1jola
15 May 2009
History / Kielce Prison History [5]
They are making a film about the old one: miasta.gazeta.pl/kielce/1,35255,3198122.html
They are making a film about the old one: miasta.gazeta.pl/kielce/1,35255,3198122.html
1jola
11 May 2009
History / Poles and Falaise pocket - WWII [90]
These kids were inexperienced but some of their mates a few years older who served in the LSSAH and were later transfered to the 12th Panzer Division Hitlerjungen were formidable foes and by then very experienced. An example comes to mind of Rudolf Roy and his gunner Fritz Eckstein when they laid it into the Brits on 9 August 1944. From his citation for the Knight's Cross:
" In an independent decision Oberscharführer Roy attacked the tanks in the flank. Of the 15 attacking enemy tanks only 2 were able to escape. Oberscharführer Roy destroyed 13 tanks on this day, within 5 days 26, and increased his total number of knocked out English and Russian tanks to 36."
Oh, s***, it's Roy and Fritz from the Kinder Division!
He was killed by a sniper later but his gunner survived the war.
They took so long mainly because of a ferocius resistance from a bunch of 17year olds from the SS Hitlerjugend....
These kids were inexperienced but some of their mates a few years older who served in the LSSAH and were later transfered to the 12th Panzer Division Hitlerjungen were formidable foes and by then very experienced. An example comes to mind of Rudolf Roy and his gunner Fritz Eckstein when they laid it into the Brits on 9 August 1944. From his citation for the Knight's Cross:
" In an independent decision Oberscharführer Roy attacked the tanks in the flank. Of the 15 attacking enemy tanks only 2 were able to escape. Oberscharführer Roy destroyed 13 tanks on this day, within 5 days 26, and increased his total number of knocked out English and Russian tanks to 36."
Oh, s***, it's Roy and Fritz from the Kinder Division!
He was killed by a sniper later but his gunner survived the war.
1jola
10 May 2009
News / Chairman of TVP flies the racist flag for Poland [51]
It might have had something to do with the city's name and could have never happened in, say, Blackpool or Brownsville.
Legre Karamoko, a 34 -year-old black Frenchman visiting Bialystok, was attacked by local hooligans,
It might have had something to do with the city's name and could have never happened in, say, Blackpool or Brownsville.
1jola
10 May 2009
1jola
9 May 2009
History / An apology to Poland from Australia [55]
Wonder how many Yiddish speakers are there in Warsaw. Any idea?
Wonder how many Yiddish speakers are there in Warsaw. Any idea?
1jola
9 May 2009
History / An apology to Poland from Australia [55]
I haven't been to Teatr Żydowski but I think that it puts on plays in Polish and not Yiddish. I love theatre and that is one thing in Warsaw that is worth going to. Try Współczesny near Plac Zbawiciela and you won't be disappointed.
I have no doubt that plays in Yiddish are performed in Israel and New York. Have you taken the opportunity to go to Israel from Poland? It is very cheap if you fly to Taba, Egypt and then cross the border to Eilat. From Eilat you have a four hour bus to Jerusalem and you can take a dip in the Dead Sea on the way. I've been twice and plan on going every winter. 1500 zł all inclusive.
I haven't been to Teatr Żydowski but I think that it puts on plays in Polish and not Yiddish. I love theatre and that is one thing in Warsaw that is worth going to. Try Współczesny near Plac Zbawiciela and you won't be disappointed.
I have no doubt that plays in Yiddish are performed in Israel and New York. Have you taken the opportunity to go to Israel from Poland? It is very cheap if you fly to Taba, Egypt and then cross the border to Eilat. From Eilat you have a four hour bus to Jerusalem and you can take a dip in the Dead Sea on the way. I've been twice and plan on going every winter. 1500 zł all inclusive.
1jola
8 May 2009
1jola
20 Apr 2009
News / Racist text book for Polish schools [130]
Shocking, some football huligans are racist.
Are you one of those marxist ANTIFA hoodlooms?
Shocking, some football huligans are racist.
Are you one of those marxist ANTIFA hoodlooms?
1jola
18 Apr 2009
History / Was there a polish Stasi? [13]
Murdering priests and students is soft for you?
toward the mid 70's early 80's I would have to say that they turned soft and of no importance
Murdering priests and students is soft for you?
