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Trevek   
28 May 2009
UK, Ireland / Polish Spitfire shoots down BNP [63]

back then the gap between working and sitting on arse all day collecting benefits was the same as it is now.

True. I used to work in a factory in Telford and I was on a pretty decent hourly rate for my position. This was because the rest of the guys all came from Tamworth and had refused to work in Telford for Telford rates.

Also, the reason so many foreign firms set up in Telford in the 1980's was because it was such a low wage area.
Trevek   
26 May 2009
UK, Ireland / Polish Spitfire shoots down BNP [63]

damn, that was a long sentence!

That is a Polish sentence if I ever saw one! If people started writing using Polish style sentences it could revitalise the British printing trade!
Trevek   
26 May 2009
History / Poland: dont blame us its the Germans. [174]

if the Versailles Treaty hadn't been so brutal and unforgiving, there might not have been a Hilter either

The economist JM Keynes referred to it as 'the ruination of Europe'.
Trevek   
26 May 2009
UK, Ireland / Polish Beer in Ireland! [13]

Beamish had the rights to make Fosters and Miller here in Ireland.

Seems they were owned by Elders, Australian company who own Fosters, for a while.

I didn't realise how big Beamish had been in the past

wikipedia (so it must be true): Beamish and Crawford's "Cork Porter Brewery" prospered, and by 1805 it had become the largest brewery in Ireland and the third largest in the United Kingdom as a whole. In 1805 its output was 100,000 barrels per annum - up from 12,000 barrels in 1792.[
Trevek   
26 May 2009
UK, Ireland / Polish Spitfire shoots down BNP [63]

The trouble is that the mainstream parties are generally gutless about addressing things like immigration because they're terrified they'll be seen as racist or that the industry bosses will pack up and go to China for cheap labour.

It is this reluctance which means the issues are never properly addressed and so people who'd never usually go near BNP find themselves going there because the party appear to offer either a solution OR, at least, a voice. A dangerous situation.

I wonder why the BNP didn't use a Gurkha...
Trevek   
26 May 2009
Life / Ceilidhs in Krakow [19]

A long way! Took us about 10 hours by coach last time.
Trevek   
24 May 2009
Life / Ceilidhs in Krakow [19]

There's a friend of mine does the odd ceilidh in the Olsztyn area. I teach the odd bit of ceilidh dancing. I'd love to know if you ever have a biggy down there (as the actress said to the bishop).
Trevek   
24 May 2009
Life / Ceilidhs in Krakow [19]

Is that the guy that sometimes plays in the Main Square?

Not sure, he's pretty big league. Plays concerts with philharmonics and the like.

lindsaydavidson.co.uk
Trevek   
24 May 2009
UK, Ireland / Polish Beer in Ireland! [13]

Heineken bought my Fav local beer recently.

I thought they bought it years ago, about the same time Fosters, or someone, bought Murphy's.

That's the whole reason it started getting pushed in UK pubs. I was in Cork about 18 years ago when they first started plugging draught Beamish in London (when you couldn't get it draught outside of Cork). "Beamish: sold in 100 pubs in London, so buy it at London prices!" Quite good at 1 pound a pint, made it 50-60p cheaper than a Guinness at the time.
Trevek   
24 May 2009
Life / Ceilidhs in Krakow [19]

There's a noted Scottish piper in Krakow, Lindsay Davidson, perhaps he has a hand in ceilidhs.
Trevek   
22 May 2009
Life / So it's hit me too, isolation in Poland [46]

I think it was "Auf Wiedersehn, Pet" where they end up working amongst ex-pats in Spain. One character, Oz, I think, says ,"Typical ex-pats... spend all their time trying to escape the misery of home and when they do they spend all their time trying to recreate it!"
Trevek   
21 May 2009
Language / Inability to roll r's considered a 'lisp' in Polish? [4]

Tell her to wear high heels. It helps most girls roll their R's.

Seriously, I had a funny experience in a primary school where I was directing a play in English. I chose on girl to say a rhyme because she was wonderful at saying 'th'.

Over hill and over dale, Through the forest and the fire, beneath the moon so white and pale, through the mud and through the mire.

