News / What do you think about what the Kaczynskis say about Germans ? [90]

Yes, Butty, no hard feelings. As I said before, you're a good man. If more Germans are like you, I think I'm going to start liking you, folks. In fact, I remember reading on one Polish website a post by a Polish guy living in Germany who wrote something like:'You're wrong! Ordinary Germans are good-hearted people, and they resemble us Poles a lot.' A food for thought to me. And my very best friend was a Polish German from Poznan. His parents spoke German at home, but were loyal Polish citizens, even during WWII. And he was a great Polish patriot, a Solidarity activist. He's dead now - may God save his soul. A hearty pint of Pilsener from me to you, Butty. Prost!

News / What do you think about what the Kaczynskis say about Germans ? [90]

re: If you have such a thin skin and seing ghosts everywhere with regard to Germany it's only fair if I do the same...

- Do you mean that you have a thin skin and 'seing [sic] ghosts everywhere with regard to Germany'?

Na zdrowie.
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News / What do you think about what the Kaczynskis say about Germans ? [90]

Butty, what did exactly Mr Kaczynski say? - He indeed said that 'something very negative' has been taking place in Germany and that mosty EU members are scared to openly speak about it. That's it. He never said that today Germany is the same as Hitler's Germany. The allegation that he said today Germany is like Hitler's Germany has come from German hacks. The latter simply have misrepresented Kaczynski's words, and you trust them and have repeated their misrepresentation rather thoughtlessly.

The worst enemy of the Germans aren't Poles, but the hate-spreading media hacks. Haven't you noticed that, Butty? I don't identify the German people with the media in Germany. I know that the Germans and their media have different, often contradictory interests. The same for every European nation. The media hacks set them against each other. Including Poland, where e.g. Adam Michnik's daily the Gazeta Wyborcza is a Polonophobic and hate-spreading alien entity.

News / What do you think about what the Kaczynskis say about Germans ? [90]

re: Kacyzinski

- Actually, the name spells: Kaczynski. The Germans have the habit of purposely misspelling Polish names (out of the racist conviction: 'Polish is not a real human language'). Should we misspell German names for fun? If we do it consistently, folks will start laughing at them eventually too.

re: elfin-featured

- That's name-calling, isn't it? Coming from a German hack and repeated with gusto by a German feller (i.e. Butty).

Should we similarly depict the facial features of German politicians? E.g. Frau Mekerel (instead of Merkel) as piggy-faced?

I wonder how would the Germans take it? So far, they have been enraged by the cover of the Polish weekly Wprost, showing a humorous pic of Frau Merkel with, actually, the Kaczynskis. (Which seems to corroborate the stereotype that the Germans are bereft of any sense of humour. Also compared to us, Poles. After all, nobody that I know of in Poland objected to the humorous representation of the Kaczynskis on the aforementioned cover.) Of course, when some time ago a German periodical had on its cover President Kaczynski with a potato instead of head and some Poles objected to it, the German politicians retorted with the air of intellectual superiority that Poles should know what 'satire' is.

I hope this give to certain folks scribbling in this thread some food for thought as to whether the Germans are really as amicable towards and safe to us as these folks have been implying.

By the way, Frasu Merkel herself has showed class; she suggested to a German hack, who asked her about the Wprost caricature, that the Polish hacks have the right to freedom of expression.

News / What do you think about what the Kaczynskis say about Germans ? [90]

re: First of all I must say that i don't like the Kaczynskis

- Specifically why?

re: Tusk was better than those...poor single ducks ;) sorry

- When and why was 'Tusk better'? Better at what? Why do you insult the Polish President and Premier by namecalling ('poor single ducks')? Why would they be allegedly 'poor single ducks' anyway? Because e.g. the French media hacks call them so over and over again?

re: I just wondered how Poles react on what they say about Germany ? Comparing them to the nazis for example ?

