UK, Ireland / Pictures of Kirkham & Wesham FC parade [10]

Did you know there was an ethnic on your bus, Mr ARSE ?

I bet you had it hosed out afterwards.

UK, Ireland / Taking a UK-registered car to Poland [35]

All systems are open to abuse, but this inaction from the Government isn't doing anyone any favours as it just fuels resentment between different communities.


I hope you don't regret it and can fully understand your reasons for shipping out. Sadly, I don't speak a 2nd language, so I wouldn't be of much use in another EU country or I would give it a go too.

UK, Ireland / Taking a UK-registered car to Poland [35]


Yes I take all you're saying onboard and I know it wouldn't be easy, but something has to be done. This is part of the reason the British feel so walked over at the moment. If I didn't need a car for work, I would sell the damn thing and not bother. I wasn't saying check everyone, I was saying checks should be made on those without a return ticket who are clearly not on holiday.

If someone is coming here to live, then they should expect paperwork.


It is a huge mess and this apology for a Government (I'm ashamed to say I voted for them) don't want to do anything to clear it up.

UK, Ireland / Taking a UK-registered car to Poland [35]

I'm not referring to holidaymakers, I'm talking about people moving here to live or at least live here longer than a few months. People who would ordinarily buy a car here, but why should they when they can bring their own and avoid many of the costs the rest of us have to pay ?


That's just an argument against being in the EU before stuff like this was ironed out properly.

The whole expansion to the EU was too much too soon.

UK, Ireland / Taking a UK-registered car to Poland [35]

Hi Smokeyone

I hope you're getting the info you need one way or another and sorry for wandering from the point a little.

It's just that it does bug me rather a lot to see so many foreign registered cars (not just Polish by any means) running around and no real checks being made. It's the system that's at fault and I wrote to my MP to say just that and her reply made no reference to my concerns about foreign registered cars and road tax.


When someone brings a car into the country, there should be some form filling done and checks carried out. Anyone without a return ticket would be assumed they were here for the longhaul and made to register their car with a British registration number. Further checks would then have to be made to make sure any return ticket was then used.

It's a paperwork nightmare that the UK Government and DVLA can't be bothered with.


They would also need something in place so that people didn't just go home for the weekend to avoid paying more for their cars.

Again, it's something the Government/DVLA just don't want to deal with.

UK, Ireland / First generation Pole in the UK [24]


Glad you didn't take offence :-)


They sure do, but seem to happen more and more these days, but sadly by people who really don't know they've made a mistake.

UK, Ireland / First generation Pole in the UK [24]


You're: abbreviation of you are.

UK, Ireland / Taking a UK-registered car to Poland [35]

I remember when it was called the "Road Fund Licence", so yes it was originally to help pay for the upkeep of the roads. I think it is now called "Vehicle Excise Duty" or similar. Whatever it's called, the roads are still bad.

I agree that it is is very unlikely to be scrapped, which is even more reason for ALL cars that are here permanently should pay it.

I would have thought that this tax hungry Government would have noticed this, but they never do as it would go against their "foreigners comes first" policy.

UK, Ireland / Polak moving to north-west England [56]

While I wouldn't advocate a move to the ass end of the UK and end up in a place like Manchester, there are plenty of safe places to live where all kinds of people from all kinds of backgrounds rub along ok just fine.

Are the KKK meetings held at your house ? ;-)

UK, Ireland / Polak moving to north-west England [56]

With the small town mentality to go with it.

UK, Ireland / Taking a UK-registered car to Poland [35]

I agree that some cars would belong to people on holiday and that's fair enough, but I am seeing cars with foreign plates parked outside houses in residential areas that have been here at least a year.

That is something different again and the DVLA need a process in place to get these cars either registered or out of the country.

As we've both said, they should just get rid of road tax and raise the cash through petrol instead.

UK, Ireland / Polak moving to north-west England [56]


Sorry if you're scared, it's not my intention to do that.

I don't live there but have visited quite a few times and have never really liked it. While London is probably worse for gun crime, it is a problem in Manchester too.

Like "Arise St George" said on the other thread about the terrible murder in Leeds (and I don't agree with him often) people coming here to live really do need to find out about the areas they are moving too.

Does your friend have a job lined up ? Can he afford a decent place to live in a decent area ? Has he thought about other places ?

UK, Ireland / WHY DO POLISH PEOPLE THAT COME TO ENGLAND CAN'T SPEAK ENGLISH? [118]


Fair enough.

Generally speaking, I would say that anyone wanting to live here on a longterm basis and is serious about the language side of things, should enrol on a course.

Relying on picking it up from others just means you'll learn how to swear and how to use words in the wrong context.

Have said that, I can think of quite a few English people who could benefit from some lessons too :-)

UK, Ireland / WHY DO POLISH PEOPLE THAT COME TO ENGLAND CAN'T SPEAK ENGLISH? [118]

If you try, then that's a good start.

Try and avoid slang like "geezers" though, unless you want to sound common :-)

Have you enrolled in a language course ?

UK, Ireland / Polak moving to north-west England [56]

No, it's not.

Manchester is a typical Northern dump full of depressed, ugly people who hate everyone and everything.

If your friend wants to buy a gun and get into a fight, he'll be fine.

