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isthatu   
19 Jan 2008
Life / Racist violence in Poland [172]

What you may find is that people have the same prejudices as they do around the world,the difference being where as in the "west" people tend to keep their grubby attitudes to themselves out of shame or fear of arrest/a kicking in Poland you will find that the Archie bunker types that pop up here have no one telling them to shut up.

Its a glaring issue,when we have a rascist UK troll all the brits will gang up and haze them,a rascist Polish troll and a thunderous silence from his countrymen.........
isthatu   
19 Jan 2008
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

Not sure Carol,check a London website,I am sure there will be one :)
And matthies,just having a Harry Palmer moment :) Seriously though,its a big problem,I know some great russians but when it gets down to discusing history or russia in generel the "party" line comes up,crikey ,the USSR hasnt existed for what,16 years but still its like no one dares deviate from the official line in case someone overhears...even if the question is just a generel one like those Ive asked,Im only looking for the russian on the streets opinion not the one filtered through the media and am greeted with suspision and sarcasm.....
isthatu   
18 Jan 2008
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

Thus, I dont understand, why do you have such thoughts that all Russians pray on Stalin's images in their peasants cottedges during long winter nights to the howlings of wolfs, under the light of torches?

That would be your interpretation and a twist of my question Kostya.I do not feel all russians adore him,or live in the conditions you seem to want to portray to the world,shame on you for contributining to the negative stereotype of russia. I hope your control does not read this forum ;).

If it takes a good tv show to help educate people,why not,I have read some Solzhenitsin so will look out for the dvd,will sit nicely with strafbat and zvyezda.

isthatu wrote:
London last weekend; Trafalgar square taken over fir the russian winter festival,Moscow today Bbritish culture workers get arrested on jumped up charges........welcome to the 1980s part II

You are not right, or just represent Brittish point of view for common opinion.
Russia has their own legislative and if England whant to have any organisations in Russia, she must obey Russian Laws and registrate them in compliance with common Russian practice.

And you sir sound just like an old edition of Pravda. Why so defensive? I was merely pointing out that while our Politicions are desperatly trying to show who has the bigger "sword" our Capitol city's main square was given over to a festival of Russian culture. How is this repayed? By intimidation of Russian staff members of a British cultural department. If I am just going to get a party line response,please,dont waste your breath,I can turn to old Novosti press publications for the standard responses and at the same time feel a pang of nostalgia for a time when "we" may have been "enemies" but at least there was a level of respect. Your country cries foul over some British artist types,my country cries foul over murder by radiation on our soil,go weigh those two up .....
isthatu   
18 Jan 2008
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

No,just an everyday russian on the street type,genuinly interests me,is it a hark back to the days of being Big Man? Is it because stalin was efectivly a persona non grata since the 1950s so he is somehow detached from the memories of crumbling soviet power in the 80s ,like some sort of Rock Star he died before the dream got old? No one can doubt they guy was a lunatic,there cant be a family in russia who didnt lose someone to one of his round ups yet there seems a genuine harking back to him. Its almost like an abused child defending its guilty parent in court...really hard for an outsider to figure...
isthatu   
18 Jan 2008
History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]

As falskster says, we choose and measure up how far we can go,after all,nothing would be more embaresing than a joke deeply offending or hurting someone,thats why,even though we mention there are jokes about most situations,the actual "jokes" havnt been posted apart from "our" ones.
isthatu   
18 Jan 2008
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

Id say the last one is definatly brown rather than pink.......Can any russian give me a serious answer as to just why stalin is becoming popular again? He did after all order the deaths of more soviet citizins than adolf ever did.....
isthatu   
17 Jan 2008
Life / Compulsory National Service in Poland [26]

I like the idea of a trained youth, versed in the art of weapons handling

we have that ,in Sarf london an' Mossside innit.
isthatu   
17 Jan 2008
Life / Horticulture in Poland [63]

There is apparently( isay apparently because I know very little on the subject) a very good botanical gardens in Gliwice ,set in a nice park and,if I recal all "victorian" ironwork and glass main building. The local student who was showing me around raved about it and he seemed to know his stuff ,pointing to all sorts of plants and splurrging out fancy sounding names...I think I shattered a myth that day,the one about "englishmen" all loving gardening.
isthatu   
17 Jan 2008
Life / Are there many Polish farmers? [12]

