Bratwurst Boy
16 Jun 2009
History / Poland before WWII or Poland now what would you choose? [390]
And then?
Should admit that such right exists ))))))))
Because its true !
Because its true !
And then?
Bratwurst Boy
15 Jun 2009
History / Russia: Poland responsible for WW II [300]
Well...at least I don't patronize the Poles when they answer in kind as you did with poor Sasha!
(Even as he was still much to nice)
Well...at least I don't patronize the Poles when they answer in kind as you did with poor Sasha!
(Even as he was still much to nice)
Bratwurst Boy
15 Jun 2009
History / Poland before WWII or Poland now what would you choose? [390]
So why talking about things you can't change anyhow?
Poles get very nervous about one little woman called Steinbach and she isn't even talking about "rights" but only remembrance.
What should the Ukrainians think or feel listening to Poles talking like you Iron?
I wasn't talking about plans to invade another country )))))) I was talking about our rights to those territories!
So why talking about things you can't change anyhow?
Poles get very nervous about one little woman called Steinbach and she isn't even talking about "rights" but only remembrance.
What should the Ukrainians think or feel listening to Poles talking like you Iron?
Bratwurst Boy
15 Jun 2009
History / Russia: Poland responsible for WW II [300]
Why?
Yes – I have been generalizing a whole Nation and him as one of its puppets on the string – that is my prerogative.
Why?
Bratwurst Boy
15 Jun 2009
History / Russia: Poland responsible for WW II [300]
Nun ja....you spoke about him directly as in:
That was very close and personal and you seem to know Sasha very well. (What a bastard he must be!)
(Even as I came to see him as a very level headed, smart guy...but that's only me)
This us against them mentality that you so quickly hide behind when Russia is criticized is precisely the complex I speak of.
Nun ja....you spoke about him directly as in:
I only find accuracy in your inferiority complex.
You romanticize and celebrate the very political establishment that murdered your citizenry by the millions and now you let your rights and natural resources be held hostage by authoritarian hands that don’t distribute the wealth appropriately – you are the ultimate example of a people mired in slavery and living with a complex that centuries forth may never erode.
You romanticize and celebrate the very political establishment that murdered your citizenry by the millions and now you let your rights and natural resources be held hostage by authoritarian hands that don’t distribute the wealth appropriately – you are the ultimate example of a people mired in slavery and living with a complex that centuries forth may never erode.
That was very close and personal and you seem to know Sasha very well. (What a bastard he must be!)
(Even as I came to see him as a very level headed, smart guy...but that's only me)
Bratwurst Boy
15 Jun 2009
History / Russia: Poland responsible for WW II [300]
I always wondered about that...can you tell me some examples when Serbia came to Polands help?
When ever had Serbia "destabilized" Russia? And if you want to how would you try to achieve it?
Erm....
What are polish interests in the Balkan?
How???
Do do what exactly???
Last time I looked the country looked very much alive and flourishing...not some isolated pariah...
I wouldn't call it "fear" :)
For what exactly?
And then? What would that change???
Would that make a serbian tiny minority a majority again?
Isn't it rather so that YOU want something from Poland but can give nothing back...why don't you start with "destabilizing" Russia in the meantime!
You are just now BEGGING Poland to annul the Kosovo recognition as you can't even do a darn thing for yourself in this case but you promise Poland you can make it a super power???? Yeah...suuuuuuuure..
What hopes would that be?
Who would help you Poels in time of your need? Who, if not Serbians?
I always wondered about that...can you tell me some examples when Serbia came to Polands help?
Who would destabilize Russia if Russia moves against Poland? Serbs, of course.
When ever had Serbia "destabilized" Russia? And if you want to how would you try to achieve it?
Who would volunterely fight for Poland if Germany attacks Poland? Serbs, of course.
Erm....
Who can defend Polish interests on Balkan, in south-eastern Europe better then Serbs?
What are polish interests in the Balkan?
Germany simply controls that fear.
How???
...but Serbians. ...they wait for Poland
Do do what exactly???
to died in silence regarded as sub-people from your false friends on so called west?
Last time I looked the country looked very much alive and flourishing...not some isolated pariah...
to did in eternal fear from Russians?
I wouldn't call it "fear" :)
You see, you need Serbs.
For what exactly?
just annul Kosovo recognition
And then? What would that change???
Would that make a serbian tiny minority a majority again?
Isn't it rather so that YOU want something from Poland but can give nothing back...why don't you start with "destabilizing" Russia in the meantime!
Sokrates:
Seriously Crow what can Poland gain on an alliance with Serbia?
you would like to learn that?
in short... Serbs are only thing that can make that Poland become superpower
Seriously Crow what can Poland gain on an alliance with Serbia?
you would like to learn that?
in short... Serbs are only thing that can make that Poland become superpower
You are just now BEGGING Poland to annul the Kosovo recognition as you can't even do a darn thing for yourself in this case but you promise Poland you can make it a super power???? Yeah...suuuuuuuure..
