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tornado2007   
8 Oct 2007
Feedback / My Thoughts on this Forum and Moderators [71]

Admin

don't try and take the light of yourself, regardless of what other forums do dosen't matter, if people are saying that they may like the threads locked then you can facilitate it or tell them that its not possible.

Either way using the other forum as a scape goat isn't going to work :)
tornado2007   
8 Oct 2007
Feedback / My Thoughts on this Forum and Moderators [71]

[Yet again, and again...] - The only forums that MAY vanish are the ones from the OFF-TOPIC (not related to Poland) section.

Admin

mine was related to poland it was entitled 'I want a POLISH girl to love' now if Polish girls are not related to Poland then what the heck is :)
tornado2007   
8 Oct 2007
Feedback / My Thoughts on this Forum and Moderators [71]

The main problem i see is that compared to most forums threads just vanish.

Majority of forums I have been on moderators would post in the thread the reason and then lock it.

you have hit the nail squarely on the head right there!!!! You are so right about that, i was wanting to browse my old 'i want a polish girl to love' thread but i couldn't because it had been deleted, since when did the cyber men take over and start deleting things???

just lock it and leave it so we can load it :)
tornado2007   
7 Oct 2007
UK, Ireland / Stop the Polish from entering the UK (yet another thread) [192]

At the moment, they take and give back.
Without membership, they take and don't give back.

what do they give???

You have a very simplistic view of economics and international trade.
You seem to have conveniently ignored the social benefits of the British government being pushed into giving us things like the minimum wage, you have ignored how the UK can benefit from outside countries wanting to deal with the EU and using the UK as a base. This works for all member states, including Poland.
You have also ignored the historic benefit - cohesion amongst European states putting an end to armed conflict between countries. If there had been no EU, you can't tell how European countries might have progressed without common political direction.
It might not have turned out so nicely.

i take your points and you make them well, surely however we can trade with who we like, we are in the power position, we can pick and choose so to speak.
tornado2007   
7 Oct 2007
UK, Ireland / Stop the Polish from entering the UK (yet another thread) [192]

Netherlands, Belgium, France, Italy and Spain

exactly countries that can offer us things back, these are main members, so to speak.

Now if you will excuse me, I have some French cheese to go and eat.
I will continue later.

yum yum

That is rubbish. Trade between nations is not done by a couple of politicians shaking hands and that's it.
You would simply add huge areas of burocracy to deal with so many different countries.

all you need to do is organise trade, not that difficult in the grand scheme of things, its just as part of the EU you are all under one warm sheet :)

I'm not sure what you mean.
If you mean the cost of trade without any decision making in return being your preference.

what i mean is that there are nations of the EU who take take take and don't give back :) i'm sure thats clear enough :):):)

So some industries in the UK lose out because their trading partners are seen as insignificant?

you could trade company to company without the EU, it is just costing us money, the EU that is, if we wanted to trade with european companies we would do so same as we do with America and Asia etc

Trade between member states is not restricted as it is with outside countries.

yeah i know that but its only worth trading in this way with some of the members not all of them.

And now it is easier and we have more bargaining power.

yes and at the same time filling the pockets of the Eastern Europeans with free money :)

that we depend on?

no i'm sorry, we need Russia (gas), we need the US (Lots of things) we need parts of Asia (oil) we don't need Poland, Romania, Bulgaria etc etc
tornado2007   
7 Oct 2007
News / Poland threatens to reject EU treaty [72]

Why? An ethnically divided eastern Europe a good thing in your opinion?

to be very very very honest and probably sounding a little selfish, if it ends the involvement of some of the countries in the EU then i'm all up for it. I don't particularly care if Poland don't see eye to eye with some of the countries involved, heck they have enough bad relations anyway as do we.

Would it be like another EU - something you don't even like to start with?

yes but the UK and other major nations would not be stumping the bill :)

When was the last time the Slavs were one people?

very good point

How many people other than Crow even want such a union?

thats a quesiton for those who may potentially be involved, maybe even worth a thread of its own? 'Would you like to see a united slavic union??'
tornado2007   
7 Oct 2007
News / Poland threatens to reject EU treaty [72]

Well i'm all up for this Slavic Union, it would give those countries a chance to grow helping each other without having to take money from those other bigger nations in the EU.

I'm not to sure how the inter-relations would work but hay i guess where money is concerned any relationship can be formed.

I'll sign on the dotted line on the 'Slavic Union' vote and i'm British :)
tornado2007   
7 Oct 2007
UK, Ireland / Stop the Polish from entering the UK (yet another thread) [192]

You are ignoring the cost of NOT being a member in trading with the EU.

please tell me exactly what we would miss out on?? a few turnips from Poland, a house or two in Bulgaria and god no's what from Romania??

