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MareGaea   
11 Nov 2009
Food / How often do you have Polish Food? [49]

Seanus

In NL we consider the Potato as a typical Dutch food :) And soup is a pretty much global food as well. And, like I said previously, I generally like to eat Polish food as it's so similar to Dutch food. I think there is not that much difference in the diverse dishes - with few exceptions of course...

Edit: in fact I think most dishes are in fact a variation to the same theme, if you catch my drift.

>^..^<

M-G (likes gowobki)
MareGaea   
11 Nov 2009
Food / Why did Taco Bell leave Poland? [82]

PlasticPole

Well, to be honest, I don't really mind if it's TX-MX or MX, I still like burritos a lot :) Especially the ones you get at Chipotle's. Did you ever go there? It's a very good restaurant - they serve MX food made with only biological ingredients, so you don't have to worry about getting any weird chemicals in your body...:S

>^..^<

M-G (thinks that's also important)
MareGaea   
11 Nov 2009
Food / How often do you have Polish Food? [49]

About once or twice a week. I like it because it reminds me so much of Dutch food.

>^..^<

M-G (does beer count as food too?)
MareGaea   
11 Nov 2009
Food / Why did Taco Bell leave Poland? [82]

PlasticPole

Second that! I like the burritos you can get at Chipotle's in the US...You can put them together yourself, so in theory you can have a different burrito every day, should you want so. But I also have to admit that I couldn't eat MX food every day as the base ingredients are much alike. That is, from what I've seen in the US. I've never been to MX myself, so I can't judge on the quality and diversity of the food there.

>^..^<

M-G (burrito brothers)
MareGaea   
11 Nov 2009
Life / IS IT MY NAME DAY IN POLAND TODAY....? [73]

nameday

I just think Namedays are a cunning trick to have two (or more) birthdays a year, ergo get presents again.

:)

>^..^<

M-G (jealous of two birthdays)
MareGaea   
11 Nov 2009
Food / Why did Taco Bell leave Poland? [82]

Yeah, just one comment: Poles didn't like Taco Bell. Taco Bell didn't sell enough Tacos in PL. So Taco Bell buggered off. That's it. There is no deeper meaning to this.

It's a general thing all across Europe as you don't see much Taco Bells everywhere. But in fact, I doubt if they were ever big in Europe at all.

>^..^<

M-G (are you trying to reach 1000 threads?)
MareGaea   
11 Nov 2009
Genealogy / Polish and Slavic too(?) [7]

Ok, I am delighted you found out about a previous thread. You seem to research PF pretty well, chapeau for that. But....What would your point be? Slavic is a certain group of ppl within the Caucasian race. Poles belong to that group. So do Russians, Ukrainians and a bunch of other ppl. So it's not a seperate race or nationality.

What is your point?

Edit: Let me make this clear by putting up a simple scheme:

Race: Caucasian
Group: Slavic, Germanic, Frankish, Semitic, and so on
Nationality: Polish, Russian, German, Dutch, French, Israelian, Arabian, and so on

>^..^<

M-G (puzzled)
MareGaea   
10 Nov 2009
History / Pole, Jew and dog: all have the same faith. [33]

1jola

That Dutch Heineken commercial is indeed funny, but there are better ones, this one for example:



(for a Dutch insurance company)

>^..^<

M-G (tiens)
MareGaea   
10 Nov 2009
History / 9th November 1989: And the wall came tumbling down [113]

How would you call crimes done by an occupation force during peace times after armistice or defeat?

Crimes. Sjam basically answered that question. If a, for example, British soldier killed another British soldier, it would be investigated by the militairy and he would be tried by the militairy. However, if he would kill a civilian, he would be tried by a civillian judge and pssbly later on by a militairy court as well. War crimes generally only occur when an official state of war exists, as far as I know.

>^..^<

M-G (nearly time to go home again)
MareGaea   
10 Nov 2009
History / 9th November 1989: And the wall came tumbling down [113]

communist war crime is not a crime

Are we talking about Communists' crimes after 1945 or in the period between 1939-1945? Because if they were committed after 1945, technically it's not a war crime as technically there was no war; WW2 ended and until the Yugoslav war, there was no war, at least not openly. Any crime committed by the Soviet between 1939 and 1945 however can pssbly be regarded as a war crime.