Those who killing us, on the long run killing Polish hopes.
What hopes would that be?
Bratwurst Boy
14 Jun 2009
History / Russia: Poland responsible for WW II [300]
Well right now I think you are telling lies...stupid ones at that...fully gulping all this conspirational crap about Bushies founding the Nazis, Bushies behind 9/11, Germans out to destroy holy Serbia since the Nazis, Germans still Nazis etc...I'm losing interest as one can't discuss seriously with someone who believes in the unreasonable!
Amuse yourself Seanie
(Crowie might join you soon anyway)
I told you the lie. The one about the concentration camp that never existed. Also about killing methods. Look at part 5 of the film for what I mean.
Well right now I think you are telling lies...stupid ones at that...fully gulping all this conspirational crap about Bushies founding the Nazis, Bushies behind 9/11, Germans out to destroy holy Serbia since the Nazis, Germans still Nazis etc...I'm losing interest as one can't discuss seriously with someone who believes in the unreasonable!
Amuse yourself Seanie
(Crowie might join you soon anyway)
Bratwurst Boy
14 Jun 2009
History / Russia: Poland responsible for WW II [300]
What details?
It speaks about a Nazi politician...the Nazi period was quickly over and Albanian was never either a collaborator nor an ally to Nazi Germany.
And after the war...well...no reason for friendship either. And to no time has Germany given land to Albania! Why did you lie Seanus?
What exactly did he say what was a lie?
Read the Neuchmann article I posted, it has all the key details.
What details?
It speaks about a Nazi politician...the Nazi period was quickly over and Albanian was never either a collaborator nor an ally to Nazi Germany.
And after the war...well...no reason for friendship either. And to no time has Germany given land to Albania! Why did you lie Seanus?
BB, Sharping lied.
What exactly did he say what was a lie?
Bratwurst Boy
14 Jun 2009
History / Russia: Poland responsible for WW II [300]
Well, as far as I know Albania fighted their occupiers in WWII and later adhered to a stalinist style of communism, even later they became much more Mao/china like....
They were pretty isolated even in the communist circles and especially in western Europe.
When did they "struck a friendship" to Germany again? And which Germany?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albania#Independence_and_recent_history
Friendship with Germany and land from Germany when exactly????
Well...everybody is free to believe what he wants.
It stops when you call german politicians as Nazis using wild conspiracy-theories!
The Albanians remained neutral with Germany and then struck up a friendship. They helped them at times and you would've known that had you read Neuchmann's account.
Well, as far as I know Albania fighted their occupiers in WWII and later adhered to a stalinist style of communism, even later they became much more Mao/china like....
They were pretty isolated even in the communist circles and especially in western Europe.
When did they "struck a friendship" to Germany again? And which Germany?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albania#Independence_and_recent_history
...
Albania was one of the first countries occupied by the Axis Powers in World War II.[32] As Hitler began his aggressions, the Italian Fascist dictator Benito Mussolini decided to occupy Albania as a means to compete with Hitler's territorial gains...
Albania was one of the first countries occupied by the Axis Powers in World War II.[32] As Hitler began his aggressions, the Italian Fascist dictator Benito Mussolini decided to occupy Albania as a means to compete with Hitler's territorial gains...
...
Post-World War II
Albania allied with the USSR, and then broke with the USSR in 1960 over de-Stalinization. A strong political alliance with China followed, leading to several billion dollars in aid, which was curtailed after 1974.
China cut off aid in 1978 when Albania attacked its policies after the death of Chinese ruler Mao Zedong. Large-scale purges of officials occurred during the 1970s.
Post-World War II
Albania allied with the USSR, and then broke with the USSR in 1960 over de-Stalinization. A strong political alliance with China followed, leading to several billion dollars in aid, which was curtailed after 1974.
China cut off aid in 1978 when Albania attacked its policies after the death of Chinese ruler Mao Zedong. Large-scale purges of officials occurred during the 1970s.
...
Albania's former Communists were routed in elections March 1992, amid economic collapse and social unrest. Sali Berisha was elected as the first non-Communist president since World War II. The next crisis occurred in 1997, as riots ravaged the country.
Victory by a pro-Berisha coalition in elections 3 July 2005, ended 8 years of Socialist Party rule. In 2009, Albania, along with Croatia, joined NATO.
Albania's former Communists were routed in elections March 1992, amid economic collapse and social unrest. Sali Berisha was elected as the first non-Communist president since World War II. The next crisis occurred in 1997, as riots ravaged the country.
Victory by a pro-Berisha coalition in elections 3 July 2005, ended 8 years of Socialist Party rule. In 2009, Albania, along with Croatia, joined NATO.
Friendship with Germany and land from Germany when exactly????