- And what exactly do 'they' say about Germany? Who allegedly compares whom to 'the nazis' (sic), where, and when?

re: I must say that i prefer their voting system better than the one proposed in the Constitution

- And why do you prefer 'their [i.e. Kaczynskis?] voting system'? Hm, so after all, the Kaczynskis may not be as bad as you seem to think? How about Tusk, do you know what system of weighing votes does he recommend?

re:
but I think they're going too far by saying that today's Germany is the same as Hitler's one ???!!

- So the Kaczynskis have allegedly said that today Germany is the same as Hitler's Germany? When and where did they allegedly say so? Can you give the pertinent quote?

re: They always think Germany is a danger for Poland, and things like that.

- Well, if you back the Kaczynskis's weighing votes system, and you don't back the one preferred by the Germans, then don't you agree with the Kaczynskis that the system preferred by the Germans is very disadvantageous for Poland? Wouldn't you agree that if the system favoured by the Germans were in place, then Poland would be in danger of not having any significant political power as regards her her own affairs? Also, don't you think that the German financial claims pertaining to the former German territories are dangerous to Poland?

re: Actually, it seems that they want all the Poles against the Germans

- And on the basis of what facts does it seem so?

By the way, I'd like to remind you that, generally speaking, the Kaczynskis were voted for by the majority of the Polish people and they still have a strong support from their voters.

It seems, therefore, that your adversity towards them is not representative of the Polish majority.
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Travel / Changing Poland [75]

Bunia, we Poles should return to our country, and soon - as soon as possible.

News / GERMAN NEWSPAPER DEFENDS POLAND, KACZYNSKIS - BRAVO GERMANS! [99]

Amathyst, I believe I have never written anything like that about the English. If there's a foreign nation I like and respect, it's the English. I think it's shows in my posts. I am not being flattery; I see the English national shortcomings too (just as, for example, I see those of my own nation, Poles). My personal encounters with the English have been almost exclusively positive. The English, on the whole, aren't Polonophobic. Alas, the real English seem to be rare species nowadays, which may be catastrophic for Europe in the future. I have doubts whether some folks coming to this board and saying they're English, are really English. I am not sure if I agree that for all English we Poles are just another nation. One (working class) Englishman told me that in spite of the complaining in his pub about the influx of the Poles, the English folks have a real respect towards us; in fact, he said, 'we have more respect for you than for other nations.'

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News / GERMAN NEWSPAPER DEFENDS POLAND, KACZYNSKIS - BRAVO GERMANS! [99]

Shopgirl, shall we revive the zodiac thread? Shall we meet there?
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News / GERMAN NEWSPAPER DEFENDS POLAND, KACZYNSKIS - BRAVO GERMANS! [99]

re: ive got a long experience to but would never be so crass as to mention it in mixed company

- Why not? What you've got against shopgal, booby? Don't be such a chauvinist and jealous oinker.
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News / GERMAN NEWSPAPER DEFENDS POLAND, KACZYNSKIS - BRAVO GERMANS! [99]

re: Proof please

- How about my question:'You mean you won't give your evidence until I give mine? Why?'

News / GERMAN NEWSPAPER DEFENDS POLAND, KACZYNSKIS - BRAVO GERMANS! [99]

re: Shouldn't you first "proof" your accusations Puzzy?

- You mean you won't give your evidence until I don't give mine? Why?

By the way, what should I prove in connection with my question: 'The usual german with a wrecked self-image who is trying to satisfy his sense of belonging?'?

News / GERMAN NEWSPAPER DEFENDS POLAND, KACZYNSKIS - BRAVO GERMANS! [99]

re: but that doesnt mean hes not a twat

- Well, facts show you're a twat, but you refuse to accept you're a twat, and project your twatness on somebody else, i.e. myself.

Booba the twat.
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re: whatever... yawn...

- Whatever yawn here too, twattie.

News / GERMAN NEWSPAPER DEFENDS POLAND, KACZYNSKIS - BRAVO GERMANS! [99]

re: P... youre a twat... all the evidence we need that youre a twat are in your posts...

- Quote the alleged evidence. And if you can't do it, won't it mean you are lying or being delusional about the alleged evidence?

re: we really dont need to prove your a twat [sic]

- Isn't it rather that you're too dull to bring up the proof?

re: go away and develop some social skills or something... get some therapy... read a book... whatever...