>^..^<

M-G (tiens)
MareGaea   
10 Nov 2009
History / 9th November 1989: And the wall came tumbling down [113]

1jola

I was aiming at the publicely naming.

sjam

Come to think about it: they were able to escape communism, indeed: a friend of mine, her uncle was able to emigrate to Canada in 1981. And there were much more like him...She told me that at one point her mom was complaining because a lot of her family members were off to other countries. If it were impossible to leave PL, he and his family and the others would never be able to do that...But I guess it's better to leave the legend of Poles trapped in their country under communism alive...And this comes usually indeed from ppl who are born somewhere else, hence living proof that it was pssbl...Why didn't I think of that before? Must be a flash or something :)

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M-G (gee)
MareGaea   
10 Nov 2009
Life / Presents for Poles (I stay with them for a weekend) [13]

1jola

The vouchers I give are usually for shopping at respected department stores :) However, when the host(s) have kids, I normally give those kids either a toy or gift-vouchers, or I let them pick something from a toyshop. The parents usually appreciate this more than when you give something to them themselves. Generally, it would be about 20 to 30 Euros, which I think seems reasonable. With toys it just depends on how much the toy costs.

>^..^<

M-G (is not the cheapskate you think he is)
MareGaea   
10 Nov 2009
History / 9th November 1989: And the wall came tumbling down [113]

You didn't mention pogroms, which is surprising.

1jola, Sjam is actually right, I think you should address this point instead of replying like this.

Good question indeed: why is Polish collaboration with the communists never mentioned? Is it inconvenient to admit? We hear all the time: Jewish communism, Jewish crimes, Jewish collaboration. I know it must be a taboo, just like Polish collaboration with the Nazis.

You seem to be a reasonable kid, 1jola, pls adress this very good point of Sjam.

>^..^<

M-G (tiens)
MareGaea   
10 Nov 2009
Life / Presents for Poles (I stay with them for a weekend) [13]

I usually give my hosts a voucher for some department store (depends a bit on what he or she likes) or a voucher to buy a cd or dvd or something. Flowers are nice, but if you give a voucher, you give them the opportunity to get something they really like or need. And it's a longer lasting thank you, if you catch my drift.

>^..^<

M-G (tiens)
MareGaea   
10 Nov 2009
History / 9th November 1989: And the wall came tumbling down [113]

niejestemcapita

Thank you for your valuable contribution.

:)

Her name is indeed Ewa Jinek and the "boobies" reference comes from an incident that happened last year: on youtube, a video was leaked that showed her preparing for a newsbroadcast. During the whole time she was blabbering on about if her boobs should be more visible or not. She was not aware that she was being recorded at the time. During that video, she suddenly screams in a high-pitched voice: "booooobies"!!! And that is her nickname ever since. There even has been made a dancetrack with this scream as sample...

(just for those who don't know this story and think that I am just slagging her as donthaveahead thinks I am)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eva_Jinek

It actually turns out that she was born in the US from Czech parents. I thought she was Polish, mea culpa.

>^..^<

M-G (coffee)
MareGaea   
10 Nov 2009
History / 9th November 1989: And the wall came tumbling down [113]

Do you recall where you were and what you thought when you first learnt the wall was being torn down?

Hm, I remember being that nigh (I think it was a Thursday or Friday night) with Friends who lived pretty far away and we were drinking beer while watching the events on TV. Can't really remember what I thought back then, but one of the things I remember quite clearly was that I though when seeing those Eastern Germans standing on "Die Mauer" was: "gee, what a bad taste in clothing they have". Don't know why I thought that as I was clearly aware of the importance of things unfolding on tv, but I somehow remember thinking that. Maybe I was just a bit drunk back then :)

I also remember those images of a long line of Trabant-cars waiting for the Hungarian-Austrian border, which was open for a while in the summer of 1989. I was a bit annoyed by that back then. Why? Because it seemed that Eastern Europeans weren't that unique from then on. It's hard to explain, but before that it was considered quite something if you knew somebody from the Eastern Bloc or had been there, which I was. Now, with the avalanche of Eastern Germans pushing through the border, that sense of uniqueness fell away and that kinda annoyed me.

