Love / How Many Dates Before Sex in Poland? [86]


This forum's full of them.
Actually, I was wondering if someone was talking about ointment or something.

News / Dealing with constant insults against Polish [323]

Having a lack of knowledge about facts underlines his lack of sense in matters that are those purely of opinion.

Life / The Polish Moustache [35]

I have grown a goatee, but only for the winter. I don't really like it.

I do sometimes try to imagine clean-shaven people with moustaches, sometimes with retro hairstyles as well. Only about three of the Poles I've worked with had moustaches, but I bet many more had had moustaches in the past.

Real Estate / People who bought in Katowice Oak teraces phase I and phase II [102]

with a karate chop on the co!

News / What did Poland get out of the wars and struggles for others? [1108]


Something that more than one poster on this thread seems to be advocating as the best course of action.

Language / SARKOZY -- SARKOZY'EGO or SARKOZEGO? [14]


How can his name be placed in a Polish sentence then?

Language / Jechac or Jezdzic? [35]


If it involves horses or Polish, I'd trust Krysia any day of the week too, including Wednesdays.
I don't know much about Michal's knowledge of horses.

Love / How Many Dates Before Sex in Poland? [86]

Dates can have a laxative effect which could cause disruption at bedtime.

News / What did Poland get out of the wars and struggles for others? [1108]

Language / Jechac or Jezdzic? [35]

ku Londynowie / do Londynu

Maybe Michal goes towards London but never actually gets there, a bit like the way he can't quite make it as far as a Russian forum so he only gets as far as Poland.

UK, Ireland / POLISH MAN DIES IN FALL FROM FERRY in IRELAND..... [22]

I think I prefer the ocean to just sea. Partly because it is powerful and can be a dangerous place. Notice how all the "island people" get involved on this thread. Poor old Poland only having a tiny little coastline!

Actually, my favourite beach is on the Isle of Wight, just east of Fishbourne where the car ferries dock. The beach at low tide can extend for about a kilometre or so. To get technical, the beach is something like a wavecut platform on the local stratum of London Clay, with sandy mud and vast quantities of littoral lifeforms - including coastal grass species, diverse seaweeds and all kinds of creatures with unlikely numbers of legs (most marine life is pretty weird - anyone know much about barnacles?)

Ferries roll by every half hour or so, but as it is the Isle of Wight, it's pretty much an estuary rather than a sea by world standards. Even so, crossings do have to be cancelled on a safe route like Fishbourne to Portsmouth sometimes.

Unfortunately, I haven't caught the shipping forecast recently. If I had, I might have a better idea of what happened on that fateful crossing to Ireland.

UK, Ireland / POLISH MAN DIES IN FALL FROM FERRY in IRELAND..... [22]

I always felt as though I should have gone to sea. My father worked for some years on oil tankers, but I never got much further than a few short ferry crossings and a fishing trip off Beaumaris.

Never mention farm animals when at sea, especially pigs. If you must, then refer to them euphemistically.

- O'Siol, the old long-eared Irish sailor.

UK, Ireland / POLISH MAN DIES IN FALL FROM FERRY in IRELAND..... [22]

May he rest in peace, poor chap. Sympathy to his family, particularly those who were with him at the time.

I've been om quite a few ferries: across the Solent and the English Channel. I imagine the longer journey from Fishguard to Rosslare can be prone to rougher seas. My brother used to take that boat when he lived in Ireland. I don't think he ever missed the opportunity to get slightly drunk on the crossing.

Even sober, if you're outside on deck and the wind's blowing, the might of the elements and the sea roaring below you can make you feel as though you are totally at its mercy... and that can be just pulling into Pompey Harbour on a crossing from the Pile of Shight.

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Just ignore the attention seeker - let's try not to give him the oxygen of publicity (some of us wouldn't even like to give him oxygen, full stop!)

Life / WHAT HAPPENED TO ŚWIĘTY MIKOŁAJ? [17]


Perhaps they should have. If it all happened a few years later, they probably would have done.


I doubt it.

I've often thought:

Fat b@stard & chimney - it's not going to work
Chimney & glass-fronted fireplace - it's not going to work
Osioł & co-cack-ola - it's just not going to work


Is this proper Polish?

Genealogy / Anyone know a shorter version of the name "Napierkowski?" [5]

Well, it's not Napierapierkowskiowskiowskiski.

It derives from the Scottish name Napier, apparently. The word derives from Old French: nappe meaning a cloth (as in napkin), -ier meaning someone who does things with it (ie. someone who works with or deals cloth, or possibly linen), and the Polish suffix (or suffixes) -owski. I had read somewhere that -owski denotes that the name is of a place or of where the person or name came from wheras just -ski doesn't. However, there should be experts around here to explain that a little more precisely.

