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celinski   
18 Feb 2008
News / Will Poland stick to plans for "Anti missile shield" under new threats? [62]

You are always speaking of these bad commies or the bad russians who hurt the good, poor Poles so much...but you know that most of these commies were Poles themselves

No my family were not commies. It was due to "Communist" taking over Poland we lost our country. Or are you referring to the ones that were forced to live in communism. If what happened to Poland, happened to Britian I know it would be OK in your book to talk about it, why do you not see we have a right to the "full truth, accountability, respect". Even the USA if we look at Pearl Harbor, now 20,000 Polish in Katyn, this is the number confirmed. Quite a little differance in how we respect the memory. Time for respect to be shown for yesterdays hero's that fought for Poland's freedom.

seriously,carol,your preaching to the wrong audience,there cant be a Pole alive who doesnt know all this,even back in the 70's and 80's all this was known.

You think, is that why with all you have studied you never questioned Roman Catholic void in Poland when communist took over. Go to Holocaust and type in Roman Catholic, nothing there yet, millions dead and history opps over looked it, sorry if you don't understand but silence a country to history for as long as they did and partial truths are all you see. It broke my heart seeing Polish that really believed the families that exiled did so to live vs. running to relax in USA.

Stalin is closer to the truth, if Russians wants to put what he did to his own in a box to be forgotten, thats fine. They do not have this right to slander what he has done to Poland. Stalin was not a great hero and seeing as how Putin decided to throw this in our face, shows me we have a long way to go in educating.
celinski   
17 Feb 2008
News / Will Poland stick to plans for "Anti missile shield" under new threats? [62]

I really do think your basing your ideas on what Americans may or may not yet know,not on what native Poles know.

I hope you are right. "Katlyn" is only part of the story, in this area we had reserve from Polish Army and all the family's. Remember we talked about killings prior to Sept. 1, 1939 by Stalin, here they are. It may take awhile but it's not just the information the Polish have, it's also what Russia is still covering up. I have personal letters from ones around the world that were witness, they are not getting younger and time is running out to get the full history from eye witnesses.

Joseph Stalin never had any problem finding willing executioners. Everyone from his Politburo colleagues to the secret-police rank and file dutifully carried out his wishes during the Great Terror of 1937-38, when approximately 700,000 people were shot in assembly-line executions. It was a huge job, and no one was a more enthusiastic organizer than Nikolai Ezhov, the head of the NKVD, as the secret police was then called. But when, predictably, the killing frenzy began consuming the executioners themselves, Ezhov didn't go gracefully. "He started to hiccup, weep, and when he was conveyed to 'the place,' they had to drag him by the hands along the floor," a witness recalled. "He struggled and screamed terribly."

newsweek.com/id/90408/page/1

"More than 3 million people have seen Wajda's film in Poland, where
the subject of the massacre was taboo under decades of communist rule.

The Soviets denied any involvement and pinned the blame on the German
wartime occupiers of Poland. Polish communist authorities accepted
this version.

The cover-up was exposed in 1990, a year after the collapse of
communism in Europe, when the Soviets released documents
acknowledging the killings."


earthtimes.org/articles/ show/185839, merkel-to-attend-
berlin-premiere- of-katyn- massacre- film.html
celinski   
17 Feb 2008
News / Will Poland stick to plans for "Anti missile shield" under new threats? [62]

to be able to exlcude poles from it.. by invitation only.

The articals I have read were not this way, it was Russia that was told by invite only. I really hope it's not as you say, I also have a problem with that. Unless it's a decission between Poland/USA (security issues) to keep civilians safe or possiable sabatodge attempts by ex communist spys.
celinski   
17 Feb 2008
News / Will Poland stick to plans for "Anti missile shield" under new threats? [62]

because it will divide Poland?

No I feel Poland needs to grow as an independent country. People from Poland have been silenced for over 60 years and are conditioned to not speak by "Communist Poland". Since 1989 is not to very long ago Poland has a high number of citizens that do not know the full truth as to what took place. We could even call it "Russian's brain washing". All we have to do is look at "Katyn" and the reaction of the citizens. Poland has a large void in history that needs to be told before the Polish citizens fully comprehend the reasons the EU has decided to ask USA for assistance in this anti missile shield.
celinski   
17 Feb 2008
News / Will Poland stick to plans for "Anti missile shield" under new threats? [62]

Relax, nothing is going to happen.