The same went with Poles. However, that was a more national feeling: we Dutch had helped them survive winters and we made some contacts here and there and for the first few months it was kinda special to see Polish ppl, but soon they came in big numbers to our second-car markets and to see that they bought a piece of junk of a car (usually a Beamer or Mercedes as they had some status) for about 100 Dutch Guilders (about 45-50 Euros), take it home to the Motherland, refurbish it just a bit -or sometimes not even at all- and sold the same piece of junk in PL for ten to twenty times that amount, took away the magic and made most Dutch ppl view Poles as very materialistic. Also, the way they dressed in those days: extremely over-the-top and just a bit too much of everything, did help establish this image.

Of course this behaviour of Poles is understandable, after decades of communism they were like children for the first time away from home, and later on this behaviour changed, but for some reason this first image of Poles, the poor ppl we helped survive through winters, never fully changed yet in NL. Unfortunately.

Of course there were "family-reunions" between families who had received a lot of help and the families who had given that help, but it was this first image the Dutch got from the Poles that was never fully erased and is mainly the reason how Poles are being viewed upon by the masses. Not only in NL, but also in DE. And the massive migration that started literally on 10 May 2004, didn't help to change this image for the better. Although it's getting better: ppl see less and less Poles overdress, they only sparsely buy pieces of junk and when they do, it's for themselves, ppl come to realise that not every Pole steals, at least the vast majority doesn't do so and they've come to know the Poles as hard workers. In NL the outrage of the treatment of illegal Polish (and other former East Bloc) workers has helped raise the sympathy for Poles. We're getting there, but yet there is still a residue of those first impression we got from them. They say that the first impressions are the most important, the first cut is the deepest, and I guess it will take a generation before all the prejudices about Poles have vanished.

But they are underway: it seems that Polish girlies have taken a fondness of Dutch boys and it also seems that Poles, scattered around the country have "assimilated" much better than in Ireland or the UK, for example, while those countries have bigger numbers. We even have a Polish chickadee as one of our newsreaders (or is she Czech? Eva "boooobies" Jinek). We're getting to a truly united Europe. It's a painstakingly slow process, but we're getting there.

>^..^<

M-G (messenger of hope and future and stuff)
MareGaea   
9 Nov 2009
News / Poland's place in changing world order? [74]

i agree but, only as long as EU guaranties high standard of living and minimum of respect for Slavic ethnic interests.

As long as they don't surpass folklore and minor things, those Slavic interests would not be in danger. However if Slavic interests consists of making deals with Russia, it should be a matter of the EU, not of Serbia alone, but I guess everybody understands that. All Serbia's sensitivities will be addressed, just like they were with other memberstates.

would always prefer Warsaw as capitol town then Brussel, BDW. For Brussel i don`t give a sh** but, for Warsaw i am ready to bleed

Well, Brussels is the "capital" of the EU, so that's where you have to go when you're in trouble or when you have questions. And besides, the presidency of the EU changes every 6 months, so Warsaw will be on set times the de facto capital of the EU. Just like Belgrade will be once Serbia has joined.

>^..^<

M-G (tiens)
MareGaea   
9 Nov 2009
News / Poland's place in changing world order? [74]

as long as EU can guaranties higher standard of living to growing population, EU would roll. But, if happens that Russia can offer more

Russia on its own will never be able to offer more than nearly the entire top economies combined. EU has more benefits for Serbia than Russia has. It's very simple. And any Slavic confederation will never be the same as the EU is at the moment. The EU invests in development of its memberstates, a confederation would not. That's a major difference. Serbia will fare well should she be so wise (and it looks like that) to leave any sympathies behind and join the EU...I'm telling you, Crow, it would be really much better for Serbia. Or do you really think that Russia would invest so much (apart from some private things) in Serbia's economy, public life and infrastructure as the EU would do? Don't think so. See, a confederation between Russia and Serbia would be based on business alone, while a membership of the EU means also social, economical, educational, commercial and public development. Surely Crow, you don't want to miss out on that, wouldn't you? At least not for some obsolete ideas? Ideas don't fill your stomach you know, but food does ;)

Edit: so in short, I do think that an EU membership would increase the standard of living for Serbia. At least, if they don't f*ck up like the Greek did...