What would happen if the EU fell apart, say, starting with the UK?

fall apart??? i would be first out of it :) The core nations would trade on anyway as we offer each other fair trade and have something to give and receive in return.

How many agreements would have to be made?

they don't have to be cut in stone or official, just 'friendship' agreements rather than a million page document on the ins and outs. It means we are not restricted or forced into anything therefore being able to make our own choices for the UK.

What would be the cost?

i would rather pay money to those nations who are giving back :)

The whole of the EU, or just certain countries?

just those countries who can offer us something in return so we can trade on a 50-50 basis or a little bit each way :)

Many people would lose out on the trade benefits of selective trade agreements.

trade from which countries, we were trading with most of europe before the EU came into existence anyway, well those that were important enough and central to our needs.

Because the UK is part of the telling other people what to do process.
The British press just doesn't like to mention any of this. It doesn't sell rags.

i wouldn't say your lying here just that we don't need to control the parts of europe that depend on us, whats the point, they cost us money!!!

We train many British citizens to make new lives for themselves all around the world already.

yeah of course we do but we also need to train those ones back in the UK who haven't got the skills to go and work on a worldwide or international scale.
tornado2007   
6 Oct 2007
UK, Ireland / Stop the Polish from entering the UK (yet another thread) [192]

haha, lets not go tit for tat now as you know that the England stats will come out on top, i won't even bother going into recent footballing meetings between our two nations :)

Look after your own first is what my old dad always said!

mine too :)
tornado2007   
6 Oct 2007
UK, Ireland / Stop the Polish from entering the UK (yet another thread) [192]

Your tribemen killed many people around Europe, so that will be a good change.

i'm not proud of any of our football hooligans and wouldn't mind if they got lynched to be honest :)

Well, unlike your twats, we are leading our group in Euro 2008 eliminations.

hahaha, yeah leading the group, then you'll qualify and do exactly what you did in the last world cup, lol :) (NOTHING) maybe even loose to Germany again
tornado2007   
6 Oct 2007
UK, Ireland / Stop the Polish from entering the UK (yet another thread) [192]

Enrich your life because they bring with them fresh tallent and new ideas which makes working in those firms much more pleasant

yes those who have the skills the country requires (which means the ones we don't have within, not the ones who come to poor our coffee, serve behind our bars, clean our floors and toilets :) )

.Specialists are rare

i've stated many times on this forum i would intake those with specialist skills

There are also lay abouts in our own ranks which we have to deal with. Scrap all the benefits and only help those who are desparate.That's the answer,no politician has the balls though.Give it to the old people and hire decent doctors instead.Put mor coppers on the streets too.

i agree and have said the same thing

If we value democracy then we must defend the right to invest ones earnings wherever one wishes.

no problem with that but we don't need all these workers, thats my point :)

longterm

i'm thinking long term for this country, that is what all my points are aiming at.

training for people

I don't want to train people who are going to leave the country and go back to their own, that is money wasted on our part. Training for those here may be expensive but they will learn how to be an effective tool to the british economy and working world, our own people need this don't you think? anyway its cheaper than paying out millions to the countries of the EU who we get nothing back from :)
tornado2007   
6 Oct 2007
UK, Ireland / Stop the Polish from entering the UK (yet another thread) [192]

We don't need to be in the EU you get a lot more taken from us or we give more than we give back, us leaving would even it out a little so we wouldn't actually loose that much.

As for European relations, you don't need to go to bed with other countries to be friends or have solidarity, do you??

we can have an agreement with France if we like, we can have an agreement with Spain if we like or any other country, why do we need the busy bodies in Brussels telling one of the most economically and politically powerful nations in Europe what to do??
tornado2007   
6 Oct 2007
UK, Ireland / Stop the Polish from entering the UK (yet another thread) [192]

I am not against anyone who comes here with needed skills and adds to our community.My wife is Polish and she is a vital member of her company.She speaks English perfectly and is very qualified.

thats exactly the type of people we need here, i totally agree with that part of your statement

There are many others like her and they are paid what they are worth.You should have no issue with these people as they help enrich your life.

how do they enrich my life?? i don't get it. We could fill these jobs with British people who are taking benefits for no reason.

heap bus/truck drivers,shoddy builders and cut price warehousing operatives do nobody any benefit in the long term and decrease the income for British people in the same jobs.These are often the people who are the most vulnerable to such change. If we want a quality country we should raise the standard not lower it.We should avoid reducing ourselves to spouting racist nationalist nonsense,it will only do our case harm.Leave the nationalism to young greg.