- Aren't you projecting on me your own lack of social (e.g. debating) skills, proneness to delusions (re seeing some 'evidence' in my posts which isn't really there) and poorly read (re 'coz')?

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News / GERMAN NEWSPAPER DEFENDS POLAND, KACZYNSKIS - BRAVO GERMANS! [99]

re: But she has more balls than your twins together! Plus a BRAIN

- Prove it.
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News / GERMAN NEWSPAPER DEFENDS POLAND, KACZYNSKIS - BRAVO GERMANS! [99]

re: Evidence? Which evidence?

- Evidence that I'm allegedly 'one seriously screwed puppy.'

re: Canada is racist!", "Germany is world wide disliked!", "In GB Poles are horrible abused!", "I'm a Nazi!" "the EU will soon collapse anyway"

- Are you implying I'm the author of these quotes? If yes, it's further evidence you're a liar.

re: I BROUGHT evidence to the contrary

- What evidence and pertaining to what did you allegedly bring?
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News / GERMAN NEWSPAPER DEFENDS POLAND, KACZYNSKIS - BRAVO GERMANS! [99]

re: i think most of us are intelligent enough

- I'm afraid that until you prove it you come across as stupid enough.

You, boob, have given evidence of this numerous times.
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News / GERMAN NEWSPAPER DEFENDS POLAND, KACZYNSKIS - BRAVO GERMANS! [99]

re: your Kartoffeln

- How about your sauerkraut-face chanceloress?

God how ugly she is. A typical german female.
Yuch.
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News / GERMAN NEWSPAPER DEFENDS POLAND, KACZYNSKIS - BRAVO GERMANS! [99]

re: he is one seriously screwed up individual

- Specifically why, flower? Are you intelligent enough to back your point with some arguments, evidence?

By the way, I also can sling insults - and how - especially at those who have slung them at me first.
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News / GERMAN NEWSPAPER DEFENDS POLAND, KACZYNSKIS - BRAVO GERMANS! [99]

re: You ARE one seriously screwed puppy!

- And what do you specifically mean by that, krautie?

As usual resorting to insults when unable to defeat my point with evidence?

You germans have a long historical tradition of 'debating' with us in this manner.

See e.g. the racist dirt the german media psychos have been slinging at us, our government, in connection with the recent EU summit.

Where's your alleged superiority in the realm of philosophy?
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News / GERMAN NEWSPAPER DEFENDS POLAND, KACZYNSKIS - BRAVO GERMANS! [99]

re: Isn't that interesting...you are downtalking not only Great Britain but also Canada and of course Germany...

- Are you trying to play the game of mobbing, nazi clown? - Are you suggesting that Great Britain, Canada and germany, are, ahem, all three the victim of one Pole, i.e. myself?

Are you therefore trying to form an anti-Polish relation with folks from these countries who scribble in this forum?

The usual german with a wrecked self-image who is trying to satisfy his sense of belonging?

Why should I believe your index? Who has completed it? On what grounds? Why should I trust it's correct? Is it as 'correct' as e.g. the corrupt UN fantasies on which country is the best to live in? Or as the ridiculous corrupt fantasies from (Germany-based?) body calling itself Transparency International? - From my own experience, your index is totally incorrect for Europe; I have spoken to many Europeans, and very few of them like the Germans. Doesn't mean we Poles are respected, but the disrespect towards us is the result of the media mafia brainwashing, and when common people in given European countries get to know us directly, they start liking us (it's often true even for the Germans). Whereas in case of germans your own obnoxious attitude is the reason for the prevalent dislike of you.

And yes, it's a fact that the general attitude towards the Poles in Canada is racist (partly because there are so many germans there?). And canadians are so narcisstic that they refuse to acknowledge this. It's also true that Poles have been insulted and abused in Britain; there have been so far numerous verbal insults (lots of them noticeable in this forum - it's a fact), beatings, and also murder there. It's a fact.

I am not going to keep quiet about all this.