A couple of weeks later I asked her to recite it again, (English letters for pronunciation)

"Owa hiw an dower dayw, thwu the fowestan da faja, beneefda moon so wayt an payl, thwu the mud an thwu the miyr"

I couldn't believe it. I turned to my Polish assistant and asked, "What's her Polish like?"

"The same" came the reply.

I hadn't known 'th' is considered a lisp.

I have one Polish student who claims not to be able to say 'cz' and 'sz' properly. I asked her how on earth she could speak Polish without being able to do it... "Like Kasia Cichopek!"
Trevek   
21 May 2009
History / any thoughts about Norman Davies ability to present accurate history of Poland?? [12]

I think one of things about Davies is that he cuts through a lot of fixed ideas, so, for example, at one point in God's Playground, he points out that the distance between peasants and szlachta was so wide that we could speak of them as being totally different cultures. It's an important thing to consider when talking of Poland as a culture and country of tolerance and freedom. It was if you were of a certain class. likewise, he talks about intercultural/ethnic relationships in a way which is not loaded down by political rhetoric. Important if you are also examining local sources.

A bit more contraversial; he also gets away from a Jew-heavy history of Poland.

Now, don't get me wrong here, I'm not anti-Jewish or suggesting that Jewish history is not a vital or important piece of Polish history. It's just that for many historians it seems to be the only thing they focus on and so miss other bits which don't fit/ aren't necessary to their project.

He's been criticised for not paying enough attention to jewish history in Poland but, as he says, other authors have done a lot about it and so he does not need to do so much. However, he does bring up things which are often obscured because many historians focus almost exclusively on it.

One example was about riots in cities like £odż in the first half of the 20th Century. These are often cited as pogroms and anti-Jewish riots, however Davies points out, other nationalities/ethnicities were also targetted, especially Ukrainians. This would suggest the riots were not specifically anti-Jewish as opposed to 'anti-foreigner' or 'anti-cheap-labourer'. This can bring whole new interpretations to the events arther than just being labelled 'anti-Jewish pogroms'.
Trevek   
21 May 2009
History / World War II - a tragic story for Poland and the World [489]

I was at a seminar in Oswiecim recently and a Polish guy wanted (wants) to do a whole series of conferences exploring the positive areas of Polish/German relationships through history. As one guy said, for many years/centuries the border was one of the most stable in Europe and there was a lot of cross-cultural pollenation.

Could be fun.
Trevek   
20 May 2009
Life / So it's hit me too, isolation in Poland [46]

I don't think normal homesickness is a mental condition (I know you don't mean that but it made me smile).

The thing is, what is 'normal' homesickness? In these cases you were amongst people who were roughly the same culture 9can I use the words 'culture' and 'Birmingham' in the same sentence?) and probably operated on the same wavelength a lot.

I've lived abroad, in varying levels of isolation, and one of the tings I miss isn't food, people, TV etc... it's the chance to talk rubbish. Many of my Polish friends think I always have wonderful, intelligent conversation (or at least that's what they tell me) but what I really want to do is talk utter rubbish and stupid, pointless conversation.

Hard to do in another language or with folk who don't necessarily get it in a second language. Some jokes or comments just don't work.

Also, there is the point that you can't always find someone to off-load on (ah, the joy of the internet!) and if you try it with your local colleagues they might think something is wrong, that they've done something, when it is not necessarily anything big.
Trevek   
20 May 2009
History / Poland: dont blame us its the Germans. [174]

The Polish 1931 census (from Wiki seems) to indicate that the Ukranians were a larger ethnic minority than Jews in Poland?

It is interesting that between the wars Polish ethnologists spent a great deal of time and effort 'proving' that groups like the Lemko and Hutsul were polish and spoke Polish dialects. Come 1947 and Akcja Wisła these groups were redefined 'Ukrainian'.
Trevek   
20 May 2009
History / Heretics Asylum - The First Republic of Poland [50]

It was around the late 16th Century. The Jesuit college in Braniewo was co-founded by a Scottish Jesuit. There is a small chapel in the village of Lubomino which was built by a Scot who had had to flee his homeland because of religious troubles. Of course, just because he was Scottish doesn't mean he lived in Scotland, he might have been living in a Scottish community south of the border.
Trevek   
20 May 2009
History / World War II - a tragic story for Poland and the World [489]

"Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?"

