Language / The final "ę" [29]

Oct 29, 09, 23:04 - Thread attached on merging:
Pronouncing the final ę

What do the native Polish speakers say about the pronounciation of the final ę? Is there a faint touch of nasality in widzę, kocham cię, daj tę książkę or is it a nomral, totally non-nasal e: widze, kocham cie, daj te książke?

You hear both amongst different speakers. Some priests go overboard with the nasality during sermons.
ALso, does this vary from region to region?

News / THE HOMINTERN IN POLAND? [80]

Nobody is protesting against private consenual sexual activity performed in privacy, but that is hardly the description of radical homo activists trying to brainwash school children without their parents' knowledge or loud and lewd homo parades disturbing the peace.

Food / Polish comfort food [12]

To two people fully agree on which comfort foods are best. I personally have always enjoyed zacierki na mleku (flour noodles cooked in hot milk), the simpelst of dishes which my late gran used to prepare.

Life / BEING POLISH MEANS....? [18]

Our American food & wine expert, the late John Beard, was famous for saying: buy the cheapest wine you find acceptable. In other words, be guided by taste and value, not snobbery or price. In line with that advice, I have found Sakar Sophia Cabernet Sauvignon sold in Poland fairly nice. Especially at the price last year of 7.60 zł per 750 ml bottle. It's probably a bit more now, since I understand the PO gang have upped the excise tax.

News / THE HOMINTERN IN POLAND? [80]

You apparently have a highly selective view of reality. Why is it that when a NY museum displayed a crucifux in a jar of urine, those who protested that it offended their relgious sensibilities were laughed off as bigots oblivious to a bold artistic experiment.

When someone daubs a wall with a star of David on a gallows, that is anti-Semitism.
When someone warns of the dangers to society of aggressive homo-promotion -- that is homophobia. Orwell, anyone?
Read up a bit: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Christian_sentiment

News / THE HOMINTERN IN POLAND? [80]

When someone is forced to explain to his 5-year-old son why all those funny looking lewdly gyrating, feather, wig and make-up blokes are riding platforms through the streets to the tune of deafening techno rhythms, that is no longer "people's private business" but a public display being forced upon hapless bystanders and residents.

No Catholic adoption agency in Britain forced some other agency to stop placing innocent orphans into unstable homo-partnerships, but someone tried to force a Catholic adoption agency to do so and effectively put it out of business.

Parents are responsible for kids' rearing until they reach the age of majority. Hence parents are within their rights to block unwanted Internet content for their offspring and monitor his/her conduct and social conducts, set curfews, etc. No teacher has the right to clandestinely indoctrinate schoolchildren contrary to their parents' beliefs and moral values as the radical homo agitators are doing.

The Homintern is trying its damnedest to subvert the Catholic Church, the Boy Scouts and other organisations which surely have the right to their own beliefs and values. If the homo gang is so much in need of religious solace, there are plenty of homophiliac denominations to choose from. Besides, they can always set up their own church or some outdoorsy youth movement that promotes promiscuity.

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And why is homophobia worse than Christian-bashing or Christophobia? There is more and more of that around these days. Perhaps the patron of the Homintern is Orwell who once wrote: Everybody is equal except that some are equal than others.

Genealogy / Tarnowice vs Tarnow - Polish town names [10]

You've got Tarnowice in the heading and Tarnowce in the text. Couldn't find Tarnowice, Tarnowce is some tiny obscure village, but there are six localities called Tarnowiec. Could that have been what you were looking for?

Incidentally the "tarn-" root comes from tarnina (sloeberry) -- the stuff Brits use to make sloe gin.

News / THE HOMINTERN IN POLAND? [80]

In terms of ubiquitousness, pervasivesness, frequency and sheer propaganda volume is today's world really threatened by the Christian right? Isn't it actually the LIBERTINE FUNDAMENTALISTS who are throwing their weight around and trying to force their pro-homo, pro-abortion, anti-family and anti-Christian notions down everybody's throat?

Life / BEING POLISH MEANS....? [18]

The point is that Korean, German, Hungarian, American, Italian, Bulagrian and French connections WERE mentioned, whilst Polish ones were not. Does the 'modern world' mean that Poles must become a land of non-owning mercenaries employed by foreign interests? Hell, even the Żywiec beer, Wedel chocoalates, Sobieski vodka, Krakus ham and Winiary mayonnaise consumed Poles are all foreign-owned.

Life / Gender roles in Polish culture [7]

Would you agree or disagree that Poles are amongst the world's most hen-pecked males?

Life / Traditional Polish Music - Where can I find some? [25]

In rural areas of the Opole region of SE Poland, there is (or used to be) a tradition of house-to-house visits called Mikiołaje on or around 6 Dec. The revellers -- the bishop Święty Mikołaj plus a whole menagerie of charatcers: priest, solider, doctor, gypsy, Jew, etc. make their annual rounds and receive treats in return.

Is anybody on PF from the Opole region and/or has witnessed this custom personally?

Life / Gender roles in Polish culture [7]

All I can say is that Polish feminists (some call them femi-fascists!!!) are a bunch of two-faced, conniving schemers and hypocrites. They want parity in parliamentary elections (the same number of male and female candidates), they're always on about being under represented in government, management posts, academia and the professions. Why is it you never hearing them clamouring for equal employment as dustmen (or is it dustpersons?!), ditch-diggers, coal-miners and other such occupations?!