Bush was behind 9/11 and that is abundantly clear to me.
Well...everybody is free to believe what he wants.
It stops when you call german politicians as Nazis using wild conspiracy-theories!
Bratwurst Boy
14 Jun 2009
History / Russia: Poland responsible for WW II [300]
Well..as it seems the Italians had to much influence.
And the fact stands that Albania was occupied by italian troops and the Albanians fighted their occupier.
When and where did Germany give land to Albania?
Accepted, serious ones? Very doubtful!
As your connection of the Balkan campaign in the forties to the german defense minister 60 years later you mean?
Guilty by nationality? These ties are your arguments?
When will you make the hop over the border of sanity and reason and start to bark also against the "bad false west" and the born bad "germanized" Slavs who are only out to torture the real flower of mankind, the Slavs?
Yeah...why should he?
The Italians, LOL. They were not the force that the Nazis were and didn't call the shots there, sorry!
Well..as it seems the Italians had to much influence.
And the fact stands that Albania was occupied by italian troops and the Albanians fighted their occupier.
When and where did Germany give land to Albania?
Even if I stopped quoting Rense, there'd be plenty more.
Accepted, serious ones? Very doubtful!
ties are often enough.
As your connection of the Balkan campaign in the forties to the german defense minister 60 years later you mean?
Guilty by nationality? These ties are your arguments?
When will you make the hop over the border of sanity and reason and start to bark also against the "bad false west" and the born bad "germanized" Slavs who are only out to torture the real flower of mankind, the Slavs?
Why would Bush come out and admit that he killed 3000 Americans?
Yeah...why should he?
Bratwurst Boy
14 Jun 2009
History / Russia: Poland responsible for WW II [300]
Why did Roosevelt fight the Nazis???
For your links (did you actually read them)?
And the ADL was saying....
I really would refrain from quoting the rense site or the others if I were you Seanie!
They aren't valuable or helpful in a serious discussion...you could also directly quote from a serbian nationalist forum!
You are quoting a neo-nazi site, ya know....
I'm sure you can. The internet is free and hence also full of nutters!
Even as Albania was the whole time occupied by the Italians???
You mean after the Nazis had won and conquered the whole world? :)
why did Bush support the Albos?
Why did Roosevelt fight the Nazis???
For your links (did you actually read them)?
guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar
...While there is no suggestion that Prescott Bush was sympathetic to the Nazi cause, the documents reveal that the firm he worked for, Brown Brothers Harriman (BBH), acted as a US base for the German industrialist, Fritz Thyssen, who helped finance Hitler in the 1930s before falling out with him at the end of the decade.
The Guardian has seen evidence that shows Bush was the director of the New York-based Union Banking Corporation (UBC) that represented Thyssen's US interests and he continued to work for the bank after America entered the war....
The Guardian has seen evidence that shows Bush was the director of the New York-based Union Banking Corporation (UBC) that represented Thyssen's US interests and he continued to work for the bank after America entered the war....
And the ADL was saying....
...In 2003, the Anti-Defamation League responded, saying:
" Rumors about the alleged Nazi 'ties' of the late Prescott Bush ... have circulated widely through the internet in recent years.
These charges are untenable and politically motivated. Despite some early financial dealings between Prescott Bush and a Nazi industrialist named Fritz Thyssen (who was arrested by the Nazi regime in 1938 and imprisoned during the war), Prescott Bush was neither a Nazi nor a Nazi sympathizer.[8][14]
" Rumors about the alleged Nazi 'ties' of the late Prescott Bush ... have circulated widely through the internet in recent years.
These charges are untenable and politically motivated. Despite some early financial dealings between Prescott Bush and a Nazi industrialist named Fritz Thyssen (who was arrested by the Nazi regime in 1938 and imprisoned during the war), Prescott Bush was neither a Nazi nor a Nazi sympathizer.[8][14]
rense.com/general40/bushfamilyfundedhitler.htm
I really would refrain from quoting the rense site or the others if I were you Seanie!
They aren't valuable or helpful in a serious discussion...you could also directly quote from a serbian nationalist forum!
Renses's show has been noted as being among "conspiracy-oriented Internet radio shows that often feature anti-Semites and extremists" by the Anti-Defamation League, a non-profit organisation that opposes anti-semitism.[5]
You are quoting a neo-nazi site, ya know....
I can get you MANY more,
I'm sure you can. The internet is free and hence also full of nutters!
Germany united many fragments from disputed lands.
Even as Albania was the whole time occupied by the Italians???
The Committee expected the Government of the German Reich to recognise the independence of this united Greater Albania,
You mean after the Nazis had won and conquered the whole world? :)
Bratwurst Boy
14 Jun 2009
History / Russia: Poland responsible for WW II [300]
You tell alot Seanie but no facts....c'mon, gimme some!