Something which still rang true until recently when they refused to include the Armenians in the Genocide day in case it offended the Turks.
Trevek   
20 May 2009
History / Heretics Asylum - The First Republic of Poland [50]

Calvinsm was more popular in Poland than Lutheranism because Polish protestants didn't want to take examples from Germany.

Probably why so many Scots travelled there.
Trevek   
20 May 2009
History / Heretics Asylum - The First Republic of Poland [50]

So how did Poland go from accepting all these Calvinists and Quakers, Muslims and Menonites to being almost entirely Roman Catholic?

It developed after the carving up of Poland. Protestantism and Eastern Orthodoxy were the faiths most connected with Germany and Russia. The Polish identity during the non-Poland years was kept alive and shaped by predominantly RC writers and philosophers. Catholicism itself could be seen as a form of resistance in "Russian" Poland.

Following WW2 Protestantism was equated with German/Nazi/Plebiscite traitors, hence the largely Protestant population of Mazury felt it a good idea to move, and many ethnic germans (protestants) were shipped out too. Orthodox groups like the Ukranians, Lemko etc were shifted about (some to Ukraine) while Catholic Poles were shipped in.
Trevek   
20 May 2009
History / World War II - a tragic story for Poland and the World [489]

1939 was a point where you could bend Germany over like a red headed stepchild,

Haha, never heard that one before!
Problem was, that by 1939 Germany had been allowed to rearm and had been given substantial industrial regions and factories (Skoda factory in Czech, for one) and had also been practising a bit in Spain during the civil war.

Wasnt Danzig one of the old Teutonic strongholds? Im sure I read somewhere of british knights heading there as part of a papal approved crusade in the 12th C....

They did indeed, inclusing a number of Scottish knights (one of whom, Sir Douglas, was killed in a duel with English knights). By 17th C about 30% of Gdansk was of Scottish heritage.
Trevek   
20 May 2009
Life / Would you intervene in a mugging on a street in Poland? [16]

Be very careful about intervening in a fight in the street. Call the police before you lift a finger.

A friend of mine was attacked whilst standing in the queue of a fast food kiosk. He was attacked by a gang for no apparent reason (later it was suggested that they'd heard his British accent), kicked to the ground and used as a dance floor.

The cops just stood and watched. They didn't even come down to ask if he was OK after the thugs had moved on.
Trevek   
19 May 2009
Life / So it's hit me too, isolation in Poland [46]

Personally Ive never made a friend at the gym

That's the thing... I never actually made 'friends' as such, but did get to know folk by sight. It felt like I was part of something, even if I rarely spoke to them. Since the gym put up it's fees again I didn't bother.

Oh yes. Especially the idiots who enjoy Nordic Walking around your average commie Osiedle.

I'm not a nordic walker, and we have loads of forests around Olsztyn, but your own life must be a bit lacking if they provoke such a reaction in you... maybe you secretly yearn to get two sticks and...
Trevek   
19 May 2009
Life / So it's hit me too, isolation in Poland [46]

So, gym, Polish classes and getting out there is the plan.

I joined a gym and enjoyed nodding to people who also nodded to me, however, I also joined a martial arts club for a while and enjoyed the banter and cameradier (I know, not spelt correctly). Have you thought about joining something like a walking club (Nordic walking seems the in thing) or something like a reading group (bet they'd love to have a native speaker).

When I was in Macedonia I found it hard to do things if I didn't instigate them as there was a process of thought, "We wondered if you'd like to join us on a hill walk but we didn't ask in case you didn't!" Poland's nowhere near that bad but I have found it helps if you approach and join, then folk will come up and make themselves known to you.
Trevek   
15 May 2009
Life / How much do you HATE POLISH PEOPLE and POLAND [1260]

Pushing people into trains is hardly the model of harmony.

It reduces the non-harmony of idiots who stand wondering and getting in the way of everyone else. Could do with a few in Poland at bus-stops and such!
Trevek   
15 May 2009
Life / How much do you HATE POLISH PEOPLE and POLAND [1260]

white aryan:
But it angers me when get tanked up on vodka and act the bollox in a country that they are a guest in.

lol, like Brits and Irish in Krakow...

What a fuc#ing oxymoron

morons being the particularly accurate part.