UK, Ireland / Taking a UK-registered car to Poland [35]


This applies to cars registered in the UK only. The DVLA has no records for cars registered elsewhere, so they do get away with not paying road tax etc.


I don't know how insurance works between countries, my main beef is with those who manage to dodge paying road tax by not registering their cars as being in the UK on a permanent basis.

UK, Ireland / Taking a UK-registered car to Poland [35]


Very sensible, I wish the British Government would do something similar.

I know the Polish don't make the rules, but it does annoy me to see so many Polish and other EU registered cars running around the place, without having to pay road tax.

Most of them are very smart looking Mercs, BMWs and chunky 4x4s, so the owners can't say they wouldn't be able to afford to register them and do it properly.

UK, Ireland / Polish teenager murdered after arriving in UK [117]

timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article3897758.ece

A life sentence ?

Is that the one where they get out in 15 years or less, still with plenty of years left to live after years of the tax payer paying for their plasma screens and gym equipment ?

UK, Ireland / Are the Poles in England hated? [450]


"While the growing number of immigrants entering Britain is well reported, there are also an increasing number of British citizens moving overseas. The Office for National Statistics estimate that of those emigrating in 2006, 71,000 moved to EU countries, mainly France and Spain."

I think that was her diplomatic way of saying that I can join the numbers that are leaving if I don't like the current situation. She ignored the points I raised about the growing numbers of foreign cars on the roads that don't pay tax and the fact that immediate entitlement to public services is unfair and is causing a huge strain.

She wasn't bothered.

UK, Ireland / Are the Poles in England hated? [450]

Of course they don't care. I knew that anyway, but any hope I did have was blown out the water by the reply I got from my MP when I wrote to her recently about this.

However, anyone from Poland (or anywhere else for that matter) should soon realise the British Government only wants their tax and NI and it will only be the ones fleecing the benefits system that will probably want to stay.

At the next election, the Government may make a few token gestures to try and sort the problem out, but I doubt it will be enough to make the system function as it should.

UK, Ireland / Are the Poles in England hated? [450]


It's a numbers thing and there are simply too many people coming from a whole number of countries (not just Poland) and we just feel overwhelmed.

As well as feeling overwhelmed and pushed aside in favour of anyone else that isn't British, the current Government refuses to believe that there is any kind of a problem or doing anything about it.

There was nothing put in place to try and manage immigration, so this is breeding resentment. It will get worse before it gets better unless the Government does something.

And by the way, I know they pay taxes like the rest of us, but we're talking three or four years maximum so far from immigrants recently moved here. Try paying in for 20, 30, 40 years plus and then see people from another country picking up a free prescription or similar, while barely being able to understand what's being said to them and see if you feel your hackles rise.

The Polish aren't doing anything wrong, the system is at fault, but if the system wasn't so lousy, would they have come in the first place ?

UK, Ireland / Boris Johnson has been declared the Mayor of London [25]


You couldn't spare 10 minutes ?

Shame on you.

UK, Ireland / WHY DO POLISH PEOPLE THAT COME TO ENGLAND CAN'T SPEAK ENGLISH? [118]


Should the British go to Poland as the Government here are very selfish and don't care about the British ?

UK, Ireland / UK is Poles apart from home [39]


Thanks, I'll know what to look out for when I visit Poland as it's certainly on my list of places to go. I want to see if there is anyone left there :-)

I think the UK will end up with more flats as that will probably be the only way to solve the housing shortage.


I agree. The downturn in the economy in the UK is bad for everyone.

UK, Ireland / UK is Poles apart from home [39]

I'm not throwing down my heavy hand, Seanus, nor am I trying "punish the poor" by not allowing them to have children, Sophia. Just having an opinion.

I'm sure that Anastazya will have a much better life with Piotr and Anna as parents than what a British "Vicky Pollard" would be dishing out. I just think it's a sad world that their life above a butchers shop in Barking is actually better than what they might have had in their home country.

UK, Ireland / UK is Poles apart from home [39]

I know, which is why we have parents of children who are little more than children themselves.

Which is probaby why there seem to be so many problems with teens these days.


More people should really ask themselves if having kids is the best idea.

Just because you can have them doesn't mean you should.

UK, Ireland / UK is Poles apart from home [39]


I have an opinion which isn't the same as yours. Deal with it.


I agree they are and doing well. I just think they've rushed into starting a family.


Since you ask, yes they did. My folks had been together almost ten years before they had my brother, partly so they could establish a reasonable standard of living first.

UK, Ireland / UK is Poles apart from home [39]

That's my whole point though.

They should have waited until they could afford somewhere bigger before having a child. They seem rather on a knife edge cash wise and bringing a child into it seems wrong to me.

UK, Ireland / UK is Poles apart from home [39]


I hear what you're saying, but I still stand by my original point.

I don't think Piotr and Anna should have had a child until they could provide something better than what is basically a bed-sit.

They're not living within their means if they've gone and done that.

UK, Ireland / UK is Poles apart from home [39]


I'm not going to apologise for saying that a tiny flat above a butchers isn't the best place for a child.

This is a kid they had after they moved here, so they had a choice. Just because it might be better than what they would have had in Poland doesn't make it right.

Having children is a honour and a privilege, not a right. There are enough kids in britain on the poverty line as it is.