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POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]
I read the thread and it was the usual misinformed Polish tripe
Let's how well informed you are.
about how the Brits sold them out (ignoring the fact that the Soviet Union had the biggest strongest army in the world which was already mobilised)
The strength of the Soviet army was tested less 20 years before. Poland which just regain independence crushed that mighty army with its meager army. That same army was running eastward from the Germans like rabbits, with no resistance to speak of. Then they received badly needed and huge military help from the West. Without it things might have looked differently. Oh, and let's not forget that Stalin was so desperate with his "almighty army" that he decided to use, among others, Polish prisoners from the Gulag system - nearly 100,000 of them.
the Brits never attacked Hitler (ignoring Chamberlin and Dunkirk), the Brits only defended Poland to protect her empire (even though she lost her empire in said defence of Poland).
If medical emergency crews reacted with similar speed they would be called funeral home employees.
Poles seem to forget the Molotov/Ribbentrop pact & the fact that Hitler wanted to preserve the British Empire initially (read it in Mein Kampf if you doubt).
RIbentrop/Molotov pact had little to do with the British empire. As for Hitler's stance, he actually wanted to get the spoils of the crumbling British empire. He sought Soviet support. Soviet response was inconclusive.
The British did not actually have to fight at all.
Hitler believed they were true aryan people and wanted them as his allies.
Another myth. Britain would be dead with most of Europe controlled by Germans. Germans would dictate pretty much every aspect of European activities, economy being just one of those, but one that would pretty much destroy British economy.
Poles conveniently tend to forget that the Soviet Union was the superpower in this side of the world, what exactly did they expect Britain to do?
I already addressed that myth.
If it was so easy, why didn't the Poles just not surrender to Hitler in the first place - then we would never had this mess!?
That is the Irish spirit, not Polish.
Poles are so ignorant of the facts, they don't even realise that FDR & Stalin were on good terms and Churchill was simply the third wheel.
We do realize that. Churchill was indeed FDR's puppet.
I have had this conversation with many Poles, and the one common theme is that they never acknowledge the true facts, but instead twist them in order to alleviate themselves of their national shame and defer the blame to someone else.
National shame in what?
Poland, even when defeated net its obligations. Poles fought for Britain. Brits waited when Poland was attacked. Shame's on the Brits.
The most bizzare issue is the fact that Poland has her own completely independent history of the war, which doesn't correlate with any Allied or Axis accounts.
Accounts of the Allies? Where were they during WW2? Not in Poland. What do they know?
The Soviets? If you believe in the Soviet accounts then that pretty much settles it :)
When we learn history in school, we are taught that the Russians defeated Hitler in Europe, the British defeated Hitler in Africa, and the Americans liberated Western Europe and beat the Japanese.
The Poles have a mere mention in similar terms as the French resistance.
The mere mention is not a reflection of the input. In fact, Poles were even less than a mere mention when they were not even initially invited to the Victory Parade in 1945. The 4th largest army in Europe was not invited to celebrate the end of WW2.
Poles do not expect to occupy majority of British history manuals, but the mere mentions speak more about Brits than about Poles.
Yet, when you discuss this history with a Pole, they would have you believe that the Poles actually defeated Hitler and the Russians simply arrived in time to kill their scholars. If the Poles were so virile, why didn't they just defeat the Russians too?
I dunno what every Pole says about WW2, but again, Poles did defeat Russians.
dannyboy, your show of ignorance of basic facts of WW2 is startling.