Where and when did Germany give lands to the Albos for starters?
Well...he isn't very pretty but you really shouldn't call him a Nazi because of that! :):):)
Erm...as in "the Germans gave lands to the Albos"?
What else do they tell??? :
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albania
No Seanie, he didn't! :)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush
Stop watching such crap or you start to sound like Crowie!!! :)
You tell alot Seanie but no facts....c'mon, gimme some!
Where and when did Germany give lands to the Albos for starters?
The man, the way he looks and talks, is reminiscent of high-ranking Nazis.
Well...he isn't very pretty but you really shouldn't call him a Nazi because of that! :):):)
he got caught in his own lies by cunning Germans. Watch and learn, the video shows all.
Erm...as in "the Germans gave lands to the Albos"?
What else do they tell??? :
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albania
...During World War II, Albanian nationalist groups, including communist partisans, fought against the Italians and subsequently the Germans. By November 1944 they had thrown the Germans out, the only East European nation to do so without the assistance of Soviet troops. ...
Prescott Bush funded the Nazis
No Seanie, he didn't! :)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush
...In 2003, the Anti-Defamation League responded, saying:
" Rumors about the alleged Nazi 'ties' of the late Prescott Bush ... have circulated widely through the internet in recent years.
These charges are untenable and politically motivated. Despite some early financial dealings between Prescott Bush and a Nazi industrialist named Fritz Thyssen (who was arrested by the Nazi regime in 1938 and imprisoned during the war), Prescott Bush was neither a Nazi nor a Nazi sympathizer.[8][14]
" Rumors about the alleged Nazi 'ties' of the late Prescott Bush ... have circulated widely through the internet in recent years.
These charges are untenable and politically motivated. Despite some early financial dealings between Prescott Bush and a Nazi industrialist named Fritz Thyssen (who was arrested by the Nazi regime in 1938 and imprisoned during the war), Prescott Bush was neither a Nazi nor a Nazi sympathizer.[8][14]
Stop watching such crap or you start to sound like Crowie!!! :)
Bratwurst Boy
14 Jun 2009
History / Russia: Poland responsible for WW II [300]
Erm...I fail to see the connection.
Please help me out here!
And why can't you come up with one?
A website maybe? A book? Anything?
Well...Crowie surely likes them too...:)
Erm...we did???
Nope...can you get more clearer please?
Let's say what Wiki says:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkans_Campaign
Do you mean that?
Where and when did we gave lands to the Albos???
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albania
Sharping is part of that establishment that spouts lies. Isn't it a nice coincidence that Nazi folks of his ilk were bombing Belgrade in WWII as well?
Erm...I fail to see the connection.
Please help me out here!
They brought numerous sources.
And why can't you come up with one?
A website maybe? A book? Anything?
I happened to see those 2 Germans as credible.
Well...Crowie surely likes them too...:)
You know what happened in WWII in the Balkans, BB. They exterminated Serbs and gave land to the Albos.
Erm...we did???
See a connection??
Nope...can you get more clearer please?
Let's say what Wiki says:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkans_Campaign
In 1919, Albania's territorial integrity was confirmed at the Paris Peace Conference after United States President Woodrow Wilson dismissed a plan by the European powers to divide Albania amongst its neighbours.
On 7 April 1939, Mussolini's troops occupied Albania, overthrew Zog, and annexed the country to the Italian Empire.
The Invasion of Yugoslavia (also known as Operation 25) began on 6 April 1941 and ended with the unconditional surrender of the Royal Yugoslav Army on 17 April. The invading Axis powers (Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, Hungary, and Bulgaria) occupied and deismembered the Kingdom of Yugoslavia.
By cobbling together Bosnia and Herzegovina, some parts of Croatia, and Syrmia, the "Independent State of Croatia" (Nezavisna Država Hrvatska, NDH) was created by Germany and Italy.
In Serbia and the Banat, the puppet state "Nedić's Serbia" was created by Germany. In Montenegro, a puppet "Independent State of Montenegro" was created as an Italian protectorate.
However, the "protectorate" was nominally a kingdom even though Prince Michael of Montenegro never accepted the crow
By cobbling together Bosnia and Herzegovina, some parts of Croatia, and Syrmia, the "Independent State of Croatia" (Nezavisna Država Hrvatska, NDH) was created by Germany and Italy.
In Serbia and the Banat, the puppet state "Nedić's Serbia" was created by Germany. In Montenegro, a puppet "Independent State of Montenegro" was created as an Italian protectorate.
However, the "protectorate" was nominally a kingdom even though Prince Michael of Montenegro never accepted the crow
Do you mean that?
Where and when did we gave lands to the Albos???
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albania
...During World War II, Albanian nationalist groups, including communist partisans, fought against the Italians and subsequently the Germans. By November 1944 they had thrown the Germans out, the only East European nation to do so without the assistance of Soviet troops. ...
