1jola
29 Mar 2009
1jola
29 Mar 2009
History / Why communism failed in Poland? [275]
I think everyone misses the "vegeterian times". (Read: empty shelves).
People like Constantinek were either the priveleged few in the communist system, or more likely a son of an apparatchik who now has to actually do something for a living.
two years of crisis and you will call for a simple and vegetarian times of peoples' republics.
I think everyone misses the "vegeterian times". (Read: empty shelves).
People like Constantinek were either the priveleged few in the communist system, or more likely a son of an apparatchik who now has to actually do something for a living.
1jola
28 Mar 2009
History / Historical culture in certain areas of Poland (about man and women) [4]
The university bit is puzzling because I would assume he stayed in the city, however, if he had stayed in the country, it would be possible. Men worked hard in the fields, so when they came in for a meal they were served without delay. They didn't hand around long and they returned to work. Division of labour.
It is also possible they kept some aristocratic habits if they were not farmers. All this seems strange to us now, but they would find it strange to see the whole family eating and watching TV at the same time as it is common in many families now.
The university bit is puzzling because I would assume he stayed in the city, however, if he had stayed in the country, it would be possible. Men worked hard in the fields, so when they came in for a meal they were served without delay. They didn't hand around long and they returned to work. Division of labour.
It is also possible they kept some aristocratic habits if they were not farmers. All this seems strange to us now, but they would find it strange to see the whole family eating and watching TV at the same time as it is common in many families now.
1jola
27 Mar 2009
News / Some Poles burning American flag [299]
Do have any idea what were the Nuremberg trials? What war crimes are you referring to?
Can't help yourself, huh? Got to throw in a Jew into the wood pile.
Morel was accused of war crimes and he later ran a Stalinist NKVD labor camp in Poland which you would call a Polish Concentration Camp, wouldn't you?
No, Morel couldn't use the Nuremberg defense, but he successfully used the "Polish antisemites want Holocaust me" defense. Israel concured.
I don't see your point here, but I think it's more of the same, Poland and Poles are bastards, that's why you live here. You should move to Albania or Rumania, which you so admire in their heroic fight against communism.
Who are you blaming? The communist government, the soldiers, the tanks, or just Poland in general?
Get a grip. Communists, Stalinists(in 1968?) what's the difference. Are you drinking again?
Ah, back to the old Nuremberg defense! It's never worked before but you keep on trying it all the same.
Do have any idea what were the Nuremberg trials? What war crimes are you referring to?
Just out of interest, would you have been happy to see Salomon Morel sucessfully use the Nuremberg defense (if he'd ever had the trial which he should have had), or is it reserved only for Catholic Poles?
Can't help yourself, huh? Got to throw in a Jew into the wood pile.
Morel was accused of war crimes and he later ran a Stalinist NKVD labor camp in Poland which you would call a Polish Concentration Camp, wouldn't you?
No, Morel couldn't use the Nuremberg defense, but he successfully used the "Polish antisemites want Holocaust me" defense. Israel concured.
or is it reserved only for Catholic Poles?
I don't see your point here, but I think it's more of the same, Poland and Poles are bastards, that's why you live here. You should move to Albania or Rumania, which you so admire in their heroic fight against communism.
I thought that the it was the 30,000 men and 750 tanks of the 2nd Polish army which invaded. Actually it was the Polish puppet regime. Sorry about that.
Who are you blaming? The communist government, the soldiers, the tanks, or just Poland in general?
One thing though, it is not only in my mind that those people were Stalinists: the source you quote from says exactly the same thing. Might that be why you didn't translate it?
Get a grip. Communists, Stalinists(in 1968?) what's the difference. Are you drinking again?
1jola
27 Mar 2009
News / Some Poles burning American flag [299]
What? I never mentioned East Germany. What you quoted ended short that the request might have been fake. Sneaky.
The communist party was in charge and had legal committments with other communist governments, including communist Poland. All these satellite countries were under domination of the USSR. They were held in submition by terror for decades. They were in slavery. Get this in your head once and for all. They were NOT sovereign, so next time don't blame Poland for Stalinist crimes as you have a habit of doing.