no racist nationalist nonsense here, the best way to help this country is by getting its people to do its work. Therefore the money earned stays within the United Kingdom and therfore saves the millions paid out in benefits that are not even needed :)
tornado2007   
6 Oct 2007
UK, Ireland / Stop the Polish from entering the UK (yet another thread) [192]

yes we've heard all about the 'Polish Hooligans' the worst in Europe, i guess you've got to be proud of something HAY :) The team aren't going to make any headlines so i guess the fans oblige :)
tornado2007   
6 Oct 2007
UK, Ireland / Stop the Polish from entering the UK (yet another thread) [192]

All further Polish immigrants must be stopped from entering the UK

Ok, you have gone wrong by saying that, what you should have said is

'all further immigrants (not just Polish, which was one of your mistakes) who are not coming to either be educated or to take a job with a specific skill required, should be turned down for being able to enter the UK.

at least 50% should be thrown out

There is nothing wrong with what you have said here although the number is very vague so i would say 'all those of no use or that are benefiting the UK economy or the British should be deported back to their country of origin.

The british people are sick of so many eastern european immigrants in this country

what you say is true, however you should have said 'The majority of British people are sick of so many immigrants (Not just Eastern Europeans) coming into the United Kingdom.

more attacks on the eastern europeans everyday

No matter how many people are entering the country they do not deserved to be racially attacked because they are exercising their write under current law to enter the UK, there is no, i repeat no excuse for these attacks what so ever.

This situation will get worse and worse as more british nationals have had enough

the situation will get worse yes, first politically, if the government are seemed not to be listening to the people there will be unrest. Secondly foreign nationals filling that some British people can't be bothered to do does not solve the problem for OUR country in the long run, the government need to spend money on kicking these people out of their houses and into work. Lastly and most unfortunately, yes, there will be those narrow minded thugs who wish to carry out attacks on whoever they think is a good enough target.

Leave our country and go back to help improve your own country

i could not agree more with what you said here, its probably the most sensible part of your post.

we no longer want you here

i disagree, of course we want people here who are going to help our country as a whole or just economically.

There are three different types of people who object to Immigration on such a large scale, these are:

1. Racists/stupid people, These are either just racist so want any excuse to pull the dagger on what they see as inferior or substandard forms of life. Stupid, they just don't understand about immigration at all and probably have an iq of about 21 and enjoy a good punch up after the football.

2. Misguided/unthoughtful: These people usually have a valid point but just cannot express themselves in the correct manner like the example at the start of the post. Generally they are so passionate that they don't realise what they are saying can be viewed as racist and biggoted. They don't want to be racists they are just very frustrated at the current situation in our country.

3. Educated/Frustrated: these people generally see a problem and want to go about it the right way and express their views, which while making their point will not cause major offense or upset to the immigrant population. (that is, as much as they can)

It is my belief that the third kind are way way out numbered by the first two, therefore instead of the government listening to people such as in the third variety they believe that the British population (those who are apposed to mass-immigration) belong to the first two categories. This third group also tend to get shot down on Public Forums, lol :)

If we wanted to kick out all the freeloaders in this country we would have to leave the E.U. We cant so lets just get on with it shall we??

thats not true, of course we can its just the government won't have a referendum on the matter :)

I dont like the fact that we've been sold out by our own country or that our hospitaity is being abused by more than one group of visitors. Again we cant do anything about it so lets just get on with what we have left.

once again, yes there is, the government can have a referendum and then the EU will be voted out so we leave it, therefore leaving us to deal with immigration however we like :)

They'll leave when there's nothing more to take

which is exactly why action needs to be taken down now!!!! we didn't wait around for the Germans to take over we fought against that physical threat, now we have another threat al together and we need to solve the problem and act not hide away. If everything is taken then its too late and the country is then in ruin!!!

Some of the nationalist views here are a bit too strong and dont reflect on your intelligence well.

totally agree with that statement, your spot on :)

'm English aswell and I know that not many people I know have views as strong as those i've seen hereGrzegorz seems to be some kind of Polish master race brit hater with no good word for anyone.Thinks he's clever maybe,I just thinks his posts are unneccessarily common.

i'm also used to mr Greg, he's a fluffy dog, he can't hurt you just jump around at your heels and snap away, just deal with him and argue true and he has no real answers :)

As for urinating on people,how clever! I wouldn't urinate on you if you were on fire in the street.