I was not scared, per say. I just feel the threats from Pres. Putin justified installation vs feeling secure with the way things were. Now I feel the comments directed about who shall have the choice are to cause division in Poland, goverment/citizens. This is from Russia that is in need of a voice for the people, no one should fear freedoms.

I am from 3 countries at once.

I was just wondering, no big deal.
celinski   
16 Feb 2008
History / Polish-German history book for Schools [28]

no,just coz your airforce has a habit of dropping bombs on its allies doesnt mean were actualy at war with each other....

LMAO I mean USA and allies are in Iraq and Afganistan. I'm sleepy, see ya guys.
celinski   
16 Feb 2008
News / Will Poland stick to plans for "Anti missile shield" under new threats? [62]

Did they have a national referendum about this issue?

Do I sense a wee bit of negitivity in your question? I will tell you again, "I believe, EU decided that in the best intreast of the people, lets get it." This being the case you seem to be asking a question just like Pres. Putin did. Do you by chance work for him, or maybe you just want the Polish people to fight between themselves over this? Don't worry the Polish people are intelligent and the anti missile shield will help ease the constant threats directed towards them from a close country, that by the way just told Tusk, we respect your right as an independent country to make this decission. This was on the 8th of the month.
celinski   
16 Feb 2008
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

Now they take advantage and press the West

This is why alternative energy is needed, yesterday.
celinski   
16 Feb 2008
History / Polish-German history book for Schools [28]

all humans live in peace and have set aside their differences.

Lets see Russia has threatened Poland, Ukraine and USA. USA is at war with allies in Iraq and Afganistan.
celinski   
16 Feb 2008
History / Polish-German history book for Schools [28]

BBC report tells what is really believed by Russian youth.

"But minutes later the same students were telling me quite openly how they consider America their enemy and that America and its Nato allies are intent on undermining Russia.

Later in the day, I went to meet a group of teenagers from a Kremlin-sponsored youth movement called Nashi (Ours)."

"The Americans always claim they won the war," she said. "That's rubbish. We won the war. They only joined in when it was already clear the Germans were going to lose."

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7241042.stm
celinski   
16 Feb 2008
News / Will Poland stick to plans for "Anti missile shield" under new threats? [62]

It was a threat so we don't have to think it is. Why would it make anyone feel important?

Another U.S. Missile Defense Facility Considered for Europe

February 13, 2008 - 10:37am

WASHINGTON - The U.S. is considering the addition of a mobile radar component to the missile defense system in Europe, Defense News reports. The radar would be "mobile and transportable," allowing it to be set up "closer to Iran" than the permanent radar that is already planned for installation in the Czech Republic, said Air Force Lt. Gen. Henry Obering, director of the Pentagon's Missile Defense Agency. The "forward-based" radar system might be installed in southeastern Europe, possibly in Turkey, the Caucasus or the Caspian Sea region, Obering told a defense-technology conference.

federalnewsradio.com/?nid=109&sid=1344506
celinski   
15 Feb 2008
News / Will Poland stick to plans for "Anti missile shield" under new threats? [62]

Great leader for the Russian people IMHO

I think he is teaching Russian they can behave like this in a civilized society. I posted another artical in here today that speaks to the rudeness of Russian people. I am glad when I go into the stores here in the USA the people I deal with are very nice, the artical states that in Russia they are rude. I would go nuts living around snobby people that act that way. 1498-1499 on Poland Russian Relations
celinski   
15 Feb 2008
News / Will Poland stick to plans for "Anti missile shield" under new threats? [62]

The Polish political scene was seriously rocked by the address to the nation delivered by Russian president Vladimir Putin. In no certain terms the Russian head of state spoke about the threats, he sees in the installment of the anti missile shields on Polish and Czech territories and Russia's possible counter reactions.