One thing you notice about Polish farms,or indead Poland,when you fly in is that the border with germany is clear.One side is large pastureland,the other,the Polish side turns into almost medievil style strip farms(not a slur,if it aint broke,dont fix it :) ) ,narrow strips of different crops,its very colourfull,and as I say ,almost a time machine ride into a long forgoton scenery for western europe.
isthatu   
17 Jan 2008
UK, Ireland / Anti-Polish sentiment of England [253]

ok,redundant now as noimagination has removed his usual message of peace n love....but....
no they wouldnt,Romanians much prefer Italy ,and frankly ,who can blame them? :)
La Dolce Vita or a wet saturday night with fish n chips?
isthatu   
17 Jan 2008
History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]

I think it was a survical tech. because if they looked to close at what was going on they would go nuts. Before they cracked

Do you think this is any different to the stress londoners face after a transport attack,do you realise just how many times london has come under terrorist attacks.If you took it seriously you'd never get to work,go to the theater or even drink in a Pub,all have been bombed in london.
isthatu   
17 Jan 2008
Life / Do Polish people respect other cultures? [96]

British people call Irish travellers Gypsy even they are not gypsies.

no we dont,we call them Pikeys,or thieving baste......

In Poland if someone invites you for a meal at home or give you some home made cake - even if you don't like it you eat it politely.
English will make faces, moan spit....zero manners.

maybe you just cant bake iwona?

Quoting: iwona, Post #9
The same if someone invites you for dinner at home they always highlight how much they have spent on it ...just to make you feel uncomfortable.

Why do you feel uncomfortable,is it far more than you would spend on a guest?
isthatu   
17 Jan 2008
History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]

Out of respect for the victims or those still suffering.

well,of course you wouldnt walk up to a survivor and say "heard the one about the suicide bomber?" and most of the worst ones will never apear in the media,just word of mouth or txt msgs.

So if no one finds humor in the holocaust,how come that italian fella won an Oscor?
Basic thing is,lifes funny, we are all born between *** and **** and we end our lives dribbling in nappies,if you dont find humor wherever you can what happens,whats the alternative? a bleak outlook and an early connery?
isthatu   
17 Jan 2008
History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]

yes,carol,every one,from IRA attacks to;

there was these 2 women walking down the edgware road in their hijabs... one turns to the other and asks 'does my bomb look big in this...?' but whatever, you see londoners are used to this sort of thing... the bombings are like london buses.... you wait ages for one to arrive, then four come along at once...

from john lennon jokes to princess di jokes, like I say,nothing is sacred from the grapevine jokes over here. I know you singled out 9/11 as well,remember carol,a few hundred british people died that day . And yes,there are holocaust jokes often told by jewish comediens aswell.

Dont any other countries apart from UK have black humor?
isthatu   
17 Jan 2008
History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]

Sorry M' got to be with Bubba on this,those cracked me up. I dont know what its like in Poland but here in the UK if a disaster happens the first thing you hear is whats happened,the second thing you hear is a joke,often within hours they fly round the country.Nothing is sacred,all topics covered from maddie jokes to 9/11 jokes,not all funny but a few.Its a way of dealing with things,it was the same in the Blitz,you lost your home/wife/favourite carddie and slippers there would be a joke.

You should hear the humor of our Police and fire service,anything you hear on this forum is safe for granny compared to the humor of british emergency workers.

ps, lukassz baby,for the last time,Im not jewish........you odd little man.
isthatu   
17 Jan 2008
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

London last weekend; Trafalgar square taken over fir the russian winter festival,Moscow today Bbritish culture workers get arrested on jumped up charges........welcome to the 1980s part II
isthatu   
16 Jan 2008
History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]

The Brits run with their tails between the legs from Dunkirk

bollox,French command collapsed,we were under french command,our flanks manned by the french and belgians disapeared and we evacuated 360.000 troops from dunkirk,troops that went on to kick rommels arse all over africa.

You really love sticking up for the LOSING side dont you. Newsflash,YOU LOST THE WAR....for the second time in 20 odd years YOU LOST,so argue your theories as much as you like,YOU LOST. You tried to subjegate a continent and ended up with half your gene pool russian. ha ha,duetshland uber alles,yes,above all at getting backsides spanked in wars of agression.
isthatu   
16 Jan 2008
History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]

PS: And just imagine our Luftwaffe which mostly nearly the whole time was busy in Russia fighting against GB not Russia....

bollox,you threw the might of the lufftwaffe against these shores a year before you turned on russia,and went home licking your wounds.....
and all that about the german navy,dont make me laugh, the only time surface vessels broke out of port they were hammered by RN and RAF,utter tosh mate.Like I said,the U boats came close to hampering supplies but only for the tiny period when you upgraded your cyphers.

