History / PIŁSUDSKI & BANDERA? [11]

I think Ukrainians don't have any ill feelings towards Pilsudski at all. On the other hand, UPA leader Bandera is like a sore on every Polish I have ever met. I have lived in Ukraine for 19 years since my birth and first time I heard about Pilsudsky - just as a political figure and nothing to do with independance fight etc. - was when I was older and not in Ukraine. From what I have noticed in Polish connaisances I had, Bandera is already a part of Polish everyday vocabulary. I think Poles should overcome their feelings and learn to move on. If we would be constantly talking about how poor and saint Polish were in Wolyn' and in Ukraine in general or how bad English are for, supposedly, not inviting Poles to some parade, we will die of boredom. As someone recommended around here - self-reflection and mirror-gazing is of great value to evolve as a nation.

Regarding the bike rally - that's fine and it is not the right time to do something like this even though it was 100 anniversary of Stepan Bandera. Smart move on Polish part - neither side needs tension nowadays. We have other, much more important things to do. And definately more Ukraine than Poland.

News / French and Poles [146]


S., have some dignity. MG showed you some examples which marred a bit your Polish sainthood, the holiest nation in the world. So what? St. Francis was a sinner as well, but through hard work you will be able to clean yourself and become the holiest country of all again. I have no doubt in that.

News / Rydzyk gets away with racism yet again [198]


Who cares what his environment is? Do you think I can do similar things and later in court say that: "Listen, this is not my forte, I am from another "environment"" and be justified?

Being a bishop, I would kick that ass out of the church. I wish that Rydzyk had a chance to see his "beloved" Jesus and the way he looked and stank. If this is what resides in Czestochowa, then what we can say of other sanctuaries? What an example of so-called follower of Christ who washed feet of his desciples, whereas that joke-priest made these unacceptable racist remarks.

Some of you begin to compare him with other political figures in order to justify Rydzyk. Why? Is this the way to deal with similar things - see whether there was a worse scenario and if this is the case let the perpetrator go, because he was not AS RACIST as someone before him. It is ridiculous and immature.

Also how can deep knowledge of Polish or being a native speaker make you think that by translating his words we are losing "innocent joke the poor old priest saintfully uttered upon the herd in his native Polish"? Is your language that sophisticated that even simple text becomes untranslatable correctly, with full meaning?

History / Who lost WWII (besides Poland)? [42]

Ukraine - lost 7.5 million people. My country was completely devastated. If you take that the total death toll was 60-70 million people killed (incredibly horrible number), more than 10% of these were Ukrainians.

I hope nothing similar will ever occur again. It is horror.

News / French and Poles [146]


I knew you were bluffing. I asked you to give me a few names of historians you read and you refused. How low is that? I don't need books written by UPA veterans or any Ukrainian historian. I didn't ask for that. Anyhow, PK, I wasn't expecting much anyway from you ;)

News / French and Poles [146]


I am not surprised because you have nothing to "sell". Lies, maybe, I won't buy them. Regarding reputable historians - would you mind name a few so I can check them out?

News / French and Poles [146]


Pardon ;)

News / French and Poles [146]

You wish to be able to say for a second that Nathan was tolerated by you. Haha. And even that is impossible :)

French and Poles: if you please.

News / French and Poles [146]


I would recommend you do the same. But this time pick something better than Polish "historical" books decorating non-existant religious or ethnic tolerance in Commonwealth. These stories you may tell only to Poles (they are majority here, you are correct about that), but to other people be kind not to sell these fairy-tales about "saint and tolerant" Poland. That's simply BS.

History / Poland and Lithuania [161]



Ok, here you mention a "target" towards which historically we were all converging - Liberal, Free-Market Democracy. As far as I can see, it says nothing about cultural, linguistic or other ethnical components you are trying to apply to this so-called "convergence". As I mentioned before in 17th century Ukraine had more primary schools than Moskovy and CW together taken. Later on they were forcefully destroyed or converted in Moskovite or Polish Jesuit schools which taught your dialects. Forceful religious installation on the newly conquered territories and religious freedom your constitution claims is usual fairy-tale story. If you invade a country and make your language the only acceptable form to work and deal business in, the upper classes, which usually are after money, will switch like a haircut. Peasants and small merchants remained unfallible carriers of Lithuanian and Ukrainian cultures and languages through centuries, though. If you are willing to call this as your "widespread and willing convergence process" - well, you are entitled to have an opinion. Btw, if you could give a link to cultural and religious target convergence, it would be greatly appreciated. Let's not mix free-market and language or if we do, then some scientific support might be of value.


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution


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I thought you were a human, no? ;)

Equinox, would you also give me an answer about your Petri dish theory of Polish nation convergence and about modern-day Polish agenda CW had in the past. Any documents or testimonies? How was your drift away from other nations different from other nations' drifts?

News / Poland among the greatest enemies of Russia [112]



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Quite a tandem. I have read some Anna Politkovskaya's books. Putin is primarily the main "hero" of her documentaries. She had also some proof of Kadyrov's killings and human rights abuse. As I read again, Sasha, what you wrote, I see you don't argue about Putin's involvement in her murder, correct? Anna was murdered just 3 months before Putin instated Kadyrov as a Chechen's president as you can see from the quotes.