Bratwurst Boy
14 Jun 2009
History / Russia: Poland responsible for WW II [300]
I'm asking you about those facts!
Did they do more than just tell you that they are facts? :)
What sources did they bring?
PS: Calling Sharping a Nazi is hardly objective and also not a sign of sound research...sorry...
PPS: I can show you videos from people KNOWING that Armageddon is underway and that Jesus will come back soon...in the next ten years or so...
and of course everybody but themselves, the allknowing video maker, will die!
PPPS: Why can't Germans be lying fanatic a*ssholes too? Those wannabe terrorists now on trial in Germany who planned to kill as many innocent people as possible in the name of Allah are Germans too...
(I think they too have a video somewhere out there)
I'm asking you about those facts!
Did they do more than just tell you that they are facts? :)
What sources did they bring?
PS: Calling Sharping a Nazi is hardly objective and also not a sign of sound research...sorry...
PPS: I can show you videos from people KNOWING that Armageddon is underway and that Jesus will come back soon...in the next ten years or so...
and of course everybody but themselves, the allknowing video maker, will die!
PPPS: Why can't Germans be lying fanatic a*ssholes too? Those wannabe terrorists now on trial in Germany who planned to kill as many innocent people as possible in the name of Allah are Germans too...
(I think they too have a video somewhere out there)
Bratwurst Boy
14 Jun 2009
History / Russia: Poland responsible for WW II [300]
I won't watch a video Seanie, a film or an internet board is patient...and talk is cheap.
But I would like to study their sources (preferable not from a crowish "They are all out to kill us"-website if possible)
You mean a tiny minority of some few percent is justified using violence and arms to opress a majority of over 90 percent?
Is it that what you want to say?
Thanks for the addition, Mod. BB is German but you are right. English to reinforce the fact that the account was the same. I spotted a couple of mistakes today in translation between English and Polish and it can be costly.
I won't watch a video Seanie, a film or an internet board is patient...and talk is cheap.
But I would like to study their sources (preferable not from a crowish "They are all out to kill us"-website if possible)
However i'm saying thay military intervention, wiping out armed opposition and putting Albanians into place by aiming a tank at their house was completely justified and reasonable, what they did afterwards was not.
You mean a tiny minority of some few percent is justified using violence and arms to opress a majority of over 90 percent?
Is it that what you want to say?
Bratwurst Boy
14 Jun 2009
History / Russia: Poland responsible for WW II [300]
"still much worse off than Poland"???
Erm...are you sharing the same reality with me here Sokrates? :)
Do you really believe Poland lives in a happy bubble?
Germany and Poland are going to be such intertwined in the coming years you better pray Germany is going to be well!
If you call that a "pretty myth" how would you call Serbians reasoning!
The fact that without the new borders, Germany losing 1/4 of their territory, millions placed now in new hostile countries as opressed minorities there wouldn't had been a Hitler or WWII?
That Europe would had been better off in the end without a Poland?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Versailles
Wilson's friend Edward Mandell House, present at the negotiations, wrote in his diary on 29 June 1919:
Just a myth for our smart Sokrates?
But of course Sokrates knows better....
Understandable...
Astounding again as you see Serbian wish for a greater Serbia at the cost of their co-yugoslavs is an acceptable reason for you but Germany's even more dramatic and drastic changes brought on them from the outside are not...
But then...what else to expect!
Depends on who started what sh*it...
And still much worse off than Poland
"still much worse off than Poland"???
Erm...are you sharing the same reality with me here Sokrates? :)
Do you really believe Poland lives in a happy bubble?
Germany and Poland are going to be such intertwined in the coming years you better pray Germany is going to be well!
As for your pretty myths
If you call that a "pretty myth" how would you call Serbians reasoning!
you sticking to Versailles, Poles sticking to the facts
The fact that without the new borders, Germany losing 1/4 of their territory, millions placed now in new hostile countries as opressed minorities there wouldn't had been a Hitler or WWII?
That Europe would had been better off in the end without a Poland?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Versailles
Wilson's friend Edward Mandell House, present at the negotiations, wrote in his diary on 29 June 1919:
...To those who are saying that the treaty is bad and should never have been made and that it will involve Europe in infinite difficulties in its enforcement, I feel like admitting it.
But I would also say in reply that empires cannot be shattered, and new states raised upon their ruins without disturbance.
To create new boundaries is to create new troubles. The one follows the other. While I should have preferred a different peace,..
But I would also say in reply that empires cannot be shattered, and new states raised upon their ruins without disturbance.
To create new boundaries is to create new troubles. The one follows the other. While I should have preferred a different peace,..
Just a myth for our smart Sokrates?
French Field Marshal Ferdinand Foch, who felt the restrictions on Germany were too lenient, declared, "This is not Peace. It is an Armistice for twenty years."[23]
But of course Sokrates knows better....
i'm seriously going to puke if i have to discuss this particular topic.
