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Why are Polish politicians so bad at accepting bribes?


poleaxe 2 | 32  
5 Oct 2009 /  #1
Miroslaw Drzewiecki is the latest in a long line of Polish politicians to be caught red handed...

The question is why do we routinely see them caught so easily with bundles of cash or taped phone calls?

Corruption is endemic in a fair proportion of the world, yet other folk seem to understand the rules.. off-shore bank accounts and no direct contacts...

Surely it isnt rocket science to take bungs!

Getting caught being bent isnt wrong, its plain stupid in the 21st Century..
gumishu 13 | 6,134  
5 Oct 2009 /  #2
well they weren't caught accepting bribes actually - but it is quite possible they did - however this is not the thing - the thing is they were reportedly but to some extent arguably working against the interests of the state

Getting caught being bent isnt wrong, its plain stupid in the 21st Century..

we should then be thankful to God we have such arrogant and at the same time ignorant politicians

off-shore bank accounts

this shows something has to be done about these too - say serious embargos enforced
lesser 4 | 1,311  
5 Oct 2009 /  #3
Poland is deeply corrupt, anybody working close to public sector know it very well. This is unfortunately all-European thing, when bureaucrats have too much to say, corruption is unavoidable. Democratically elected politicians are mostly foolish thus often unable to get away with a crime but also relatively poor (lack of any achievements before entering politics), so they are willing to take almost every single banknote offered.

to some extent arguably working against the interests of the state

...and this interest of state comes against interest of Polish taxpayers. Anyway this situation is quite funny, I read somewhere that if you wish to witness how PO realize their political program (lower taxes) you must bribe their leadership. :)

we should then be thankful to God we have such arrogant and at the same time ignorant politicians

So this is God the one who elected them? Should I thank you? :)

this shows something has to be done about these too - say serious embargos enforced

If you target bank secrecy to caught corrupt politicians, you also let the state to invigilate the rest of the society. This is not the way, the only way to reduce corruption is to reduce competences of bureaucratic apparatus.
gumishu 13 | 6,134  
5 Oct 2009 /  #4
If you target bank secrecy to caught politicians, you also let the state to invigilate the rest of the society.

to me the price seems a bargain
Wroclaw 44 | 5,379  
5 Oct 2009 /  #5
Why are Polish politicians so bad at accepting bribes?

they are good at accepting bribes. and bad at getting caught.
lesser 4 | 1,311  
5 Oct 2009 /  #6
to me the price seems a bargain

I know, socialists (including PiS supporters) are always the first to sacrifice freedom in the name of some cause that they consider honourable. This is why they should be kept as far away from politics as possible.
southern 74 | 7,074  
5 Oct 2009 /  #7
Why are Polish politicians so bad at accepting bribes?

Because they are very far from Switzerland.
Marek11111 9 | 808  
5 Oct 2009 /  #8
the reason is in Poland they are called bribes in other country they called campaign contributions, all politicians are corrupted.
Seanus 15 | 19,674  
5 Oct 2009 /  #9
A large part of it stems from the indifference and acceptance of everyday Poles. They just shrug or make that high-pitch noise and turn a blind eye, flapping their arms.

If there were severe penalties, they'd think twice.
OP poleaxe 2 | 32  
5 Oct 2009 /  #10
So a 10 year stretch for proven corruption could be an answer seanus...

Unfortunately corruption is a way of life here- visiting Govt offices for various legal paperwork is a good example... you are quoted 2 months or 2 days depending on how helpful you can be for them
Seanus 15 | 19,674  
5 Oct 2009 /  #11
Well, if the crime of bribery is waivered then you are encouraging all manner of people to do it. Politicians wheedle in all kinds of ways anyway. They can wheich your money and take a bribe for their daring ;)
wildrover 98 | 4,441  
6 Oct 2009 /  #12
Why are Polish politicians so bad at accepting bribes?

How much did you offer them...? i find they won,t do very much for less than 20 zloty...
gumishu 13 | 6,134  
6 Oct 2009 /  #13
hahahah - that is good humour I say :)
OP poleaxe 2 | 32  
6 Oct 2009 /  #14
Agree seanus . So a 5 year stretch for those soliciting bribery and those accepting.

Unfortunately difficult to prove beyond reasonable doubt-the legal defence teams would have a field day making up reasons why 2 guys so happened to be a room together with 200tys zl in an envelope.....
Seanus 15 | 19,674  
6 Oct 2009 /  #15
Wildrover is a sharp-witted man, still alive and kicking on the forum :)
gumishu 13 | 6,134  
6 Oct 2009 /  #16
Unfortunately difficult to prove beyond reasonable doubt-the legal defence teams would have a field day making up reasons why 2 guys so happened to be a room together with 200tys zl in an envelope.....

if there is a will there is a way :):):)

be positive man

don't give in to doubts :) ;)
ShawnH 8 | 1,497  
6 Oct 2009 /  #17
I ran into a politician in Poland. She wouldn't let me use the loo unless I greased her palm with a zloty, she was so insistent on it. It went against my morals, but I coughed up because it was urgent.

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