The communist puppet regime assisted another communist puppet regime and in your twisted mind Poland assisted Stalinists in invading a sovereign Czechoslovakia. Any more bullshit?
Yes you did give the whole quote, apart from the paragraph before the one you quoted. Which might explain why you didn't want to give a link. As would the fact that that particular paragraph states that East German troops did take part in the invasion but you say that they didn't.
What? I never mentioned East Germany. What you quoted ended short that the request might have been fake. Sneaky.
1jola:
So the Czechs did ask for help.
Harry:
Well, if you want to believe the Kremlin, five of them did. Or to be more precise, five members of the Stalinist wing of the communist party (to quote your own source) asked for help. How nice of Poland to assist the Stalinists!
So the Czechs did ask for help.
Harry:
Well, if you want to believe the Kremlin, five of them did. Or to be more precise, five members of the Stalinist wing of the communist party (to quote your own source) asked for help. How nice of Poland to assist the Stalinists!
The communist party was in charge and had legal committments with other communist governments, including communist Poland. All these satellite countries were under domination of the USSR. They were held in submition by terror for decades. They were in slavery. Get this in your head once and for all. They were NOT sovereign, so next time don't blame Poland for Stalinist crimes as you have a habit of doing.
How nice of Poland to assist the Stalinists!
The communist puppet regime assisted another communist puppet regime and in your twisted mind Poland assisted Stalinists in invading a sovereign Czechoslovakia. Any more bullshit?
1jola
27 Mar 2009
News / Some Poles burning American flag [299]
No I didn't miss anything; I geve the full quote. It is you failed to quote the rest:
So the Czechs did ask for help.
By sovereign state you mean they had independent elections and they elected a new goverment?
How unfortunate that you can't give the full quote from wikipedia. Let me provide the bit you missed.
No I didn't miss anything; I geve the full quote. It is you failed to quote the rest:
In the early 1990s, however, the Russian government gave the new Czechoslovak President, Václav Havel, a copy of a letter of invitation addressed to Soviet authorities and signed by KSČ members Biľak, Švestka, Kolder, Indra, and Kapek. It claimed that "right-wing" media were "fomenting a wave of nationalism and chauvinism, and are provoking an anti-communist and anti-Soviet psychosis." It formally asked the Soviets to "lend support and assistance with all means at your disposal" to save the Czechoslovak Socialist Republic "from the imminent danger of counterrevolution."[
So the Czechs did ask for help.
You mean they helped the repressive Soviet regime by assisting in the surpression of a sovereign state?
By sovereign state you mean they had independent elections and they elected a new goverment?
1jola
27 Mar 2009
News / Some Poles burning American flag [299]
OK, the argument you use repeatedly is of collective Polish guilt for Stalinist camps, antisemitism, invasion of Ch. It is intellectually dishonest, but trolls don't care about honesty. I can make that same argument in this case:
"Pretekstem do inwazji był niepodpisany list opublikowany w radzieckiej prasie, w którym rzekomo czechosłowaccy przywódcy zwracali się do Kremla o niezwłoczną pomoc, łącznie z użyciem sił zbrojnych. List ten początkowo uważano za fałszerstwo, na początku lat 90. władze Rosji przekazały jednak prezydentowi Václavovi Havlovi kopię listu, który, jak się okazało, został podpisany przez Vasyla Bilaka, Oldřicha Švestkę, Drahomíra Koldera, Aloisa Indrę i Antonina Kapkę, reprezentujących stalinowskie skrzydło w KPCz."-wiki
See, the Czechoslovakians asked for intervention including military. Poles just helped their friends, right. I hope you see how silly you come across.
1jola:
The reason is that Czecholstovakia asked them to.
Harry:
Which would explain why on the night of the invasion, the Czechoslovak Presidium declared that Warsaw Pact troops had crossed the border without knowledge of the ČSSR Government.
The reason is that Czecholstovakia asked them to.