1jola
18 Apr 2009
History / Was there a polish Stasi? [13]
Shocking ignorance.
We often heard about Stasi,KGB and Securitate in former eastern Block countries.Was there a polish equivalent?Or was it rather soft and of no importance?
Shocking ignorance.
1jola
18 Apr 2009
News / Racist text book for Polish schools [130]
Great, as if Harry isn't enough here, we have another clown making his debute. Welcome.
I cant believe you racist slut call another person racist....
how dare you???
how dare you???
You have found solace here on PF..and i don't blame you....80% Poles are accommodating-racists....though not all of them are racists. I am sure you were rejected from white supremacy group until you found PF. Go ahead and build your foundation here, raise a family of haters here...You will gain nothing, but death at a young age.
Great, as if Harry isn't enough here, we have another clown making his debute. Welcome.
1jola
8 Apr 2009
History / Generał Nil [39]
The only thing you served is Happy Meals in McDonalds, you stateless troll.
The only thing you served is Happy Meals in McDonalds, you stateless troll.
1jola
8 Apr 2009
History / Generał Nil [39]
No, I wasn't a British soldier, but I spent two years in East Anglia as a US soldier. Patriotism takes many forms but one must choose sides.
So you are a British soldier now? Well full respect!
No, I wasn't a British soldier, but I spent two years in East Anglia as a US soldier. Patriotism takes many forms but one must choose sides.
1jola
8 Apr 2009
History / Generał Nil [39]
Her Majesty's soil is Britain.
Her subjects are UK citizens like you.
People who defend this soil and its citizens are soldiers.
Were you or are you just a keyboard warrior? It is not necessary to ask Harry that since he doesn't claim any nationality.
You and Sjam work for the same outfit? What is it?
1jola:
On the other hand, I spend time on Her Majesty's soil ready to defend her subjects like you, have you?
Sjam:
This seems to have lost something in translation to me?
On the other hand, I spend time on Her Majesty's soil ready to defend her subjects like you, have you?
Sjam:
This seems to have lost something in translation to me?
Her Majesty's soil is Britain.
Her subjects are UK citizens like you.
People who defend this soil and its citizens are soldiers.
Were you or are you just a keyboard warrior? It is not necessary to ask Harry that since he doesn't claim any nationality.
Although we could equally easily ask why you
You and Sjam work for the same outfit? What is it?
1jola
8 Apr 2009
History / Generał Nil [39]
No argument there. They were traitors and treason is punishable.
Out of interest you should watch the program in the OP.
You forgot to add that if so many Poles hadn't collaborated so willingly with the regime
No argument there. They were traitors and treason is punishable.
Out of interest, were you 18 before or after 1989? And did you return to Poland before or after that date?
Out of interest you should watch the program in the OP.
1jola
8 Apr 2009
History / Generał Nil [39]
They are dead and your personal remarks are getting tired, but do ask those Poles in the UK if they would consider Poles who never joined the communists and emigrated from Poland somehow unpatriotic. On the other hand, I spend time on Her Majesty's soil ready to defend her subjects like you, have you?
There is something else however. From your post it is clear that you understand that the People's Poland was an ilegitimate Soviet puppet regime. Next time Harry acts up, do get all indignant and explain it to him.
Why aren't you questioning them about their lack of the patriotism that you seem to prize so highly now?
They are dead and your personal remarks are getting tired, but do ask those Poles in the UK if they would consider Poles who never joined the communists and emigrated from Poland somehow unpatriotic. On the other hand, I spend time on Her Majesty's soil ready to defend her subjects like you, have you?
There is something else however. From your post it is clear that you understand that the People's Poland was an ilegitimate Soviet puppet regime. Next time Harry acts up, do get all indignant and explain it to him.
1jola
8 Apr 2009
News / Lech Wałęsa threatens to leave Poland [30]
Here you have agent Bolek aka Lech Wałęsa in court. The President of "Lech Wałęsa Institute", whatever that is, physically assaults a cameraman out of the blue. The court and the police do not react, worse, the policewoman present refuses to identify herself and is supported in this decission by her supperiors.