And I assure you, manipulative nazi kraut, that I'll make it hard for the likes of you to take advantage of my criticism.

At present I firmly believe we Poles should leave the EU.

The latter may collapse soon anyway.
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re: PS. check the Polish Canadians thread Shawn

- Miranda, the self-hating russki trying to pass as a Pole rats on a Pole to a foreigner?
See, another feature of your personality pertaining to your real attitude towards the Poles has just revealed itself in its fullness.

By the way, I stand firmly by what I've written in my posting, the one miranda rats about to Shawn (who, by the way, seems to be a nice and brainy guy, but let's see).

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Wow, so much mobbing against one little Polish guy, i.e. myself. - The russki wench from canada pretending to be a Pole - miranda, Daisy, and Shawn, all in an alliance with one vulgar and deranged nazi german. :)

As for me, your mobbing and exclusion don't scare me at the least. - We Polish people are used to this.

Facts are on my side, whereas types like you can resort only to arguments ad hominem.

News / GERMAN NEWSPAPER DEFENDS POLAND, KACZYNSKIS - BRAVO GERMANS! [99]

re: You can always go home anytime you want Puzzler!!

- Thanks for, ahem, inviting us out, track driva from Manchaster.

- For some time now, I've been persuading my countrymen to go back to Poland instantly, and I'm going to keep on doing it.

So that you can have a few truck-driving jobs entirely for yourself.

I've seen blood-curdling things in Europe, including, alas, Britain, as regards the treatment of the Polish people. I thought that after living in psychopathic racist Canada I wouldn't be shocked by anything in this respect. I was wrong.

Better to starve than to be treated like this.

And you watch out - maybe one day you'll be in our shoes.

In fact, looking at the state of your country today, I'm absolutely positive you will.

Remember us then.
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re: We Germans think the Poles (as in the Kaczinsky's) do everything they did and do not because of real concerns but out of Germanophobia...

- Do you mean that the Poles do everything out of Germanophobia? If yes, give specific evidence in this matter; prove that we do everything out of Germanophobia. Prove that Germanophobia is our 'main motivator' (sic). Don't you indulge in excessive self-flattery? By the way, the Polish President and PM's surname spells 'Kaczynski.'

re: Had the presidency belonged to someone else...maybe british or whoever it would had gone flawlessly.

- And how do you know what would have happened?? Are you some kind of fortune-teller?

re: Right now the sympathy for everything polish is down in the cellar in Germany.

- Who in Poland gives a damn about your 'sympathy'? And isn't the expression 'German sympathy towards the Poles' a kind of oxymoron?

If I were a German, I'd rather be concerned with the German image throughout Europe. The fact is nobody likes you there, even if they are scared you can screw them economically.

re: Even if this summit is long gone, regardless the outcome, scars will stay and that will show...

- Is it a threat?

News / GERMAN NEWSPAPER DEFENDS POLAND, KACZYNSKIS - BRAVO GERMANS! [99]

Well, if the Gerries treated us with respect, and not like subhumans, then...sure... After all, for at least a thousand years we have been closely connected culturally, etc. In spite of the periods of hostility. It would be good for Gerries, us and Europe.

News / GERMAN NEWSPAPER DEFENDS POLAND, KACZYNSKIS - BRAVO GERMANS! [99]

I think Gerries should open their job market for the Poles as soon as possible.

This would be in our mutual great interest, as Herr Posner rightly suggests.

We'll get the hell out of and stop coming to crappy Britain...

Yeah, I think I would prefer Germany and Germans than ...
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News / What can Poland do to maintain its Ethnic Integrity? [118]

Buttheworst scribbles:
Now it are Poles who invade England and other richer EU-countries, soon it will be Turks from Germany, Arabs from France or Pakis from GB who will run to Poland...and many will stay.