Harry:
Which would explain why on the night of the invasion, the Czechoslovak Presidium declared that Warsaw Pact troops had crossed the border without knowledge of the ČSSR Government.
OK, the argument you use repeatedly is of collective Polish guilt for Stalinist camps, antisemitism, invasion of Ch. It is intellectually dishonest, but trolls don't care about honesty. I can make that same argument in this case:
"Pretekstem do inwazji był niepodpisany list opublikowany w radzieckiej prasie, w którym rzekomo czechosłowaccy przywódcy zwracali się do Kremla o niezwłoczną pomoc, łącznie z użyciem sił zbrojnych. List ten początkowo uważano za fałszerstwo, na początku lat 90. władze Rosji przekazały jednak prezydentowi Václavovi Havlovi kopię listu, który, jak się okazało, został podpisany przez Vasyla Bilaka, Oldřicha Švestkę, Drahomíra Koldera, Aloisa Indrę i Antonina Kapkę, reprezentujących stalinowskie skrzydło w KPCz."-wiki
See, the Czechoslovakians asked for intervention including military. Poles just helped their friends, right. I hope you see how silly you come across.
1jola
27 Mar 2009
News / Some Poles burning American flag [299]
I am Polish on all sides of my family. I emigrated from Poland and I never mentioned when, but I did say it was when I was a child. That is all the personal info I have given. How does that make me Jewish, braniac?
But wait, you insist that I am Jewish. You say I abandoned my country in the time of need...to search for better toilet paper. So, according to you, Jews who emigrated from Poland abandoned their country in search of toilet paper. Explain yourself.
I said if you keep using racial slurs against me I will call on you. Is this a new phrasal verb for you?
report me for the crime of pointing out that your own posts show that you are Jewish!
I am Polish on all sides of my family. I emigrated from Poland and I never mentioned when, but I did say it was when I was a child. That is all the personal info I have given. How does that make me Jewish, braniac?
But wait, you insist that I am Jewish. You say I abandoned my country in the time of need...to search for better toilet paper. So, according to you, Jews who emigrated from Poland abandoned their country in search of toilet paper. Explain yourself.
Please, please, please do call the police and report me for the crime of pointing out that your own posts show that you are Jewish!
I said if you keep using racial slurs against me I will call on you. Is this a new phrasal verb for you?
1jola
27 Mar 2009
News / Some Poles burning American flag [299]
No one has collectively condemned the German nation, nor the German soldiers. War is war, and Poles and Germans have never missed a good fight in our history. War crimes are a different thing though.
The Germans didn't get this slack after the war either...
So he is right, the defense "my gov made me do invade another country, I'm not guilty" shouldn't wash here either!
So he is right, the defense "my gov made me do invade another country, I'm not guilty" shouldn't wash here either!
No one has collectively condemned the German nation, nor the German soldiers. War is war, and Poles and Germans have never missed a good fight in our history. War crimes are a different thing though.
1jola
27 Mar 2009
News / Some Poles burning American flag [299]
You are playing a silly game. It's sophmoric. Have it your way. The reason is that Czecholstovakia asked them to. There is proof of that.
They did and they sent 600,000 men just to confirm their friendship commitments. After all, Czechoslovakia was their ally, right. They agreed to be in the "Warsaw" Pact.
At Nuremberg Germans were tried for war crimes not for being in the army.
Ah, Jews abandoning Poland in time of need for better toilet paper racial smear again. Should I list more of your lies? Now, doctor heal thyself.
If you insist on calling me racial slurs, I'll call on you myself, brave internet warrior.
perhaps you could explain why the Soviets (and Poles) needed to invade Czechoslovakia if it was not a sovereign state?
You are playing a silly game. It's sophmoric. Have it your way. The reason is that Czecholstovakia asked them to. There is proof of that.
If Czechoslovakia was such a subserviant state, why didn't the Kremlin just click its collective fingers?
They did and they sent 600,000 men just to confirm their friendship commitments. After all, Czechoslovakia was their ally, right. They agreed to be in the "Warsaw" Pact.