Understandable...
doesnt cover the details of what Albanians did to Serbs, of course Serbian responce was absolutely clumsy and they've shot themselves in the foot by commiting genocide but military intervention alone was fully justified.
Astounding again as you see Serbian wish for a greater Serbia at the cost of their co-yugoslavs is an acceptable reason for you but Germany's even more dramatic and drastic changes brought on them from the outside are not...
But then...what else to expect!
imagine that the Swiss start carting off their German citizens into the woods, burning them in barns and such and tell me Germany wouldnt invade.
Depends on who started what sh*it...
Bratwurst Boy
14 Jun 2009
History / Russia: Poland responsible for WW II [300]
Well...we will still be far more populous than Poland...:)
Germany's "fabrication of reasons":
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Versailles
Mean Germans! How dare they to protest!!!
Here now how Serbia was "pushed to the edge by Albanians":
Poor Serbians...
I have no idea what exactly will happen but i can make a reasonable prognosis based on the fact that for example your country is facing an absolutely drastic decline, you will lose over 20 milion
Well...we will still be far more populous than Poland...:)
Germany would start a war anyway, the fabrication of reasons shows that that Germany was already on the edge and needed justification for an already existing mindset, Serbia was pushed to the edge by Albanians and lack of appropriate reaction of the international community.
Germany's "fabrication of reasons":
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Versailles
Germany was compelled to yield control of its colonies, and would also lose a number of European territories.
The province of West Prussia would be ceded to the restored Poland, thereby granting it access to the Baltic Sea via the "Polish Corridor" which Prussia had annexed in the Partitions of Poland, and turning East Prussia into an exclave, separated from mainland Germany
The province of West Prussia would be ceded to the restored Poland, thereby granting it access to the Baltic Sea via the "Polish Corridor" which Prussia had annexed in the Partitions of Poland, and turning East Prussia into an exclave, separated from mainland Germany
Mean Germans! How dare they to protest!!!
Here now how Serbia was "pushed to the edge by Albanians":
...
Serbian communist leader Slobodan Milošević sought to restore pre-1974 Serbian sovereignty. Other republics, especially Slovenia and Croatia, denounced this move as a revival of great Serbian hegemonism. Milošević succeeded in reducing the autonomy of Vojvodina and of Kosovo and Metohija, but both entities retained a vote in the Yugoslav Presidency Council. The very instrument that reduced Serbian influence before was now used to increase it: in the eight member Council, Serbia could now count on four votes minimum - Serbia proper, then-loyal Montenegro, and Vojvodina and Kosovo.
As a result of these events, the ethnic Albanian miners in Kosovo organized strikes, which dovetailed into ethnic conflict between the Albanians and the non-Albanians in the province. At 87% of the population of Kosovo in the 1980s, ethnic-Albanians were the majority. ...
Serbian communist leader Slobodan Milošević sought to restore pre-1974 Serbian sovereignty. Other republics, especially Slovenia and Croatia, denounced this move as a revival of great Serbian hegemonism. Milošević succeeded in reducing the autonomy of Vojvodina and of Kosovo and Metohija, but both entities retained a vote in the Yugoslav Presidency Council. The very instrument that reduced Serbian influence before was now used to increase it: in the eight member Council, Serbia could now count on four votes minimum - Serbia proper, then-loyal Montenegro, and Vojvodina and Kosovo.
As a result of these events, the ethnic Albanian miners in Kosovo organized strikes, which dovetailed into ethnic conflict between the Albanians and the non-Albanians in the province. At 87% of the population of Kosovo in the 1980s, ethnic-Albanians were the majority. ...
Poor Serbians...
Bratwurst Boy
14 Jun 2009
History / Russia: Poland responsible for WW II [300]
And?
Astounding that you know always so exactly what will happen in the next half of century.
Your crystal ball must be really something..
Well...where exactly is the difference?
Nope, if someone had asked Germans they would have said the Poles were better off ruled by Germans or Austrians...they have problems doing it by themselves and look what happened...millions of deaths afterwards
Germany surely didn't create the polish problem (we tried to solve it later though).
They will just wander over to you...:)
What makes you think the coming millions of Turks will stay in Germany?
Did the guys in the video tell you that?
Well..talk is cheap..where is the proof?
PS: I would prefer some accepted source please!
Not some crowish "They are all out to kill us!"- website
Again i'm amused to see comments by a guy who's about to have between 8 and 15% of his citizens being Turks within the next 43 years.
And?
Astounding that you know always so exactly what will happen in the next half of century.
Your crystal ball must be really something..
Germans felt exactly the same about gas chambers and a lot of differnet things, just because your nation was a barbaric disfunctional pile of crap doesnt make it comparable to people who had reasonable issues but solved them in unreasonable ways.