It was in the best interest of the US to make sure Germany would NOT be domineering the continent....

Really,thats odd,USA had some VERY lucrative contracts with germany/nazi germany. IBMs Jew finding computor to name just one....to USA,better nazi germany it could trade with than peoples republic of europa/soviet satalite state.
isthatu   
16 Jan 2008
History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]

The USA wouldnt have even entered the war had it not been for britain staying in the fight......your argument/question is therefore meaningless

the Brit's wouldn't had stood a chance against a victorious Germany with an Europe of conquered/allied/collaborating nations.

Sorry,if this was true,why am I not speaking German then? USA,enters war on December the 11th 1941,only after silly tasch declares war.the hun had from june 6th 1940 to febuary 1942(when first US units arrived in UK ) to "kick our arses" and failed miserably. Face it, gitler never came close to subjuing the British nation and never would have.Even if some hun troops had crossed the channel "Britain"( govt,armed forces high command,royals etc) would have essentially upped sticks and moved to Canada where all our gold was.
isthatu   
16 Jan 2008
History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]

Like I said, the only thing needed to take the Brits out would be a blockade....

Which you tried ,and indead failed to do. The U boat fleet came very close ,but not close enough.

Don't believe your war movies to much...a Germany without having to concentrate on Russia and you without the help you got from the US....just be fair and you would say so yourself..no chance!

I dont argue with this point one bit. It was the world rising up to stop the nazis that cracked the nut. Still we did hold out pretty much alone(with dribs and drabs of allies) and did indeed kick rommels arse all the way back to berlin.

There is nothing shameful about it....your island IS brave but very limited if you would have to stand all on your own!

Thats the problem the hun never understood,"we" would never have to stand alone,we new we could count on the help of the Dominions and the help from our other,european allies/fellow travlers was an added bonus and one that every educated briton is eternaly greatfull for.
isthatu   
16 Jan 2008
History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]

Still a front.
Many many more of hitlers italian allies were there,and dont believe all you read about italys forces,some were awfull some elite.
Still had to defend the Atlantic coast line,another front,if you like.
isthatu   
16 Jan 2008
History / Want to know more about Poles and Polish soldiers during WWII? [18]

I'll qualify my objections to those 3 points;

"giving Poland the distinction of being the only nation to combat Germany throughout the entire war in Europe."

Only if you take WW2 as starting on sept 1st 1939. In britain and france ww2 started on the third of sept '39 and both nations had forces fighting till the end. Some could say ww2 started much earlier say in Spain in 36 where the main protaganists fought a proxy war,in which case ......ya get the picture :) or didnt start as a true World War until Japan became involved .....

"Poland was also the only nation to fight Nazi aggression on every front "
eh?,no it wasnt,both Britain and france had forces in Russia.......

True,but Poland had a much larger force on the east front than britain or france,but not ,technicaly under the same Polish government as the rest ,in the west.(so,maybe for real pedants ....nah,lets not go there :) )

And the last bit,many Poles worked at Bletchley park,it wasnt a Brits only "party" .
isthatu   
16 Jan 2008
History / Jews...and their Polish experience [520]

maybe one where he's not giving a heil hitler style salute would have better suited your argument......:)
isthatu   
16 Jan 2008
History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]

I know those stories, isthatu. I know them very well but I don’t mind that you refer to them

some of you guys really do think your the only ones with sad stories dont you. I could be here all night telling the sad stories of just my own families involvement in the last war,but like your stories they have absoloutly nothing to do with the thread .
isthatu   
16 Jan 2008
History / Jews...and their Polish experience [520]

Warsaw Pact/Bunch of Commie states collected round USSR...now your quibling. I suppose now you will tell me you guys only had missiles pointed westwards as " Purely defensive peoples weapons system"........either way Comrade lessers idea that NATO wouldnt have fought in Asia is bizzare.BTW Comrade lessor,when did I say we intended to fight russia? I said NATO was set up for the possibility it MAY have had to fight russia........

Now you made it clear you dont feel any connections with your origin (shame) ... that is all.

What are you rabbiting on about lukaSSz?your a bit disturbed arnt you,first its threats to people and plastering their name all over here now I am somehow forgeting a non existent jewish heratage. Your frikkin tapped mate,Id start back on the meds if I was you......

you are so enlighted ...

compared to you buddy I reached nirvana years ago.......