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14 year old rape victim from Warsaw denied abortion! [348]
In Poland, women tend to wait for the right man to come along and then they plan their kids. Or are you going to tell me otherwise, Lesser?
I would wish to see everybody here respecting teaching of the CC but people are far from being perfect. Or are you going to tell me otherwise, Seanus?
You are too hung up on murder which is lame. The point is, how could a self respecting legal system condone abortion if it thought it to be murderous? They clearly don't and please ask yourself why not.
Current legal systems in western world are nothing more than worthless pieces of leftist state of mind. I question such regulations in many other points a swell. This is not an argument.
I don't want innocent life taken.
Perhaps you don't understand the meaning of your own words?
What part of genetics don't you understand?
Do you deny than featus have the same DNA code as newborn baby? Do you deny that this newborn baby will have the same DNA code 50 years later? Do you deny that human life is a process? Please answer!
What part of genetics don't you understand? I wouldn't blame the kid but the kid was a mistake. What crazy notion do you have? To spend your whole life raising a kid borne out of rape??? Is it really your kid? You are bordering on the absurd here, Lesser.
Seanus, you are really sure that you are not a mistake? Perhaps we need to send a death squad to sort this out? :) I hope that you will never adopt any kid because with your purely animal sense of being father such child would be very unhappy. Can you imagine that there are plenty of people with more sense that you, who have no problems to accept as
their child who is not biologically
their. Greatness of humankind origin from the fact that many of us were able to raise above from just purely biological instincts.
Honour killing issues were explored in a Star Trek episode. Again, it's exercising choice and there are many situations where it is defensible. What barbarity?? Those countries don't legislate solely for Muslims you know, LOL
I hope that this
LOL in the end means that you are just joking and you don't approve honour killings.
The 'child' doesn't have a developed personality and will be dead before it even knows anything about its environment or feels pain.
Does a newborn baby have developed personality? Perhaps killing them as well, some leftists already advocate such idea. Do you have developed personality?
So you see rape as serious yet you won't let a woman forget about it by aborting? Hypocrite!! It is serious, of course!!
Because this would contain a murder of innocent life. While women will never forget it and this is another reason for trauma. You are a hypocrite yourself because you failed to comment this issue. Seanus, be honest with yourself, you hide behind supposed good of a women just to cover your own laziness and egoism. This is about you unwilling to be a male of humankind (the one who is not lead solely by biological instincts).
I don't know which articles you've been reading, but it couldn't be much further from the truth.
Really? abortionreview.org/index.php/site/article/594/
This is of course far from final goal by as I said earlier Rome was not build in one day.
(1 out of 7 women have had an abortion.)
I would send congratulations but apparently I'm not sick enough to consider this to be a success story.
9 months and then her life as the kid would serve as a reminder.
Nonsense, when she accept child then her perspective would be very different.
This kid which Lesser adores from a righteous point of view, how would he feel? Oh, my father was a rapist everyone, aren't I great?
Again you push guilt if biological father on child. Such child would not have any contact with rapist, would be raised by other man accepted as father. This is just your another try to cover your personal weaknesses. Admit it!
M-G and I value life
That is a lie.
Yes, some women regret having abortions. For many the regret is transitory but for a tragic percentage (not the majority from any research I know of) it becomes a serious problem and the need counselling to work through it. But it's their problem, not yours, not mine.
You have wrote before:
Again, [b]my primary concerns are minimalizing the traumatic effects of rape on the woman [/b]
You seems to changed your approach...
I believe in choice and I realize that means some women will make the wrong choice. Freedom isn't necessarily easy or hazard free.
This is liberal ABC that freedom of one person cannot go against freedom of other people.
A non-sentient non-viable fetus is not a baby and does not have the moral status of a baby and I know of no philosophical or ethical system that really thinks it is.
Your moral and philosophical concepts are nowhere where science is. As I replied to Seanus, human life is a process. Mind you that not so long ago some socialists in Germany claimed that the Jews don't have moral status of a human. This claim also completely ignore science and is based on flawed philosophical theory of racialist supremacy.
My own rubicon in terms of abortion is viability (roughly: the ability of the fetus to survive on its own without extraordinary medical intervention).
Mind you that newborn baby wont survive on its own as well! Neither some sick (even temporary) people would survive without help.
let's be conservative
At least be honest with terminology. Be
leftist without respect of human life.