I note that you are still using the Nuremberg defense to defend the brave Poles who invaded Czechoslovakia. That defense didn't work for the SS camp guards and it won't work for you either.
At Nuremberg Germans were tried for war crimes not for being in the army.
face up to the truth that the Poland you so bravely abandoned in search of toilet paper
Ah, Jews abandoning Poland in time of need for better toilet paper racial smear again. Should I list more of your lies? Now, doctor heal thyself.
If you could perhaps drop the ad hom drivel for long enough,
BTW, the police still haven't turned up to arrest me. Could you be so kind as to make another call reporting me?
If you insist on calling me racial slurs, I'll call on you myself, brave internet warrior.
1jola
27 Mar 2009
News / Some Poles burning American flag [299]
Harry,
You are saying that Poland and Czechoslovakia were sovereign??!! Well, yes you are. Need nothing else to confirm you as a TROLL on this board.
You have been in this country for 12 years, so you say. How does it feel not to have one Polish friend? Don't tell me spit texts like that with Poles face`to face? I don't buy that. You sit alone, or maybe in an expat bar and spread lies about Poland on a Polish forum. Some existance. Your Polish girlfriend, either comes from a proud NKVD line, or most likely doesn't exist. Pathetic, really.
Harry,
You are saying that Poland and Czechoslovakia were sovereign??!! Well, yes you are. Need nothing else to confirm you as a TROLL on this board.
You have been in this country for 12 years, so you say. How does it feel not to have one Polish friend? Don't tell me spit texts like that with Poles face`to face? I don't buy that. You sit alone, or maybe in an expat bar and spread lies about Poland on a Polish forum. Some existance. Your Polish girlfriend, either comes from a proud NKVD line, or most likely doesn't exist. Pathetic, really.
1jola
26 Mar 2009
News / Some Poles burning American flag [299]
Oh, Gawd, not another Polish history buff.
The Pope came about 60 yrs later.
Other than WW2, Poland did nothing to free themselves from communism other than Lech Walensa.
Other than WW2, Poland did nothing to free themselves from communism other than Lech Walensa.
Oh, Gawd, not another Polish history buff.
1jola
26 Mar 2009
News / Some Poles burning American flag [299]
Harry is our village idiot. After 12 years in Poland he still doesn't understand that all military decisions came from the Kreml.
You know you're starting to become PF village idiot with your anti-Polonism, Poland had nothing to do with troops being sent, the communist goverment was not representative of Poland or Polish people, it was an enforced upon us by Russia
Harry is our village idiot. After 12 years in Poland he still doesn't understand that all military decisions came from the Kreml.
1jola
25 Mar 2009
News / Poland embraces new effort to fight anti-Semitism [138]
Solidarity, yes. It is weird because in the time of need we seem to do very well as a team; when things are good, we revert to bickering and poor organization.
Being an immigrant is tough in so many ways and it isn't for everyone. As the economy is not strong one can predict backlash against the new members of society. One one hand they are welcome, on the other they are resented. In any case they should be careful and behave well. They lack seniority.
Solidarity, yes. It is weird because in the time of need we seem to do very well as a team; when things are good, we revert to bickering and poor organization.
I keep thinking of that film "children of men" it is not a good film but basically there is a catastrophe and the government sets up "detention centres" and the first people "quarantined" were the immigrants.
Being an immigrant is tough in so many ways and it isn't for everyone. As the economy is not strong one can predict backlash against the new members of society. One one hand they are welcome, on the other they are resented. In any case they should be careful and behave well. They lack seniority.
1jola
25 Mar 2009
News / Poland embraces new effort to fight anti-Semitism [138]
There is always resentment of the 'foreign.' No matter how we try we are still tribal (well, except for our Harry the cosmopolitan) and want to blame somebody. I don't quite accept the Jewish unfairness in business practices. This argument is similar to blacks in American cities who are ticked off that Korean immigrants dominate the grocery stores in black neibourhoods. If Poles were outwitted in business, they should have organized better. The way Koreans do it in the States is they band together several families, work like hell at some menial jobs and pool the money earned so one family can open a business, then another. I'm affraid with Poles there would be no agreement which family starts first. We are not exactly consensus people.
