History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

pain :)

ok so maybe Russian tsar, who came to Cracow asking Polish king for help , we werent interested so he converted into catolic religion and gained support of some Polish nobels who helped him to take moscov and were using him as a puppet :) we were there before Napoleon and we were much longer there (Polish flag was on the top of kreml) ...

History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

be careful with your appetite ... Soviet Union beaten by Poland

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish-Soviet_War

as to history, do you remember ?

You were on the knees only on front of Poles

You will remember them as well :

News / Polish-German Relations in the Present [697]

my godness, you are so useful ConstantinK ... :)))

History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

You have started repeting lie which was discuter here, (3rd May constitution !!!)

I think that you want discuss it again to hide your "way of thinking" we have seen on last pages... no ,no my dear ConstantineK, last pages show exactly what all the people should know about our relationships.

Love / Dating age difference - my 16 yo is dating a 26 yo Polish guy [102]


I live in Poland and most of Polish families would be worried when their 16 year old dauther would date 26 year old man

History / Cud nad Wisla / Battle of Warsaw 1920 - Public Holiday [21]

it shows better whole war not only one battle ... we deffended our country we stoped red army

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish-Soviet_War

History / Jewish belongings [118]

about 30% of Warszawa was jewish beffore the war.

And it is Warszawa after the war (95% of town totally destroyed)

What do you think happened with jewish belongings there ...

History / Katyn - the Polish movie [29]

intro in english (hi quality) so up loads longer

katyn.netino.pl/zwiastuny/katyn_ang.wmv

History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]


In Poland comunists were in prison (before WWII)

but no no no not again history

News / Polish-German Relations in the Present [697]


come on constantine :)))) we will give you low-cost cottages ;)))))

and good cars, really good cars ;)

History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

ehhh ...

News / Roman Giertych.... a right-wing politician from Poland [90]

ok I understand you hello ... but half of america does the same with their idiot Bush ...

But all in all ok we shouldnt ;))))


Yes we like to mock that kind of others ;) That is why we will never create new Hitler ;)
because after one of his grate speaches:

youtu.be/_Q-6H4xOUrs

he would be considered as pedofile and mocked ;)

News / Polish-German Relations in the Present [697]


30% according new focuses, in some regions they had in last local elections 9% Ihope they will deal with it ...


LOL typical English way of conversation ;)

I prefere our more emotional.

History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

You know Poland was waitnig only for the moment of weaknes of your country, without Soviet Union we would be democratic just after the WWII, now we can go our way. And we do it. You think your way is more proper for Russia, ok it is your choice. Go your own way. We will see who have chosen better

History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

so wait for Porshe for 2000$ and we will go our way ...

History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

paper was example, what I wanted to say is that you should fight :)))



;)

History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

ok transformation hurts a lot of people ...

Look on veterans from vietnam, after their fight, forgoten, on the marigin of society ...

My family was always in oposition espesialy in 1945-52 and '80s. And whole family have won on transformation . But there were a lot of people who fighted against comunism and just were not so good in capitalism. Privatisation in some cases were unfair. But now throught young people there is no segregation of children of comunists and opposition. Yes some of the people are realy disappoited, Just imagine two friends form factory and one of them has his own bussines now and antoher one is working part time in factory. Even he live in better conditions he is disappoited because he was on the middle of ladder and now he is on the bottom.

And some of them are disapointed that they were fighting agains coumunism and they lost, and some of those who were in party becomed realy good in free market and they are on the top all the time.

Some of comunists just before transformation frauded some goods and had better start in new system.

We had post-comunists governemnt in our country but they used democracy and were west oriented.

But now we are going in right direction, and we have democracy and free market, our economy is stronger and stronger, and we have freedom of speach, free media ...

According Russia, you have much worst situation 0,1% of your society lives like medieval dukes, and rest just can look on it. All in all you havent fight for your freedom so you dont have the base to be disappointed.

You should made presure for more freedom, you make demostration in the defend of independent local newspaper, when you recive it you ask for more. If you dont recive it you notice your governemnt isnt as good as it pretends to be ... And you get more supporters... There will be monent when your society will see the real face of regime and your regime will notice that it is not possible to be on the top in this system and will think about transformation and their future after ...

History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

You have to create your slogan, I m not Russian, you told me not to teach you

History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

yes yes count on Putin

History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

Look on histoy of our fight

1945-52 open military fight against red army and comunists

more significant riots, protestes, manifiestations against comunism:

1956

1968

1970

1980-81

and the end

1989

We know It was your system, and we were only waiting for your weaknes, I give you our expirience, you can use it or not it is your choice.

But what I have noticed, Russia which pretends to be so strong ... and Russian society ... weak and not able to resistance.

History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]


average salary is about 2800 pln (data from this mounth) dolar costs about 2,6 pln so we earn about 1076 $ per mounth (without tax), but... but it doesnt mater.

truhlei EU, USA or Putin are not going to give you democracy, you have to go on the street and finght for that

History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

i changed my previous post I hope you noticed

look esp. on 2nd quote

History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

Oh my god, western, eastern, totalitarism. I dont understand you. There is nothing like one western world. Europe tries to be one partner for USA. Japan is democratic as well. Ther isnt one western democratic world.

In quite an uncontroled state of 142 mln residents where the law is forest and a bear is justice? Don't be crazy. Europe could influence in Poland and you became better. Your posts show that by your own force it would be impossible.


We were much poorer than you are now, without "low cost" cars or cottages

solidarity poland

History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]


it was about Russia ... personaly i think that USA is doing the same S*** but they can use their power

History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

no my dear truhlei,

USA GDP is about 10037,1 mld EUR

... politely we think, yes they are spending they money on S*** they are to weak to use.

History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

ok I have some interesting data, according partners size

data is from 2005 but we have made similar progres

Russia 140 mln people whole GDP (not per capita) 385.3 mld EUR (you have here : gas, petrol, industry, services just everthing)

Poland 38 mln people GDP is 243.4 mld EUR.

So all in all in Polish economy isnt much smaler than yours.

when we take GDP per capita (per person)

Russia GDP is about 2752,14 EUR
Poland GDP is about 6405,26 EUR

source: EUROSTAT

do you know what do we think when we see you sending space rockets, or building new strategic bombers, or missiles ...

Just take take our expirence ... and become more or less but democratic country, using free market. And just stop talking about "low cost" something ... whole world works every hour to produce cheaper and better products.

History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

Is it ok ? :)))

History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

truhlei, make your own liberal party, You said that there is about 30% support for real liberals, and they dont have party to vote. 30 % it is good groud ... Why dont you try ?

according EU if you think it exists only because of Russian thread ... no comment.

News / Roman Giertych.... a right-wing politician from Poland [90]

:) it isnt his wife it is mouther of his children ;)))

History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

Ok truhlei

I see you have positive attitude towards Poland.

So I will give you personal advice. Never count on others, you can get some help but the most important thing is hard work. To be honest nobody will give you "low cost cottages" for free, to make Russia stronger, you should take your opportunity coming from gas and petrol for develpoment. Educate your kids, make taxes lower, promote succesful people (in positive way), And try to change your coutry yourself, invest your money, run your own business, and vote for change. Putin is old KGB spy, you dont need that kind of leader.

You dont have real opposition ?

So why dont you try to make your own political party, when you think that 30% of your society wants liberal Russia living in pace.

No body will do it for you, your own society must do it. And just try to do it, and you will see why we consider Putin as authorative ruler ... Yes try to make local commiety for democracy in Russia, or liberal Russia, you will see ...