Food / Foreign foods in Krakow - where to buy kangaroo meat, Vegemite? [28]

Just out of curiosity, what does kangaroo meat taste like? What is it comparble to in taste, texture, colour, aroma? Tough and gamey?
Is Australia still swarming with rabbits? Are they not eaten? Rabbit meat is not only delicious but very healthy (lean, low or no cholesterole) and versatile?

Food / Polish & American yeast and baking powder? [5]

Merged: POLISH AND AMERICAN FRESH YEAST NOT THE SAME?

Many Polish raised cake recipes call for 5 dekagrams of fresh yeast which seems like a lot compared to the amoint of American (eg Fleischmann's) yeast prescribed. That suggests that Polish yeast by quantity has less rising power or, conversely, the Amerrican stuff has more.

Anyone know if there is some conversion -- not in terms of quantity put potency?
Such as 1 oz American fresh yeast = 1.5, 1.7, 1.9 oz Polish yeast in rising power?

Food / Polish comfort food [12]

Pierogi, gołąbki, bigos, naleśniki, kiełbasa, barszcz, kapuśniak, krupnik, grochówka, pomidorówka, zupa grzybowa, żur....are but a few examples of what most Diaspora Poles regard as comfort foods.

For those with a sweet tooth also: tort, babka, placek drożdżowy, sernik, karpatka, muryznek, pączki, faworki, strucle z makiem lub owocami, kogiel-mogiel, ryż z jabłkami, szarlotka, placek śliwkowy z kruszonką, zupa nic, kołaczyki, kremówki, kisiel, kompot....

Life / Polish Mass traditions [17]

These are usually parish announcements but may also concern other religious or cultural events of potential interest to parishioners. It might also be an announcement issued by the local diocese. Some Polish priests also give a little pep talk urging worshippers to abide by the tenets of their faith throughout the coming week.

Genealogy / The Name "Szumilas" [5]

Szumilas can also be translated as Rustlewood.

Life / Polish Name Day celebration [40]

What days do people who do not have patron saints celebrate their namedays? Was this arbitrarily established by someone? If so, by whom and when?

For instance, to my knowledge there never was a saint Grażyna, Mariola, Violetta, Lesław,
Jagoda, Zdzisław, Mścisław, etc., but some calendar publishers include them nevertheless.

Life / BULLYING IN UK AND POLAND? [8]

I once read a quote by Winston Churchill who suggested that bulying was something quintessentially typical of the English school. It can occur anywhere, just like people in Bolivia and Russia can drink tea with milk, but most don't. To reiterate, is bullying some kind of special cornerstone of English educational practice?

Life / BULLYING IN UK AND POLAND? [8]

But "znęcać się" has a wider meaning than bullying, doesn't it.
Re the sentence "Mąż pijak znęca się nad rodziną..."
wouldn't we speak of domestic violence or physical abuse rather than bullying.

News / Polish Keyboard with the Polish alphabet? [30]

The programmer's is beign pushed by the mega-retailers for their own convenience (easier to import one type of keybaord), but as far as the user is concerned double-typing and ALT-fumbling is a fact of life. As is the absence of the other charcters I mentioned.

As for speed-typing, 214 wins hands down.

News / Polish Keyboard with the Polish alphabet? [30]

Unless you're a programmer your best bet is the Polish typist's keboard #214.
The progrmamer's keyboard requires you to strike two keys for every Polish letter, for instance: ALT + the unaccented L to get £, ALT + unaccented e to get ę, and the same double typing for the remaining 16 Polish characters.

The 214 has all the Polish characters right up on the keyboard - no ALT-fumbling required!
Plus the 214 has other useful characters such as the German umlaut and ß, French accents, ° (degree sign), § (paragraph mark) and others engraved on the keytops.

I have used both - programmer's and typist's - and typist's is much more straight forward and a real pleasure to use.

Language / TELEPHONE GENDER WOES? [11]

OK. How about this one: Czy pan/pani osobiście zna pana £apszczyńskiego?

Food / Recipe for mushroom and cream filled pierogi [5]

There couldn't have been too much cream in those mushroom pieorgi, otherwise the peirogi would be ahrd to seal and the cream would have flowed out during cooking. Perhaps a dab as a kind of adhesive....

Try this, fry up 1 lb (450 g) washed, dried, finely diced Portobello mushrooms with a finely chopped onion in 2-3 tabelspoons unsalted butter, stirring constantly. When nicely browned (10-12 minutes), stir in a tablespoon of sour cream and enough plain bread crumbs to make a firm filling. salt & pepper to rasre and (ptional) add a tablespoon of finely chopped fresh dill. Use mixture to stuff pierogi. If you try it, let us know how they turned out!

Life / PYTA ANYONE? [11]

How in the world did this thread get mischannelled into a Jewish direction? I'm sure some Jews give their kids an occasional loving whack when they deserve it, whilst others do not -- same as anyone else. I wouldn't be the least surprised if in a discussion on the virtues of different brands of orange juice, someone mentioned that made with oranges from Haifa, and Haifa is in Israel, and Israel means Jews and Jews means Auschwitz....???