- What do you mean that the Poles invade England and other richer EU countries? - They come to these countries legally, and are in fact encouraged by their governments to come. Since 2004, there have always been contless job offers in Poland and in Polish, from the UK, and other EU and non-EU (e.g. Norway) countries. So you compare us Poles to Turks, Arabs, and 'Pakis,' kraut? Would you compare to them your own countryvolk who used to come to the UK en masse e.g. in 1980s? Unlike us Poles, who are generally liked and appreciated in the UK, and only are attacked by the media psychopaths there (who are enthusiasts of a Thirld World 'multiculturalism' in Britain), the germans weren't welcome by both the UK press and population. And now some Poles tell me that those germans who stayed in Britain are among the firecest attackers of the Polish guest workers there. Anyhow, would you also compare those germans in UK to Arabs, Turks and Pakistanis? Would you say they tried to invade England? - Is your use of the word 'invade' a projection on us Poles the blame for the real attempt in invasion of Britain by germany under hitler? It's you, not us, who hate the British, especially the English. Don't you call them 'island apes'?

re: many (and I guess the UK too) is thriving right now DESPITE them not because of them..

- You mean that the UK thrives despite the Polish guest workers? Prove it.

re:
I think our western european values superior....but then it's just my fault again too! Silly me!

- What do you mean by 'western european valuse' (sic)? Is it another racial term? Yes, when germans grab even the loftiest ideas, they twist them into the meanest, most racist ones. Think, for example, about WWII german troops who had on their belts the words 'Got mitt uns' ie. God is with us. :) Or the teutonic knights who murdered cruelly huge masses of Baltic tribes (such as Prussians - the real Prussians, who were Balt, not German peoples) in the name of Christianity. - From my observation, the germans are the most obnoxious ones among those who brag about their alleged 'westerness.' And since when the germans are oh so very 'western'? You weren't considered 'western' even in the late 1940s (see Trevor-Roper's The Last Days of Hitler). So why today are they suddenly oh so 'western' and bragging about it wherever they can, and looking down on others whom they perceive as non-western? Yes, buttworst, it's your fault again and silly you again (and again, without end).

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News / Nazism in Poland - A recipe for mass suicide? [176]

re: The "Nazi philosophy" as you call it, was being dynamically adjusted to the fast-changing political circumstances

- That's right. :))))))))))))

Only does that 'dynamically adjusted' 'Nazi philosophy' is 'Nazi philosophy' any more? And who adjusts it so?

Commiefascist (called also leftist or politically correct) media psychos perhaps?
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re: That and lots of other issues make a room for neo-nazis in Poland

- Oh yes, any one whose opinions differ from those of the commiefascist marxist media hacks can be branded by the latter as 'neo-Nazi.' :))))))))

Including patriots and nationalists who in any country are the healthy part of the population.
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News / the most true Post about Poland ever( the truth will set you free) [29]

re: I love Poland and just find it Very very sad to see it going down the toilet

- You greatly greatly exaggerate, zion. And PiS has been so far the best government the post-commie Poland has had.

You also greatly exaggerate with Radio Maryja. They are good folks, really caring for Poland and the Poles.

Finally, you exaggerate when you suggest that the Polish government is Jew-phobic. Facts show that it's the other way around. By the way, the Jewish part of our history is choked by lies. The rather numerous misdeeds of Jews in Poland, e.g. during the stalinist era, have been kept secret, out of fear of the Jewish lobby in America. That's disgraceful.

News / Nazism in Poland - A recipe for mass suicide? [176]

Well, I identify with facts of Polish history, not with delusions about it.

That's why I am a smart guy, whereas you are a hopeless antithesis of me.
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News / Nazism in Poland - A recipe for mass suicide? [176]

Sorry, buttworst, but Wiesenthal is no authority to me.
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News / Nazism in Poland - A recipe for mass suicide? [176]

re: Just for you Puzzy...straight from the Jews themselves:

- Well, the apparently Jewish-Israli Jewish author suggests that the possibility that hitler was of Jewish origin is very remote, but John Toland does not seem to suggest that. The Jewish author must have a clear interest in proving that hitler had nothing to do with the Jews.

Have you read Toland, buttworst? :)

And would you deny that quite a few from hitler's entourage, such as Milch, were of Jewish origin?
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