Well...where exactly is the difference?
Germany always made up problems or created them in order to "solve" them later on,
Nope, if someone had asked Germans they would have said the Poles were better off ruled by Germans or Austrians...they have problems doing it by themselves and look what happened...millions of deaths afterwards
Germany surely didn't create the polish problem (we tried to solve it later though).
you should know best that Turkish presence is not in Germanys best interest.
They will just wander over to you...:)
What makes you think the coming millions of Turks will stay in Germany?
He alleged that genocide took place at a football stadium in Pristina. He fabricated the evidence and was exposed by smart German minds. You don't allege genocide like that, sorry!
Did the guys in the video tell you that?
Well..talk is cheap..where is the proof?
PS: I would prefer some accepted source please!
Not some crowish "They are all out to kill us!"- website
Bratwurst Boy
14 Jun 2009
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Well...and I said that Crow and Co know that too and they don't care...
Why don't you tell me?
Sharping a Nazi? If your arguments are like that I'm not really interested because THAT is just crap...
I was just saying that that would be the only way to oust them.
Well...and I said that Crow and Co know that too and they don't care...
BB, I posted the video to you. You know what I'm talking about. They exposed Sharping for the lying Nazi bękart that he is
Why don't you tell me?
Sharping a Nazi? If your arguments are like that I'm not really interested because THAT is just crap...
Bratwurst Boy
14 Jun 2009
History / Russia: Poland responsible for WW II [300]
Well...it would be for a good cause, wouldn't it...
Heil Slavija!!!
What lies again?
I meant that the only way you could get rid of Albanians, in the future, is to commite genocide or somehow force them out as they aren't going anywhere...
Well...it would be for a good cause, wouldn't it...
Heil Slavija!!!
It was the one about Kosovo and the lies of Sharping/NATO.
What lies again?
Bratwurst Boy
14 Jun 2009
History / Russia: Poland responsible for WW II [300]
Well...now it seems it was only Tito's iron fist which did held the many different people together (kind of like the soviet empire).
After his death it detoriated quickly and soon the people showed how they detest and even hate each other.
They couldn't get away from each other quick enough...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslavia#Approaching_the_Breakup
And so it started...the Serbs wanted a Great Serbia and are now left with a tiny statelet...reminds me about something...what was that...
Who are we invading or threatening currently?
You have to be kidding!
He is nothing but offensive against "so called West"!
Not to mention his most favourite blame guy, the "germanized Slavs"! :)
Germans felt exactly the same, thank you for your understanding! :)
Yeah...funny world! :)
IMO none of this bs would have happened if Yugoslavia would have stayed a united country like it was before.
Well...now it seems it was only Tito's iron fist which did held the many different people together (kind of like the soviet empire).
After his death it detoriated quickly and soon the people showed how they detest and even hate each other.
They couldn't get away from each other quick enough...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslavia#Approaching_the_Breakup
...
After Tito's death on 4 May 1980, ethnic tensions grew in Yugoslavia.
...
Serbian communist leader Slobodan Milošević sought to restore pre-1974 Serbian sovereignty. Other republics, especially Slovenia and Croatia, denounced this move as a revival of great Serbian hegemonism. Milošević succeeded in reducing the autonomy of Vojvodina and of Kosovo and Metohija, but both entities retained a vote in the Yugoslav Presidency Council.
The very instrument that reduced Serbian influence before was now used to increase it: in the eight member Council, Serbia could now count on four votes minimum - Serbia proper, then-loyal Montenegro, and Vojvodina and Kosovo.
As a result of these events, the ethnic Albanian miners in Kosovo organized strikes, ...
After Tito's death on 4 May 1980, ethnic tensions grew in Yugoslavia.
...
Serbian communist leader Slobodan Milošević sought to restore pre-1974 Serbian sovereignty. Other republics, especially Slovenia and Croatia, denounced this move as a revival of great Serbian hegemonism. Milošević succeeded in reducing the autonomy of Vojvodina and of Kosovo and Metohija, but both entities retained a vote in the Yugoslav Presidency Council.
The very instrument that reduced Serbian influence before was now used to increase it: in the eight member Council, Serbia could now count on four votes minimum - Serbia proper, then-loyal Montenegro, and Vojvodina and Kosovo.
As a result of these events, the ethnic Albanian miners in Kosovo organized strikes, ...
And so it started...the Serbs wanted a Great Serbia and are now left with a tiny statelet...reminds me about something...what was that...
greedy fingers still grabing and grabing
Who are we invading or threatening currently?
at least he doesnt try to be offensive.
You have to be kidding!
He is nothing but offensive against "so called West"!