There is always resentment of the 'foreign.' No matter how we try we are still tribal (well, except for our Harry the cosmopolitan) and want to blame somebody. I don't quite accept the Jewish unfairness in business practices. This argument is similar to blacks in American cities who are ticked off that Korean immigrants dominate the grocery stores in black neibourhoods. If Poles were outwitted in business, they should have organized better. The way Koreans do it in the States is they band together several families, work like hell at some menial jobs and pool the money earned so one family can open a business, then another. I'm affraid with Poles there would be no agreement which family starts first. We are not exactly consensus people.
1jola
25 Mar 2009
History / Jewish love towards Poles [389]
The t-shirts are a minor issue in comparison to the statements by the military rabbi encouraging killing of civilians. To some that is a great surprise; to those familiar with Judaism it is not.
The t-shirts are a minor issue in comparison to the statements by the military rabbi encouraging killing of civilians. To some that is a great surprise; to those familiar with Judaism it is not.
1jola
25 Mar 2009
News / Poland embraces new effort to fight anti-Semitism [138]
I don't know, Sean, if that is a similar comparison. Certainly the Poles would like to make the 30% more like the Brits. It is the employer that is doing the undercutting, but the Poles may take the heat. The workers are accepting the wages offered just like you or I pay the prices in stores that are listed.
I don't know, Sean, if that is a similar comparison. Certainly the Poles would like to make the 30% more like the Brits. It is the employer that is doing the undercutting, but the Poles may take the heat. The workers are accepting the wages offered just like you or I pay the prices in stores that are listed.
1jola
25 Mar 2009
News / Poland embraces new effort to fight anti-Semitism [138]
Most nations that have organizations abroad try to promote the culture of their country, turism, language, etc. Jewish organizations promote the Holocaust and constantly study the ever rising levels of anti-semitism. Morbid paranoia.
Most nations that have organizations abroad try to promote the culture of their country, turism, language, etc. Jewish organizations promote the Holocaust and constantly study the ever rising levels of anti-semitism. Morbid paranoia.
1jola
24 Mar 2009
History / Jewish love towards Poles [389]
Yours, Harry's, Sjams, and Randal's opinions don't carry much weight here, just so you know.
Yours, Harry's, Sjams, and Randal's opinions don't carry much weight here, just so you know.
1jola
24 Mar 2009
History / Jewish love towards Poles [389]
The apology is not coming forth.
Let's leave her alone. She is American and they have been conditioned to see antisemitism everywhere. Poor sheeple.
The apology is not coming forth.
Let's leave her alone. She is American and they have been conditioned to see antisemitism everywhere. Poor sheeple.
1jola
24 Mar 2009
History / Jewish love towards Poles [389]
I am willing to accept her apology.
Now you can apologize people you called anti-semites.
I am willing to accept her apology.
1jola
24 Mar 2009
History / Jewish love towards Poles [389]
HB:
I haven't seen what you describe here. I have seen a few agitators though continually twisting facts about Poland (Harry aand Sjam). You should give them hell, but you will have to do your homework.
HB:
But don't you think maybe some of these posts are doing the job for them? Who needs the WJC when some of these posts look so bad it's an embarrassment to Polish anyway?
I haven't seen what you describe here. I have seen a few agitators though continually twisting facts about Poland (Harry aand Sjam). You should give them hell, but you will have to do your homework.
1jola
24 Mar 2009
History / Jewish love towards Poles [389]
By any standard this is called blackmail. Your concern is that it looks bad to point that out.
Sockrates,
You potential antisemite, you.
Nobody is trying to blackmail anybody
If Poland does not satisfy Jewish claims it will be "publicly attacked and humiliated" in the international forum.
By any standard this is called blackmail. Your concern is that it looks bad to point that out.
Sockrates,
You potential antisemite, you.