The moral of this story is that you can committ a crime in court witnessed by a judge and the police with impunity in free Poland if you're a Wałęsa fan.
Here you have agent Bolek aka Lech Wałęsa in court. The President of "Lech Wałęsa Institute", whatever that is, physically assaults a cameraman out of the blue. The court and the police do not react, worse, the policewoman present refuses to identify herself and is supported in this decission by her supperiors.
The moral of this story is that you can committ a crime in court witnessed by a judge and the police with impunity in free Poland if you're a Wałęsa fan.
1jola
7 Apr 2009
History / Generał Nil [39]
In the TV program I linked to there is a scene where they ask what has the Justice Dept. been doing then. You see an elderly AK soldier(Szare Szeregi) in uniform who fought in the Warsaw Uprising in his flat full of militaria. Great stuff collected over the years. His flat was raided by CBA and his collection of firearms given to him by his veteran friends confistated although they all had the barrels drilled through and were clearly inoperative. He says he does not feel that he lives in Poland he had fought for. Sad indeed.
Sjam,
You have contact with Polish veterans in the UK, I believe. Instead of anonymously telling me that my parents weren't patriots, why don't you tell the veterans to their face who moved to the UK that they are not patriots and report to us on the outcome of that conversation. Best of luck.
In the TV program I linked to there is a scene where they ask what has the Justice Dept. been doing then. You see an elderly AK soldier(Szare Szeregi) in uniform who fought in the Warsaw Uprising in his flat full of militaria. Great stuff collected over the years. His flat was raided by CBA and his collection of firearms given to him by his veteran friends confistated although they all had the barrels drilled through and were clearly inoperative. He says he does not feel that he lives in Poland he had fought for. Sad indeed.
Sjam,
You have contact with Polish veterans in the UK, I believe. Instead of anonymously telling me that my parents weren't patriots, why don't you tell the veterans to their face who moved to the UK that they are not patriots and report to us on the outcome of that conversation. Best of luck.
1jola
7 Apr 2009
1jola
7 Apr 2009
News / Poland. Sold for nothing. [341]
I beg your pardon, it is only 13,000,000,000,000 dollars or so.
while Bush screwed the national deficit.
I beg your pardon, it is only 13,000,000,000,000 dollars or so.
1jola
7 Apr 2009
History / Generał Nil [39]
Harry,
After 14 years in Poland you do understand Polish, don't you?
Watch the program in the original post and then comment.
Like Solmon Morel?
This thread is about Nil so try not to spam it with your nonsense.
Harry,
After 14 years in Poland you do understand Polish, don't you?
Watch the program in the original post and then comment.
And to that list we can add the names of the commanders of the Polish post-WWII concentration camp commanders, etc etc.
Like Solmon Morel?
This thread is about Nil so try not to spam it with your nonsense.
1jola
7 Apr 2009
History / Generał Nil [39]
Well, the communists did a good job on the nation. They elected communist Kwaśniewski for two terms (1995-2005) and the communist SLD as majority in Parliament. You know, the real Poles are few and the ones who fought for independent Poland consider what has happened after 1989 as high treason.
They are the same people. Like I said before, there was a chance in 1993 to replace all that scum during the six-month Olszewski (PM)government. They would have been all removed, but Wałęsa, Tusk, Kwaśniewski, Pawlak, Niesiołowski, Mazowiecki basically removed the PM in a midnight vote in the Parliament. They were affraid of Lustration.
Then in 2006 there was a chance for PiS to do something but they lacked majority in the Parliament. Their reign was ineffective. Now we are back with the same crews and business as usual on the glorious way to new socialism, EU style.
The IPN can bring charges; the courts decide. You see the result. Not one conviction for communist crimes. PO and SLD would love to shut down this organization. They have a lot of members with dirty secrets in their files.
I will have to keep repeating that there was never a real break. The communists only shared the power but remained in control of all the important sectors.
No, many were dumped a few hundred meters from where I sit now in an unmarked hole - like Pilecki, Fieldorf and many others. One of those Stalinist judges signed 178 death sentences.
Maybe you can, but the concensus among scholars, historians, and legal authorities call that period a Soviet occupation with a puppet regime. BTW, the Soviet army only left Poland in 1997.