>^..^<

M-G (don't let the smiley mislead you into thinking that I am better mooded right now)
MareGaea   
9 Nov 2009
News / Poland's place in changing world order? [74]

Crow

Very simple: if Serbia would be tempted to tie a knot with Russia on her own, she will be called to a halt by Brussels. If she doesn't adhere to this, indeed, she should leave the EU, just like any other country that feels that they can act on its own like this.

And if SK and CZ support Serbia (this will not happen btw), then they can leave too :) We don't need them, they need us. And the mere fact that they need the EU more than they need Russia will make them think twice about taking such a step. Serbia will most likely decline any Russian advance to her, should she be a member of the EU. Slavic interests, as far as they exist, are nice and cool, but they should be kept where they belong: in folklore. Since Russia doesn't pay them, but the EU does, they would be very silly to risk stopping the gravy train for some obsolete idea of Slavic brotherhood. It doesn't work that way anymore. You don't want to bite the hand that feeds you. But of course, it's all hypothetically - in real situations this will never occur.

Edit: and should the Polish intelligentia stand up and take a stand for Serbia, Brussels will tell them politely, but firmly to shut up :)

>^..^<

M-G (bad mooded)
MareGaea   
9 Nov 2009
News / Poland's place in changing world order? [74]

For what, exactly? You only cost us money. For the markets? Well, you can be our market even if you're outside the EU - we can create some free-trade zone.

>^..^<

M-G (grmbl!)
MareGaea   
9 Nov 2009
News / Poland's place in changing world order? [74]

jwojcie

I don't like it when any member does this. Germany has done this, I don't like it and the UK acts at times as if it weren't a member of the EU at all. I don't like that. The idea is present the EU as a kind of monolith to powers outside. Seperate treaties and the like are only undermining the idead. If any memberstate just does what it likes, what's the point of having a EU then? So, to me it does not matter who does it, I don't condone such behaviour.

What if Russians suddenly decide to do with Poland solely and not with the rest of the EU?

In the highly unlikely event that this would happen, PL should say to the Russians that they would have to deal with the EU if they want to deal with PL.

>^..^<

M-G (grmbl)
MareGaea   
9 Nov 2009
News / Poland's place in changing world order? [74]

Yet it's a great pleasure to see PF#1s subconsciously pro-Polish Russian (Const) and subconsciously pro-Russian Pole (Borrka) generously exchanging their fraternal feelings towards each other. :)

Now that we've established that we are all happy together, what exactly would be your point on Poland's position in the changing world order?

My previous rant about the core-EU was aimed at any member-state who aims at tying up tight relationships with non-EU members as I think that is not the idea of membership of the EU. PL, as member of the EU, can very well tie relationships with Russia, however, it should do so within the EU-context, not on it's own. In other words: the EU should strike up relations with Russia and PL will join in as member, but it should not be that PL on its own starts a relationship with RU. That would destroy the entire idea of the EU and is generally not wanted. And it doesn't matter if the Poles see the Russians as their brothers. That concept is subordinate to the concept of the EU.

And if PL (or any other memberstate) doesn't like this concept, they are free to leave as the new Lisbon treaty actually gives memberstates the option to leave the EU. But I just wonder how any former memberstate will hold on outside the EU.

>^..^<

M-G (mood is not going to get good today, unfortunately)
MareGaea   
9 Nov 2009
News / Poland's place in changing world order? [74]

future of this organisation

Yeah, I foresee a dim future if we keep on letting everybody in. I support going back to the original Six memberstates, pssbly with the addition of Sweden, Denmark and the UK, the latter one having to comply completely and fully to the EU-charters. That would be good. The remainder can serve as satellite-states, good as markets, but for the rest we don't need them.

Yes - this means a EU which consists of: Belgium, France, Germany, Italy, Luxemburg, Netherlands and pssbly Denmark, Sweden and the UK.