Good one :)
tornado2007   
6 Oct 2007
News / Poland threatens to reject EU treaty [72]

kool well maybe the UK can ask the Polish how to muck up negotiations and then do it themselves so we are thrown out of the EU, i think that would be an all round good thing for the UK :)
tornado2007   
2 Oct 2007
UK, Ireland / Polish teenager murdered after arriving in UK [117]

We should look to our own problems before

yes exactly we need to look at and after our own :)

its not casting stones as i'm talking about immigrants and not just a few plonkers on a stag weekend or out to cause trouble at the football :)
tornado2007   
2 Oct 2007
UK, Ireland / Polish teenager murdered after arriving in UK [117]

yeah i agree, to loose somebody so young in the family must be horrible

bright guy

little twat

thats not the language of somebody who has a way with words is it greg?? :)
tornado2007   
2 Oct 2007
UK, Ireland / Polish teenager murdered after arriving in UK [117]

wow, same old same old, try something more original, if your trying to spark me off it won't work. A little cuddly dog with a bite, i don't think so :)

people have questioned my intelligence before but have been proved very wrong. I think your view is some what blurred by the fact you probably don't like some of the things i say
tornado2007   
2 Oct 2007
UK, Ireland / Polish teenager murdered after arriving in UK [117]

no i just know its so easy to get under your skin, don't start something if you can't finish it. You have your problems and we have ours.

keep your pants on mate you don't want to have to pay double the price you bought them for originally :)

come on Greg lighten up, i hate people being exploited, you should know that at least. however if all you can do is throw a little abuse at me (pregnant fish) rather than making a proper point then i'm laughing like you were ;):):):)
tornado2007   
2 Oct 2007
Love / HOW CAN POLISH WOMEN KEEP A BLACK MAN? [84]

tornado, so if u realize that this is the one, would u try to keep her no matter what? (takin' under consideration she did't cheat or anything like that)

well if i thought she was the one, yes, i would give my right arm or ride all round the world and all the other sayings i can think of. Its a lot different to some girl you just fancy, i like a few girls and don't even bother telling them. However if its the one then i'll go the whole hog.
tornado2007   
2 Oct 2007
UK, Ireland / Polish teenager murdered after arriving in UK [117]

It doesn't give the nationality of the culprit, but it suggests that a Polish person may be responsible.

so its an in-house murder (Pole murdering a Pole) Out-house (outside of Poland)

Just shows some of the trash we let into this country
tornado2007   
1 Oct 2007
UK, Ireland / English people attitude towards Poles? [761]

No offence but the only people that I know of that have married Polish girls have not been that popular with local girls for one reason or another. Some Polish women are very attractive but as they say beauty is only skin deep.

very true :)

I kind of think the whole package of adopting family, and even sending money back to the family as I have been told, is not really a relationship derived from love.

you hit the nail right on the head with that hammer blow

I think British men have more understanding with their own women

i agree big up to all the British ladies out there :)

only desperados will marry a foreigner.

hhhmmmm i don't think your right here, i have had foreign girlfriends and they are fantastic just as the British girls are.
tornado2007   
1 Oct 2007
Law / Shoppoland.com is a rip off [6]

wow three non members in one area, this has to be a first :) what is this company??
tornado2007   
30 Sep 2007
Love / HOW CAN POLISH WOMEN KEEP A BLACK MAN? [84]

of there is that is why everybody is different in that way, therefore you are asking a very difficult question whereby the only person who knows the answer is the man involved
tornado2007   
30 Sep 2007
Love / HOW CAN POLISH WOMEN KEEP A BLACK MAN? [84]

what would make u choose 1 women from so many?

i guess its to do with the quality of time i spend with her, her personality, her attitude, lots of things really. There is nothing that could determine a girl for me just by picking one out of say a million and saying, yes she is the one come on down misses your the one for me.

Usually when you meet somebody 'who is the one' you don't really realise it and it hits you square in the face.

sorry for the rubbish explanation there is a much longer one but didn't want to bore the whole forum, lol :)
tornado2007   
30 Sep 2007
Love / HOW CAN POLISH WOMEN KEEP A BLACK MAN? [84]

well than woul that b better 4 u lot: how can a woman keep a man?

the thing is everybody reacts differently in different situations, it can be easy to guess or predict what somebody will do and sometimes very accurately but on others you could be totally wrong.

It would be wrong of me to tell you how to keep a man you have neither described to me or given me any information on. The same goes for everybody else too, you cannot really comment on something that you don't really have a lot of information or experience on or of.
tornado2007   
30 Sep 2007
Love / HOW CAN POLISH WOMEN KEEP A BLACK MAN? [84]

u r sad u lot. why u like 2 pick on sthin' that shuldn't matter 2 u? pathetic really.

then don't post on a 'public' forum :)

what do you mean something that should not matter to me, i wouldn't post if it didn't, i'm just unsure of your motives for posting about 'black man' rather than just 'man'