It is only an issue for patriots; the rest preffers to amuse themselves with "Dance with the Stars."
Patrotism is out; cosmopolitan multi-cultural socialism is in. Where have you been?
Hang on a minute? Do Poles not freely elect their own government these days?
Well, the communists did a good job on the nation. They elected communist Kwaśniewski for two terms (1995-2005) and the communist SLD as majority in Parliament. You know, the real Poles are few and the ones who fought for independent Poland consider what has happened after 1989 as high treason.
Don't the Polish government appoint the senior judges at the Justice Department
They are the same people. Like I said before, there was a chance in 1993 to replace all that scum during the six-month Olszewski (PM)government. They would have been all removed, but Wałęsa, Tusk, Kwaśniewski, Pawlak, Niesiołowski, Mazowiecki basically removed the PM in a midnight vote in the Parliament. They were affraid of Lustration.
Then in 2006 there was a chance for PiS to do something but they lacked majority in the Parliament. Their reign was ineffective. Now we are back with the same crews and business as usual on the glorious way to new socialism, EU style.
Don't the Polish government appoint ... the head of IPN and similar organisations
The IPN can bring charges; the courts decide. You see the result. Not one conviction for communist crimes. PO and SLD would love to shut down this organization. They have a lot of members with dirty secrets in their files.
seems Poland needs to get its political and governmental system in order first
I will have to keep repeating that there was never a real break. The communists only shared the power but remained in control of all the important sectors.
1jola:
Polish People's Republic was not Polish
Sjam:
Where did all the Poles go? Did they all go and live in USA?
Polish People's Republic was not Polish
Sjam:
Where did all the Poles go? Did they all go and live in USA?
No, many were dumped a few hundred meters from where I sit now in an unmarked hole - like Pilecki, Fieldorf and many others. One of those Stalinist judges signed 178 death sentences.
I can see the logic of the legal argument, if state torture and murder was within the laws of communist Poland.
Maybe you can, but the concensus among scholars, historians, and legal authorities call that period a Soviet occupation with a puppet regime. BTW, the Soviet army only left Poland in 1997.
But again if this was such a big issue for the majority of Poles
It is only an issue for patriots; the rest preffers to amuse themselves with "Dance with the Stars."
why don't Poles vote in a government that will turf the court officials out of office and change the laws re culpability for state crimes in communist Poland?
Patrotism is out; cosmopolitan multi-cultural socialism is in. Where have you been?
1jola
7 Apr 2009
History / Generał Nil [39]
It isn't a matter of statute of limitations. Leaving Israel aside, Nil's daughter has been trying to get these people prosecuted for 20 years. IPN has filed charges and the courts have been rejecting them ruling that the Stalinist prosecutors and judges were acting according to the then existing laws. This argument is weak because Nil, Home Army's(AK) top general, was sentenced and executed by hanging under a 1944 law against Nazi criminals??!! The decision to arrest and murder him, and hundreds of others, was made in Moscow and was illegal. It is agreed now that the PRL government can not be called Polish as the country was not soverign but under Soviet rule.
As a side note, but an important one, that is why it insults us Poles when people like Harry and you sometimes, who do not understand or refuse to understand this concept carry on about Poland did this or that when the country was invaded and a puppet government installed by force. Polish People's Republic was not Polish - the decisions were made in Moscow.
Coming back to Nil. Why in today's Poland the courts refuse to prosecute these criminal's? The court's have not been reformed. There hasn't been a clean break from the previous system. There hasn't been a non-left government in power for long enough to make changes. As you may be aware there are continuous efforts to close down IPN or drastically limit it. It is shameful. The communists have not left; they just changed their ties from red ones to blue ones. The courts are protecting their friends.
As if our opinion carries a lot of weight with the Justice Department.
Here are the names of the perps:
• Prokurator Helena Wolińska-Brus vel Fajga Mindlak-Danielak
• Prokurator Benjamin Wajsblech.