News / What did Poland get out of the wars and struggles for others? [1108]


Go back and read it again. I said that was a possibilty that never happened.


Yes.

News / What did Poland get out of the wars and struggles for others? [1108]

Anyway, the final answers are:

An independent nation state with little or nothing by way of ethnic or religious tension,
a distinct national culture that can continue to exist where it has been taken abroad,
a reasonably strong position in the group of countries with which it shares a similar modern history,
people who have moved away to better their lives, some of whom are returning (compare this with Ireland, for example). There are possibly greater effects that could be noted if one were to look further back into history.

Other possibilities could have left Poland in a similar position to Belarus or Ukraine - still too much under the sway of Moscow to be able to make choices about what it may do; division between neighbouring countries (Germany, Russia) that could be with or without a Polish minority, leaving the strong possibility of ethnic or religious tension; really dodgy food culture.

I think that answers the question, even if I haven't entirely explained the exact processes by which this has come about.

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By the way, the skip I had been looking at (see my last post), a load of bricks and rubble had been dumped on top of the fence panels and 4x4 that I was thinking of using to make a new garden gate. So instead, I've pinched a load of bricks so I might be able to work on the smoker I've been planning to build in my garden for the best part of a year now.

News / What did Poland get out of the wars and struggles for others? [1108]


Well, I don't want him... but then who does?

Is anyone allowed to give a final conclusive answer to the question posed by this thread?

I'm just off out now to rummage in a skip just down the road from my flat. I saw some useful bits of wood and possibly some discarded plumbing material there when I went past in the daytime, so anyone is free to let me know if I can finish this thread before I return.

News / What did Poland get out of the wars and struggles for others? [1108]


Are you?


RE: Conrad "Lord" Black:
He is Canadian.

News / POLES the BLACKS of EUROPE? [104]

If Poles are the blacks of Europe, who are the Poles of Africa?

Polish is the new black?

News / What did Poland get out of the wars and struggles for others? [1108]


You haven't answered my question about the start of the war. Maybe that's one for Hateful to answer.

As for Katyn and Sikorski, these are subjects that I know too little about. Spiteful arguments don't teach lessons though.

On the subject of Yalta, I don't believe there was anything Britain could have done, although it was a failure. Just look at who the real powers were by that time.

News / What did Poland get out of the wars and struggles for others? [1108]


France has had times of greater power. Look at what Napoleon did. He thrived on luck to a great extent, and so did Britain in its dealings with him. As for British leadership, at the start of the war, a certain Neville Chamberlain was prime minister of Britain, and not Winston Churchill who was a very different kind of person.

So, if Britain did, yet France did not betray Poland at the start of the war, how can this discrepancy be explained?

At the end of the war in Europe - that is another story, however, most of this argument recently has been about 1939.

Is it too early to ask what is the answer for the present day?


Hear hear! Or should I say: hear fackin hear!
Damn accent!

News / What did Poland get out of the wars and struggles for others? [1108]


... then Germany would have won, quite simply. Then Western Europe would have been finished.

Did France not declare war on Germany on the same day as Britain? Did France not save Poland? So where does this double standard come from?

News / What did Poland get out of the wars and struggles for others? [1108]


Poland should have sided with those who wanted to destroy it. Interesting angle there.

As it has been pointed out, whether I agree with Harry on very many issues or not (which I generally don't, I have found on this forum), it would not have been possible for Britain to have launched some sort of attack on Germany in 1939, and as for it being necessary for Britons to die on Polish soil for Britain's declaration of war on Germany to mean anything, I simply use three letters: wtf!

France never betrayed Poland... France did what though?

History / UPA barbarian murders on Polish and Jewish neighbors during WW2 [150]


Because one we find on PF with Jewish ancestry recently moved to England, and the chap I work with who looks like Woody Allen also lives in England. They were the last two if they counted at all.

News / What did Poland get out of the wars and struggles for others? [1108]


More accurately: you have pointed your finger. Now please go and find some logic while I go and pour myself a large drink.

News / What did Poland get out of the wars and struggles for others? [1108]

Was it Harry who declared war? I'm going to have to tear a few pages out of a few history books now.


Ronseal poster.

I really am going to attempt to leave this thread now.

News / What did Poland get out of the wars and struggles for others? [1108]

Okay, so do nothing in the face of an aggressor and go to heaven an angel.

I'm not coming back to this thread in a hurry.

News / What did Poland get out of the wars and struggles for others? [1108]

HatefulBunch, are you a member of the Hateful Club? Just wondering.

Is guilt can arise from doing something that is still too little, what about countries that did nothing or were the actual aggressors?