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World War II - a tragic story for Poland and the World [489]
Had to walk a dog, btw ignore Solomon please, we'll have him euthanized shortly.
They were "polonized" you mean?
Yessir, i'd wager there's more than a quarter of a milion people who dont even remember they used to be German, while our countries dont roll well together they assimilate each others people very smoothly (pissing on Irons argument that white old Europe is full of different cultures).
Didn't hinder him to work for Prussia till he died! :)
There was no Prussia back then, Kopernik to be specific had a Polish father and a German mother, his works were influenced by a Polish professor while he was studying in Kraków, Toruń at the time was a multinational city falling within Polish influence and Kopernik is a clear example of it, the guy was related to most major Polish nobility and German merchant/nobles in the region (through his mother).
He never worked for Prussia, the region at the time had much more in common with Poland since Poland was a unified state and the heanzeatic cities were not.
You mean "re-germanized" polonized ex-Germans??? :)
No i mean germanizing ethnic Poles, Poznań and Wrocław had Polish majorities when they entered kingdom of Prussia, these turned into minorities since many Poles either moved or were Germanized but they were forced to do it under economic and administrative pressure, it was not a willing process.
You can read alot of history books Sokrates and many historians will tell you the same as I do.
The treaty of Versailles is seen as paving the way for the success of Adolf Hitler and taking Danzig out of Germany was part of this treaty....
Yes yes there's also historians who claim world is several thousands years old and created by God bible style.
The facts are, Germany wanted its own slice of power in Europe, power that was already taken by France UK and Russia, there was no other way than war.
Bismarcks pet state bred people to dominate, fight and win, Germans were completely unable to cope with failiure, you wanted to wage war against France and Russia (in the end UK would probably get it too) as a means of revenge, Poland was never a reason, neither for the first nor the second war, not its existence, not Danzig.
Hitler is a direct descendant of militaristic society, unable to cope with defeat you needed another go, another war, the treaty of Versailles was just a symbol, even if you were allowed to keep Poland the result would be the same, not to mention that Poland did free itself so you should have directed your anger against Poland, instead you will notice France and Russia earmarked as enemies early on.
Dont blaim WW2 on Poland because it was not even close to a reason, you lost WW1, your economy got squashed by reparations, and more importantly you lost your misplaced pride, the utter failure of Germany to form a healthy flexible society was the only reason Hitler got all the way to the top.
How could there had been war with Poland still partitioned?
Poland was not the premiere reason for WW2, even if it would not recover its lands Germany would still assault Russia and France, the only thing different would be that there would be no invasion of Poland.
Well...if you don't accept an ethnic majority of 95 percent then Germans don't have to accept the actual polish majority either, don't they?
I dont accept the ways it was achieved and incidentally history has this tendency to right itself given time, Germany made such great attempts to grab and hold these lands and after nearly four centuries we're still here, this too is the legacy of Bismarcks failiure.
The guy failed to recognize that nations, countries are living creatures that evolve and interact in accordance with certain potentials, you cannot arbitraly take land or impose policies because you will lose.
No blackmail or coercion can make you to think like a German or to feel like a German.
Yet another of Bismarcks failiures, people who were pushed resisted but not all, you can forcefully integrate someone, he will not feel like a German but surrounded by indoctrination he will succumb.
That Polish culture survived on these areas is testament to how dynamic we are even under pressure.
Either you overvalue the power of the german culture or you totally dismiss the power of polish culture.
Please think about what that means...
Neither, while as political and national entities we will always be rivals our cultures intertwine, assimilation of some in mixed regions is inevitable.