• Prokurator Witold Gatner
• Prokurator Paulina Kern
• Sędzia Maria Gurowska vel Górowska, a właściwie Maria Sand
• Sędzia Sądu Najwyższego Emil Merz,
• Sędzia Sądu Najwyższego Gustaw Auscaler
• Sędzia Sądu Najwyższego Igor Andrejew
• Wicedyrektor Departamentu III Generalnej Prokuratury Alicja Graff
• Obrońca z urzędu Jerzy Mering
Nil's daughter said that several Polish judges refused to participate and by coinsidence all of the above but one are Jewish and one Homo Soviticus.
It isn't a matter of statute of limitations. Leaving Israel aside, Nil's daughter has been trying to get these people prosecuted for 20 years. IPN has filed charges and the courts have been rejecting them ruling that the Stalinist prosecutors and judges were acting according to the then existing laws. This argument is weak because Nil, Home Army's(AK) top general, was sentenced and executed by hanging under a 1944 law against Nazi criminals??!! The decision to arrest and murder him, and hundreds of others, was made in Moscow and was illegal. It is agreed now that the PRL government can not be called Polish as the country was not soverign but under Soviet rule.
As a side note, but an important one, that is why it insults us Poles when people like Harry and you sometimes, who do not understand or refuse to understand this concept carry on about Poland did this or that when the country was invaded and a puppet government installed by force. Polish People's Republic was not Polish - the decisions were made in Moscow.
Coming back to Nil. Why in today's Poland the courts refuse to prosecute these criminal's? The court's have not been reformed. There hasn't been a clean break from the previous system. There hasn't been a non-left government in power for long enough to make changes. As you may be aware there are continuous efforts to close down IPN or drastically limit it. It is shameful. The communists have not left; they just changed their ties from red ones to blue ones. The courts are protecting their friends.
or maybe the majority of Poles simply couldn't give a damn about this issue?
As if our opinion carries a lot of weight with the Justice Department.
Here are the names of the perps:
• Prokurator Helena Wolińska-Brus vel Fajga Mindlak-Danielak
• Prokurator Benjamin Wajsblech.
• Prokurator Witold Gatner
• Prokurator Paulina Kern
• Sędzia Maria Gurowska vel Górowska, a właściwie Maria Sand
• Sędzia Sądu Najwyższego Emil Merz,
• Sędzia Sądu Najwyższego Gustaw Auscaler
• Sędzia Sądu Najwyższego Igor Andrejew
• Wicedyrektor Departamentu III Generalnej Prokuratury Alicja Graff
• Obrońca z urzędu Jerzy Mering
Nil's daughter said that several Polish judges refused to participate and by coinsidence all of the above but one are Jewish and one Homo Soviticus.
1jola
7 Apr 2009
History / Generał Nil [39]
The film about Gen. August Fieldorf, one of our greatest heros murdered by the communists, is about to be shown in Poland.
No one who was responsible for this crime has been brought to justice. Why not?
Some of the criminals are alive and well living among us in Poland and Israel. Were they not different than the Nazi henchmen? Why are we not talking about the crimes perpetrated on the Polish patriots? Where is justice?
This program was recently shown on Polish TV(at 10:50 p.m.??!!) and tried to answer this question.
If you don't understand Polish, you are at a disadvantage, but bear with us, and you may learn something.
tvp.pl/publicystyka/tematyka-spoleczna/warto-rozmawiac/wideo/potomkowie-polskich-bohaterow-01042009
Watch and please comment.
Some background: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emil_August_Fieldorf
The film about Gen. August Fieldorf, one of our greatest heros murdered by the communists, is about to be shown in Poland.
No one who was responsible for this crime has been brought to justice. Why not?
Some of the criminals are alive and well living among us in Poland and Israel. Were they not different than the Nazi henchmen? Why are we not talking about the crimes perpetrated on the Polish patriots? Where is justice?
This program was recently shown on Polish TV(at 10:50 p.m.??!!) and tried to answer this question.
If you don't understand Polish, you are at a disadvantage, but bear with us, and you may learn something.
tvp.pl/publicystyka/tematyka-spoleczna/warto-rozmawiac/wideo/potomkowie-polskich-bohaterow-01042009
Watch and please comment.
Some background: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emil_August_Fieldorf
1jola
4 Apr 2009
History / Irena Sendler, a Polish wartime hero, dies at age 98 [15]
Her heroism has been played down by the Jewish circles for dacades. I guess it doesn't fit the Polish antisemite propaganda. On the other hand, the story of the Nazi Schindler has been played up to ridiculous proportions. Go figure.