1jola
24 Mar 2009
History / Jewish love towards Poles [389]
While it isn't a crime to be dumb, it is nearly criminal to display it publicly. You are free to post any examples of kind words Jews throw toward us and leave it us to post the hate messages they drivel.
You do agree that he is trying to blackmail Poland, don't you? Should we be quiet about it, Hateful?
Israel Singer, General Secretary of the World Jewish Congress stated that "More than three million Jews died in Poland and the Polish people are not going to be the heirs of the Polish Jews. We are never going to allow this. (...) They're gonna hear from us until Poland freezes over again. If Poland does not satisfy Jewish claims it will be "publicly attacked and humiliated" in the international forum.
1jola:
How does Singer's ridiculous threats make Poles look bad? Hello??
HB:
It looks bad posting it here on this forum then people connect it to Polish and they become bias and develop a prejudice and think we are evil collaborators HEEEEELLLLLLOOOOO??????
And those of you posting it over and over, it just looks like you are boosting or something, proud of it somehow. IT LOOKS REALLY BAD!!!!
How does Singer's ridiculous threats make Poles look bad? Hello??
HB:
It looks bad posting it here on this forum then people connect it to Polish and they become bias and develop a prejudice and think we are evil collaborators HEEEEELLLLLLOOOOO??????
And those of you posting it over and over, it just looks like you are boosting or something, proud of it somehow. IT LOOKS REALLY BAD!!!!
While it isn't a crime to be dumb, it is nearly criminal to display it publicly. You are free to post any examples of kind words Jews throw toward us and leave it us to post the hate messages they drivel.
You do agree that he is trying to blackmail Poland, don't you? Should we be quiet about it, Hateful?
1jola
24 Mar 2009
1jola
24 Mar 2009
History / Jewish love towards Poles [389]
They came up with a better idea. Give us 65,000,000 dollars and we will call it even and stop our smearing campaign. Are you part of that campaign?
WJC and other world Jewish organizations had plenty of influence then and now over allied notions' government, however, they were not interested in saving all the Jews. They were interested in saving a few young ones to start Israel. The plan worked. Allied nations were not interested in saving the Jews either and in fact didn't want to allow any large numbers of Jews into their countries. The Nazis were suseptible to bribes and deals fell through because Jewish organizations failed to supply the money. If you are interested, I can point you to the right literature on this subject.
You are calling me a Jew who abandoned his country in her hour of need. You are accusing Jews who emigrated from Poland of abandoning their country in her hour of need just so they can have comfortable toilet paper. Bravo!
Do explain how it can be rational to expect a person who has been thrown out his home, locked up in a ghetto, sent to a transit camp, then on to either a concentration camp or an extermination camp before finally surviving a death march to have kept a property deed.
They came up with a better idea. Give us 65,000,000 dollars and we will call it even and stop our smearing campaign. Are you part of that campaign?
Actually it is you and Jewish sources but nevermind that small point. Do please explain precisely how much influence the WJC had over the Nazi party.
WJC and other world Jewish organizations had plenty of influence then and now over allied notions' government, however, they were not interested in saving all the Jews. They were interested in saving a few young ones to start Israel. The plan worked. Allied nations were not interested in saving the Jews either and in fact didn't want to allow any large numbers of Jews into their countries. The Nazis were suseptible to bribes and deals fell through because Jewish organizations failed to supply the money. If you are interested, I can point you to the right literature on this subject.
No, I am accusing you of abandoning your country in her hour of need in your search for comfortable toilet paper. The truth hurts doesn't it?
You are calling me a Jew who abandoned his country in her hour of need. You are accusing Jews who emigrated from Poland of abandoning their country in her hour of need just so they can have comfortable toilet paper. Bravo!
1jola
24 Mar 2009
History / Jewish love towards Poles [389]
You seem to have comprehension problems. Read it again and have an adult explain it to you.
You haven't exposed anything. You made a statement without supporting it. I know the truth is inconvenient at this point. So, again, how many were convicted and what was the punishment. After all, there were thousands of Jewish collaborators.
Also, what did the Israel's Nazis and Nazi Collaboration (Punishment) law 5710/1950 state? The answer is not convevient either so you will not answer.
