I have decided to add a little negativity into my life just so I can feel a bit more like everyone else.

I'm looking round for something to be negative about. Hmm... Those books in the corner of the room are in a bit of a mess.

I BLAME THE POLES. THAT'S WHY I HATE THEM.

Right! Now I'm a bit more noraml, obviously. Now shall I listen to Peregoyo Y Sus Combo Vacana or shall I listen to Sun Ra?

Life is cruel sometimes

I edited out the rant.