The Thursday conference of Vladimir Putin contained some serious threats directed against the west. The Russian head of state did not exclude the possibility of aiming missiles at Eastern Europe if the US and NATO build military bases there. Vladimir Putin said that the installment of such shields is against democracy and acused United States of acting unilaterally in imposing its plans for a missile defence system in Poland and the Czech Republic.

celinski   
15 Feb 2008
USA, Canada / The 2nd Amendment (USA), the right to own guns [261]

the vast majority of legal firearms owners are never,ever involved in gun crime

This is the truth. Not long ago, maybe 20 years, gun racks were in all the trucks and going out they were right there to see. I do feel if you have guns you should have them locked up and gun safes are a great investment.
celinski   
15 Feb 2008
USA, Canada / 2008 U.S. Presidential Election according to Polish and foreign people [90]

With McCain we'll get the same

I noticed no one has brought up the last US election where McCain used a term when refering to another group of people, "Gooks" that sent citizens in an uproar.

Obama is the closest thing America has to Osama

What scared me about Obama is his non educated views on the very group the USA is at war with. This is why he keeps dodging the bullet when Clinton asks for a debate. Of corse this is IMO, Clinton on the other hand seems to be able to look at the people from other countries and find the positive of the people and looks at their needs.

I wanted to add one more comment. In the USA I feel in order to have a fair and unbiased election none of the vote results can be viewed before every last vote is placed. It is a known fact that people gravitate to popular views. If a voter is unsure they look for the one that is leading vs. knowledge of the particular candidite. This sways the vote and I always felt that (yes, I watch) televised vote results were the #1 problem with our system. Any one else have this view?
celinski   
15 Feb 2008
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

too bad Poland can't be as thoughtfull and generous as Russia... lol

Call me sheltered, is Russia really like this artical say's?

31/01/2008 | Moscow News,№04 2008
Stervis: Service Moscow-style
> print version
It is only after having had my head bitten off at a London bus stop for simply humming an innocuous little tune that I realized how unusual such a show of plain unprovoked rudeness is in the West.

This is when the complete absurdity of the situation finally struck me. Where was the "customer is always right" attitude in all this?

mnweekly.ru/local/20080131/55306968.html

I found this interesting it seems Pres. Putin may not see verbal threats with missiles as being very important? Maybe with better communication skills Russia could go far.

In answer to a question by a reporter from Fox News on Russia's plans to aim nuclear missiles on Ukraine if it joins NATO:

"We actually don't intend to aim anything at anyone without the utmost necessity. Look what is happening. I think that there are certain colleagues in this room that will return to questions of democracy, freedom, and so on. Democracy is a universal concept, it cannot be local. In one place the principles of democracy change, in another place they are forgotten. If a country considers itself democratic, then in spirit and in meaning it should be such in all of its endeavors - both domestically and on the international arena.

mnweekly.ru/news/20080214/55310250.html

Is this the true reason? If yes then it's fantastic. It speaks to the magnitude of my mistrust in Russia's goals when settting up an office in Russia and reading up on case history would serve this purpose. Maybe it's due to lack of honesty and past lines drawn due to spy issues. Hopefully I am wrong and this will make for a closer relationship.

Russian Think Tank to Open in Paris, New York
"We're interested in questions of the rights and freedoms of citizens, security, migration problems, inter-ethnic issues and other issues," Kucherena said at a press conference in Moscow.

mnweekly.ru/news/20080131/55307114.html
celinski   
14 Feb 2008
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

That`s about Russia.

But, i see, you aren`t balanced, you are cubic

It's that joint he's smoking. lol

Russia gets what Russia wants.

Deal reached in Ukraine gas row
The Presidents of Russia and Ukraine have announced a deal over gas, which will ensure supplies are not cut-off. Gazprom had given Ukraine just hours to reach an agreement, and a last-minute meeting between Vladimir Putin and Viktor Yushchenko appears to have helped seal the

Ukrainian possible NATO membership

But the gas bill is one sticky card removed from the deck. The Presidents admit they're walking on egg shells as some of the issues are very sensitive, such as the possibility Ukraine's membership in NATO.

russiatoday.ru/news/news/20848
celinski   
14 Feb 2008
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

There are two types of Russians, Yeltsin and Putin/Stalin

What gets me is the support Putin gets.

firstly threat and now behave like innocent angel :)

Did you see how quick Putin changed dealing with Poland when the decission was made on the shield?
celinski   
14 Feb 2008
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

"I have nothing against russians, but I hate Russia as a state", something like this.....

I guess the same here, we don't have alot of Russians living in the USA to really knowthem that well. We have a Russian baker a few towns over and I tell you, he can bake. Russia as a place seems like they live under the same threats they have in there past.