It is not me who accuses WJC of not lifting their finger to help European Jewry - it is the Jewish sources who condemn WJC and WZO. They could have saved many lives with funds, influence, blank passports. Instead they studied the problem with results we all know.
You should think what you are writing. Here you are accusing Jews who emigrated from Poland of abandoning their country. You are my hero.
1jola:
Jews with property deeds can get in line with the Poles to try to recover property confiscated by the communists.
Harry:
So you don't want any Jews who were in Poland in 1939 claiming back their property. OK. Nice of you to say so.
Jews with property deeds can get in line with the Poles to try to recover property confiscated by the communists.
Harry:
So you don't want any Jews who were in Poland in 1939 claiming back their property. OK. Nice of you to say so.
You seem to have comprehension problems. Read it again and have an adult explain it to you.
1jola:
Since you have read about the Kapo Trials, tell us how many Jewish collaborators were convicted and what was the punishment.
Harry:
You want to know? Go look it up. My point was to expose yet another of Iwo's lies.
Since you have read about the Kapo Trials, tell us how many Jewish collaborators were convicted and what was the punishment.
Harry:
You want to know? Go look it up. My point was to expose yet another of Iwo's lies.
You haven't exposed anything. You made a statement without supporting it. I know the truth is inconvenient at this point. So, again, how many were convicted and what was the punishment. After all, there were thousands of Jewish collaborators.
Also, what did the Israel's Nazis and Nazi Collaboration (Punishment) law 5710/1950 state? The answer is not convevient either so you will not answer.
You can of course prove that the World Jewish Congress did nothing to save Polish Jews. And you will no doubt go into great detail when explaining exactly what the World Jewish Congress could have done to save Polish Jews.
It is not me who accuses WJC of not lifting their finger to help European Jewry - it is the Jewish sources who condemn WJC and WZO. They could have saved many lives with funds, influence, blank passports. Instead they studied the problem with results we all know.
The only Jew posting in this thread is the one who abandoned Poland and fled to the USA with his parents at a time when Christian Poles "could only dream of escaping communism".
You should think what you are writing. Here you are accusing Jews who emigrated from Poland of abandoning their country. You are my hero.
1jola
24 Mar 2009
History / Jewish love towards Poles [389]
Jews with property deeds can get in line with the Poles to try to recover property confiscated by the communists.
This matter is decided in courts not in blackmailing shakedown speeches by World Jewish Congress, which during the Holocaust did absolutly nothing to save the Polish Jews.
Since you have read about the Kapo Trials, tell us how many Jewish collaborators were convicted and what was the punishment.
Also, what did the Israel's Nazis and Nazi Collaboration (Punishment) law 5710/1950 state?
The Polish government for example. And then perhaps sold on by the Polish government to private individuals or companies.
Jews with property deeds can get in line with the Poles to try to recover property confiscated by the communists.
property which was stolen by the PRL has still not been returned to its rightful owner. Please justify why that should be tolerated.
This matter is decided in courts not in blackmailing shakedown speeches by World Jewish Congress, which during the Holocaust did absolutly nothing to save the Polish Jews.
Read about Israel's Nazis and Nazi Collaboration (Punishment) law 5710/1950. Then read about the trials Israel held from 1951 to 1964 in which a number of former camp kapos and ghetto police were tried.
Since you have read about the Kapo Trials, tell us how many Jewish collaborators were convicted and what was the punishment.
Also, what did the Israel's Nazis and Nazi Collaboration (Punishment) law 5710/1950 state?
1jola
24 Mar 2009
1jola
24 Mar 2009
History / Jewish love towards Poles [389]
Instead of getting histerical, why don't you comment on what you think of Israel Singer's threats toward the Poles.
How does Singer's ridiculous threats make Poles look bad? Hello??
Instead of getting histerical, why don't you comment on what you think of Israel Singer's threats toward the Poles.
Don't you see how bad it makes Polish people look???????
How does Singer's ridiculous threats make Poles look bad? Hello??