History / Poland and Lithuania [161]


"Target" towards which CW was converting over time? Haha. What is that? Some new theory of national "targeting" being developed by a new "historian" here. I haven't seen more preposterous statement in my life. Lithuania wasn't a "target" (what in hell does it mean?), but Poland was conceived by Mieszko or some other Zigimund and he set the course into the future, making a "target": "Right now we are CW, but in a couple of centuries we will be Poland" ;) How did it happen that Lithuania has its own culture and language, its own traditions which go back centuries and centuries? Your reasoning is not even funny. It is sad.


Petri dish? Did you have a concussion or read your first book on biology? Where have you seen a nation that is being developed untouched by other ethnicities? Was your country "targeted" in Petri dish, isolated from any influences from outside and right now Poland is something else but country were there is an ethnic mixture of peasants, mercenaries, nomads, outlaws, retards, scientists etc.? Do you want to say that Poland have or had neither of these? Or "proto" can only be said about CW in regards to Poland? You are ridiculous.


What a statement! Bravo! So you have to have some "agenda" to belong to a certain ethnic group? Did CW Poles have a modern-day "Polish" agenda? ;)


Pylyp Orlyk's Constitution of 1710, 81 years before CW's.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Pylyp_Orlyk

History / Poland and Lithuania [161]


Hi there. Lithuania is a great country. Keep up your old and fantastic culture and language.


Majority here are unable of doing that. Also they are not interested in making themselves good, they prefer to make to others bad. These people live in mythical state of mind with some ridiculous pretense on the First Constitution in Europe or proto-type of EU. Again, big mouths, small brains.

I wish all the best to Lithuania. Salut from Ukraine.

News / Bandera bike rally in Poland. [17]

I know, I am glad :)))

News / Bandera bike rally in Poland. [17]

Good call and precedent ;)

News / Precedent set in Szczecin for offending homosexuals? [60]


It is considered what it is and most often leads to a legal action. It doesn't have to be connected to religion, sex or race.

News / Precedent set in Szczecin for offending homosexuals? [60]


Absolutely.


Gossip is what you usually hear from someone who was told by someone's friend's cousin's sister-in-law. It is a different story when someone tells you in face these things.

News / Precedent set in Szczecin for offending homosexuals? [60]


Do these people take the bread from your table?
And by the way, sex is not what you have between your legs. Nor rubbing against each other can be called love. Who you are and what you feel is in your brain and that can be experienced only by the carrier, not by a drooling bystander who stupidly looks at the pants or skirts. If we are limited to define sex of a person by physical appearance, then IQ should be measured by number of freckles on the butt.

News / Poland among the greatest enemies of Russia [112]


Of course, I am Ukrainian, brate Crow. Who else can laugh at us if not we ourselves, members of a big family :)

News / Poland among the greatest enemies of Russia [112]


You are right, PK. We shouldn't invest in solar energy. Let's wait when oil price reaches the point when E8,000/person x year won't be enough and Russia again decides to close the tap amid a harsh winter. I think when we have frozen asses, our brains start to process faster. Whatever Germans invented with Desertec technology is bad for us, let's keep on burning oil like we have been doing for 150 years already cause the Earth will give us more and the air will clean itself.

History / Only two countries in Europe did not accept XVIIIc partitions of Poland.. [54]


I agree, Crow. I am starting to lose it ;)

News / Poland among the greatest enemies of Russia [112]


;)

UK, Ireland / Irish Primary schools to teach Polish [223]


And you have learning disabilities or something? Logopeds are not that expensive.


Then learn the language, dah!


I have no idea what Ukrainian community thinks about the issue. I am telling what I think. I am no knowledgeable about the subject at all. But this is what I feel is right and I am expressing it.

UK, Ireland / Irish Primary schools to teach Polish [223]


Why then Polish has to be taught in Ireland when Irish are not interested in planning to settle in Poland? As WB said:

UK, Ireland / Irish Primary schools to teach Polish [223]

I am Ukrainian - I was just pulling Magdalena's leg :) Anyway, this is how I see the issue.

Love / Could our relationship work despite the language barrier? [34]


What do you think happens to majority of married couples after they lived for awhile and got to know each other like themselves? They get often bored if there is not constantly something new. The longer the process of finding out each other's peculiarities, the more chances it has to survive for a longer time. So not knowing the language is sometimes a blessing. Love doesn't need an accelerator or electronic translator or even a tongue as Sausage put it ;) The rest of our brothers and sisters have no languages as such, but live, sing, procreate and enjoy each other nevertheless. At least try. Good luck!


It is often for the better.

UK, Ireland / Irish Primary schools to teach Polish [223]

Hi there. Magdalena is from Ireland and my name is Krzysiek and I am from Japan. I need to be confidential as well because of my job (I am a student - shhh!). Using names like Kimoto or Kawasaki would shed my disguise immediately and you would know who I am ;)

I just wanted to put in some of my thoughts into the issue. The country is Ireland, so it's primary concern should be financing its own language - Irish. The school system also should make available languages spoken predominantly in the world - English, French, Chinese, Spanish. For all those interested in any other languages should pay out of their own pockets. Why should children learn Polish and not Japanese then? For me it is simply outrageous. Mass exodus doesn't justify priority of the new language. Nobody forbids you to have your own language taught, but learn to open your own pockets and don't suck it out of the country who took you in just 5 years ago!

Love / Girl just interested, or a hooker? [30]

Use it only on these balls for your experiments. Just a friendly advice. I knew someone who used it on some other balls and he lost his sight. He had no hallucinations though.

News / I am so proud of Poland [16]


So you are sleep-talking right now?

Love / What are the perceptions of polish towards homosexuality? [106]


No. He can simply take a look at the blason on his flag. It looks like two female eagles making out ;)