Her heroism has been played down by the Jewish circles for dacades. I guess it doesn't fit the Polish antisemite propaganda. On the other hand, the story of the Nazi Schindler has been played up to ridiculous proportions. Go figure.
1jola
3 Apr 2009
History / Jewish love towards Poles [389]
Wonder how long it will be before they ban you, and I am not a Nut nor a Zionist.
Wow. You really went digging for that old quote, you pathetic leg-humping Nutzi. Lol..
Wonder how long it will be before they ban you, and I am not a Nut nor a Zionist.
1jola
3 Apr 2009
History / Jewish love towards Poles [389]
Don't judge Randal by the posts he makes here either. He is not Polish and has no clue about Poland but insists on giving his opinion on everything Polish, like:
Randal:
Kilts in Poland??!! Probably worn by your imaginary Nazis.
Welcome Poloniaboy. It won't take you long to identify the few foreign instigators here. Their purpose is to make anti-Polish posts, often relating to some Polish-Jewish issue which they are ill prepared to discuss, and then baiting for what they will term anti-semitic responses. They are trolls, but they are our trolls, and we have to deal with them.
I hope you will not fall into the trap on either side.
Don’t judge all Polish by the stuff you see written here.
Don't judge Randal by the posts he makes here either. He is not Polish and has no clue about Poland but insists on giving his opinion on everything Polish, like:
Randal:
Does one see a lot of kilts worn in Poland?
I wish someone would explain to me this apparent fascination girls have to men in skirts. Is this interest just due to the mere novelty of it? The easy access? Some deep-seated perversion?
I myself do not own a skirt but I may have to get one if the Polish ladies like them so!
I wish someone would explain to me this apparent fascination girls have to men in skirts. Is this interest just due to the mere novelty of it? The easy access? Some deep-seated perversion?
I myself do not own a skirt but I may have to get one if the Polish ladies like them so!
Kilts in Poland??!! Probably worn by your imaginary Nazis.
Let's stop bickering over the age old battle over the cross and the star.
Welcome Poloniaboy. It won't take you long to identify the few foreign instigators here. Their purpose is to make anti-Polish posts, often relating to some Polish-Jewish issue which they are ill prepared to discuss, and then baiting for what they will term anti-semitic responses. They are trolls, but they are our trolls, and we have to deal with them.
I hope you will not fall into the trap on either side.
1jola
2 Apr 2009
News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]
When Poles want multiculturalism...Poles travel.
When Poles want multiculturalism...Poles travel.
1jola
31 Mar 2009
News / Lech Wałęsa threatens to leave Poland [30]
Who is talking of revenge? We are talking about justice.
What? There are people walking around in my neibourhood who were sentencing Polish patriots to death during the Salinist years!
This hasn't happened yet because ex-communists are firmly in charge after their "fall."
The idea of revenge against the communists
Who is talking of revenge? We are talking about justice.
was not a real possibility
What? There are people walking around in my neibourhood who were sentencing Polish patriots to death during the Salinist years!
I'm in favor of prosecuting specific people for specific acts that can be proven. I'm not so interested in vague or collective convictions.
This hasn't happened yet because ex-communists are firmly in charge after their "fall."
1jola
31 Mar 2009
News / Lech Wałęsa threatens to leave Poland [30]
Agent "Bolek" should move to Hamerica where they think he is a hero.
Boy, was it a soft landing for the communists. They are firmly in charge of the courts and industry, all the other things are fluff. The only non-left government of Olszewski was sabotaged by Wałęsa and company in 1993.
Have you seen any convictions for communist crimes since the "fall" of communism?
Agent "Bolek" should move to Hamerica where they think he is a hero.
Basically my opinion of the roundtable results is that the process wasn't perfect but, given the state of knowledge at the time, was about as good as it could be and most importantly provided the country as a whole with a relatively soft landing.
Boy, was it a soft landing for the communists. They are firmly in charge of the courts and industry, all the other things are fluff. The only non-left government of Olszewski was sabotaged by Wałęsa and company in 1993.
Have you seen any convictions for communist crimes since the "fall" of communism?