I'm starting to have enough of poor countries which have been sucking money up like a spunge, don't contribute anything except dangerous flirtations and bringing in a lot of cr*p into the EU and do nothing than complain about the EU. You should be f*cking grateful that you are allowed to be part of the EU.

Back to the core EU, with 3 additions and the remaining 18 states function as marketplace for us. The EU will still be the economically strongest state in the world and we don't have to constantly pay for the poor brothers and receive nothing but complains in return.

The EU could be strong and rich as hell, but it's the poor brothers that keep pushing the average down.

>^..^<

M-G (grumpy and grouchy)
MareGaea   
8 Nov 2009
News / JEW YOUTH SHOULD CLEAN UP THEIR ACT IN POLAND [420]

MareGaea's statement about the number of Polish victims in Auchwitz

I gave the numbers as they were shown in the documentary I watched and they claim it's from all pssbl sources taken. That's all. It was just the next one in a line of educated guesses, like this one:

In 1983, French scholar George Wellers was one of the first to use German data on deportations to estimate the number killed at Auschwitz, arriving at 1.613 million dead, including 1.44 million Jews and 146,000 Catholic Poles.[44] A larger study started later by Franciszek Piper used timetables of train arrivals combined with deportation records to calculate 960,000 Jewish deaths and 140,000-150,000 ethnic Polish victims, along with 23,000 Roma and Sinti (Gypsies).[45] This number has met with "significant, though not complete" agreement among scholars.[46]

In general it's not pssbl to exactly state how many ppl died at Auschwitz, because the Nazis destroyed part of their bookkeeping. However, the number of Jews perished there can safely established at a million, while indeed the number of Poles is higher at 150.000, but the documentary mentions explicitely 21.000 Polish political prisoners, not the average Piotr. I do agree that it's a lot ppl for one place, but then again, Auschwitz was unique in so many ways :(

Edit: I still remember Joepilsudski's statement that the most probable number of Jewish deaths in Auschwitz lay around 47.000. But we all know that Joe is a bit confused.:)

>^..^<

M-G (tiens)
MareGaea   
8 Nov 2009
News / 14 year old rape victim from Warsaw denied abortion! [348]

Seanus

Thank you for this explanation. I have nothing to add to this for now.

Another point that I would like to have addressed in this thread is: all the ppl who are so against abortion seem to be mordicus against the use of anti-conception too. In my opinion, one of the very few options one has to push back the number of abortions are those anti-conception. Yet it seems they are against those too. Can anybody explain?

>^..^<

M-G (what else is there? Go into celibacy? Must be a joke.)
MareGaea   
8 Nov 2009
News / JEW YOUTH SHOULD CLEAN UP THEIR ACT IN POLAND [420]

I dont know where they lived, i know where a guy who is the founder of my family lived, he was a peasant farmer from somewhere in eastern France and he was probably a German, if for you someone who's ancestor was German ~40 generations ago aint Polish thats pretty fvcked up

I'm just following your own reasoning: my family has lived for nearly 500 years in NL, therefore it's a Dutch family. But according to you they are still Jews. So, following your reasoning, you're half French, half German.

they built their countries on the homes of others

That is not even true...

i can suffer stupidity

Doesn't surprise me, you suffer your own stupidity every bleeding day.

I also mind when Maregea comes here ignores every relevant point made about Jewish behavior then lies, insults Poland and outright claims that we Poles deserve Jewish racism.

I was here before you, so that takes care of that. Every relevant point? Relevant points that only anti-semites see, neutral sources are completely being cut off by yourself as lies. You know, not many ppl here like you because you have no manners whatsoever, you're racist and generally are a disgrace for the good-willing Polish ppl. Ahwww, did I insult Poland? Don't start crying now, you little sissy; you have insulted just about everything and everybody else, so don't expect any sympathy. Pls exclude yourself from the Polish ppl, because the vast majority are good and honest ppl, it's nasty exceptions like you that give the Poles a bad name. But I don't hate Poland nor do I hate the Poles. I only deeply dislike you as you're the kind of person we don't want anymore in the 21st century.

>^..^<

M-G (tiens)