Not to mention his most favourite blame guy, the "germanized Slavs"! :)
..they definitely had reasons for military intervention given that their countrymen were subject to heavy repressions,
Germans felt exactly the same, thank you for your understanding! :)
yep, the whole civilized World is bulls*itting and the only truth is the one provided by Crow, lmao
Yeah...funny world! :)
Bratwurst Boy
13 Jun 2009
History / Russia: Poland responsible for WW II [300]
They should have made a country out of the Hanse...
They had their own laws, their own protection, they became wealthy because of their trading with each other, they had everything!
A core EU if you so want :)
There were many towns, doesn't make them german .....or does?
They should have made a country out of the Hanse...
They had their own laws, their own protection, they became wealthy because of their trading with each other, they had everything!
A core EU if you so want :)
Bratwurst Boy
13 Jun 2009
History / Russia: Poland responsible for WW II [300]
When do you think the mods will put us into the "random"? :)
Wasted? no never buddy.
When do you think the mods will put us into the "random"? :)
Bratwurst Boy
13 Jun 2009
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First I tried to be polite as it is my nature...but rethinking that I believe it's wasted with you, so....
Oih Cnut stop popping back and editing its very frustrating to answer a post and then go back and find someting else.
First I tried to be polite as it is my nature...but rethinking that I believe it's wasted with you, so....
Bratwurst Boy
13 Jun 2009
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Do they let us win at football games at least???
If not they can go to hell and we withdraw our support immediately!
Do they let us win at football games at least???
If not they can go to hell and we withdraw our support immediately!
Bratwurst Boy
13 Jun 2009
Bratwurst Boy
13 Jun 2009
History / Russia: Poland responsible for WW II [300]
That "thank you" has been sarcastic just in case you didn't get it.
This Treaty wouldn't had come to pass without your help, there would have been no border changings, no humiliation, no overt "punishment", no Hitler, no WWII...
We wouldn't discuss Danzig now and nobody would dispute german claims etc. etc. etc.
That "thank you" has been sarcastic just in case you didn't get it.
This Treaty wouldn't had come to pass without your help, there would have been no border changings, no humiliation, no overt "punishment", no Hitler, no WWII...
We wouldn't discuss Danzig now and nobody would dispute german claims etc. etc. etc.
Bratwurst Boy
13 Jun 2009
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No I don't!
But who cares what you believe...you have been a nutter since I know you.
A "cnut"...sounds cute
You support a culture that murdered millions of people period.
No I don't!
But who cares what you believe...you have been a nutter since I know you.
Youre a cnut dude.
A "cnut"...sounds cute
Bratwurst Boy
13 Jun 2009
History / Russia: Poland responsible for WW II [300]
Erm...I asked around already but....:(
Hmmm...hanseatic architecture like Bremen and Lübeck then are also not german??? :)
(It's the same in Danzig you know)
Aha!
These are pearls of wisdom!
Run to mommy if you can't stand the truth! :)
I'm not that interested in Gdansk history, ask someone who does!
Erm...I asked around already but....:(
Its not German architecture - hanzeatic is not German is northern European with strong Germanic influence.
Hmmm...hanseatic architecture like Bremen and Lübeck then are also not german??? :)
(It's the same in Danzig you know)
Well, maybe because germans were majority of the leading citizen in Gdansk?
Aha!
Bratwurst Boy:
a Treaty which even made a mad man like Hitler look good for many Germans, THANK YOU MAN!
Bratwurst Boy:
Well...you all needed to hold hands with your buddies to beat little plucky Germany...what an achievement! Not to mention a much needed alliance with that other monster Stalin!
Bratwurst Boy:
Oh puleeeze...as if you had given a **** about the Jews. You were scared about the Nazis..they might had come over and hid under your bed. YOU SH*IT YOUR PANTS!
Bratwurst Boy:
But now look who dominates Europe! Who did win in the end!
Bratwurst Boy:
We don't need another Führer...we have what we want! The Euro is in essence the Deutsche Mark, the EU is our backyard to sell our products too..we RULE!
a Treaty which even made a mad man like Hitler look good for many Germans, THANK YOU MAN!
Bratwurst Boy:
Well...you all needed to hold hands with your buddies to beat little plucky Germany...what an achievement! Not to mention a much needed alliance with that other monster Stalin!
Bratwurst Boy:
Oh puleeeze...as if you had given a **** about the Jews. You were scared about the Nazis..they might had come over and hid under your bed. YOU SH*IT YOUR PANTS!
Bratwurst Boy:
But now look who dominates Europe! Who did win in the end!
Bratwurst Boy:
We don't need another Führer...we have what we want! The Euro is in essence the Deutsche Mark, the EU is our backyard to sell our products too..we RULE!
These are pearls of wisdom!
Run to mommy if you can't stand the truth! :)
Bratwurst Boy
13 Jun 2009
History / Russia: Poland responsible for WW II [300]
Why? It worked well, didn't it...
*waits*
To be truly disgusted by your home country
Why? It worked well, didn't it...
*waits*