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1 May 2009
News / Abortion - how is the Polish government going to deal with this issue? [273]

Then you don't understand liberal philosophy. It's not about what should or shouldn't be but about people making choices and living with the consequences.

I understand well and agree about choices and consequences. However how would you explain liberal economists behaviour, they clearly say that socialism is wrong. Liberal clearly state that freedom of one person cannot go against freedom of other people.

Those liberals whom are in favour of abortions also share above mentioned views. Their problem is that they started this barren arguments 'when the life starts in fact'. They cannot agree among themselves, they ignore the simplest answer. Their mistake is not philosophical, it has scientific character.
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1 May 2009
News / Abortion - how is the Polish government going to deal with this issue? [273]

lesser:
You are wrong, I cannot change opinion of most of those who disagree with me. If you stick to this logic that you offer here every debate is fruitless.

I am wrong according to YOU, but many others would say that I am right. Those of us who feel so, can back this up with logical argument and reasoning.

So you reject Aristotelian dialectic and try to rationalize this claim by opinion of majority?? :))

Even here you are not consequent, because you admit that some might feel different.

Its obvious you disagree with my opinion so you feel its necessary to attack my understanding of other things such as Catholic dogma. I was raised a devout Catholic but had a change of heart.

You see you are basing your understanding of Catholic dogma on your childhood in Catholic family. This is the same as admitting that you never read anything about this issue. Non-Catholics who bothered to read something know more that about 90% of declared Catholics.

ending 2 lives rather than one, so you are impending upon the personal liberty of the woman.

I don't think that my English is so bad, apparently you have problems with understanding...
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1 May 2009
News / Abortion - how is the Polish government going to deal with this issue? [273]

Than I wonder how come you made this comment in response to the quoted text:

According to liberal philosophy this is black or white issue. If you believe in personal liberty just to this extend when you would disturb personal liberty of other people. This is exactly this exception mentioned above.
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1 May 2009
History / Territories of eastern Germany should rightfully belong to Poland? [161]

Nowadays it's really hard to determine which territory belongs to who or better said, who it used to belong to.

Of course Crow is a dreamer and even himself is aware of that.

Anyway, just another simple issue that you find hard to resolve. How about various territories belong to certain owners?
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1 May 2009
News / Abortion - how is the Polish government going to deal with this issue? [273]

I dont know what philosophy you would use to argue it.

You wished discussion on higher level, there you have it. You wrote that you read my previous post. Then you should already figure out that I'm using liberal (or libertarian) way of thinking.

I think it is black and white in religious philosophy and Catholic dogma most particularly.

I doubt that you know much about Catholic dogma. You know, some effort would be necessary to learn something about this issue. Anyway, this is not topic of this thread...

I dont like when people use the "abortion is murder" slogan

It is not slogan, this is a fact.

I was making light of her atrocious grammar and spelling.

This is weak argument.

In regard to love, Its not a banal slogan, I am just saying instead of slamming eachother we should show some love and respect rather than attacking eachother in such a nasty manner as LAgirl

Please re-read my previous post, because you doesn't seem to catch the base... I understand 'respect', however "love" is a wrong word.

You can argue all day that abortion is wrong and evil but you arent effectively changing anyone else's opinion.

You are wrong, I cannot change opinion of most of those who disagree with me. If you stick to this logic that you offer here every debate is fruitless.

z_darius

If you would bother to read even this very page 6 of this thread then you would learn that I accept this exception.
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1 May 2009
News / Abortion - how is the Polish government going to deal with this issue? [273]

When it comes to something as complicated as abortion, it is not black and white,

According to which philosophy?

When we have people of low intelligence such as LAgirl spouting her nonsense, its hard for me to want to discuss, in an intelligent manner, my views.

You have concentrate all your attention on her posting and ignored other posters. That is pretty selective and poor excuse, don't you think? All of them are fools as well?

Shame on you for backing up her blah blah blah nonsense.

Really?? I find her style of writing far too much emotional and chaotic, thus I hardly read anything. I never quoted her in this thread. You should rather question statements that I made instead making me responsible for her posting.

How is love empty? Perhaps for you but not for freebird and I :P

Love is not empty, just this banal slogan that you made here. You can love only certain people that you know. Perhaps you have the same syndrome as president Kaczynski who declare national mourning because few anonymous tourists died in bus crash accident?
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1 May 2009
UK, Ireland / POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]

isthatu2:
we had over 10 years of maggie thatcher,i'll take your gulags over that b*tch anyday

I find it immensely amusing that people who make such statements, as the one
quoted above,

You know at least once in modern western world trade unionist got what they deserve. No wonder they are still upset.

Someone from Burgundy nowdays is considered French but in the past he was Burgundian.

So which version is true? :)
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1 May 2009
News / Poland to ban Che Guevara image [55]

Communism is an ideology that seeks to make everybody equal

This is exactly the problem, people are NOT equal. Some are better than others, more talented, more handsome, wiser. It is absolutely totalitarian system already in paper.
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1 May 2009
News / Abortion - how is the Polish government going to deal with this issue? [273]

it's amazing that men have most to say here...

Yes if you have no reasonable arguments then bring 'man vs woman' scenario. After all feminists know well that men do everything to 'keep woman down'!

but it's woman's mind and body...

Here we go again... New life this is not woman body. According to this logic, mothers could kill even adult children, just the same body several years later.

so stop bulshiting, and stop giving us your pseudo moralistic crap...

Do you even know what 'morality' means?

Believe you me...if men had to carry babies...abortion would have been legal a long time ago.

Even if, their vanity would justify a crime?

Why not back up that "Abortion is Evil!!!" cry?

Although If find this one mentioned exception justified. If this is your position as well, I'm curious why you arguing just with LAgirl? There are several enemies of liberty here...

Where did I say I support abortion? I NEVER SAID THAT. I said we shouldnt be arguing it.

You say so apparently because you find such position comfortable, I don't share this feeling. It does speak something about your views as well.

all we need is love!!

Perhaps this is good slogan if you want to win democratic elections, so empty. If you don't want to talk about this issue, just avoid this thread.
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29 Apr 2009
News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]

How should a nation should go about resisting multiculturalism to retain moral standing in the eyes of other nations and even the world?

I agree with you post but I would change this sentence above.

Not a nation but individuals should resist to multicultural utopia and they should retain moral standing in their own eyes.
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29 Apr 2009
News / EU regulations cost Poland 27,8 bilions euros so far [7]

The EU is a huge bureaucracy and the main loses are not because of their salaries but because catastrophic consequences of their decisions/regulations. Polish state have this sickness even without the EU, Brussels put this problem on the higher level. This is extremely hard task to change Poland itself, how about whole Europe?
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29 Apr 2009
News / Abortion - how is the Polish government going to deal with this issue? [273]

May I suggest you watch Michael Jackson's Black and White video?

Yes Seanus, some issues are either black or white, unless you are a relativist?

absolutely right. Why not just accept other people point of view instead to fight all the time.

Normally I ignore ignorant comments after I already exposed weakness of somebody's logic. I accept that some simply cannot be helped. However this is very specific issue when some people either ruled by moral relativism or ignorance target life of innocent human being. There is no space for tolerance here, extremely anti-liberal opinions should be countered. So perhaps instead complaining you should improve your knowledge? I guess this would be the best solution.
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28 Apr 2009
History / Heretics Asylum - The First Republic of Poland [50]

77% of Polish people supports in vitro ... 17% is against ... rest doesn't have opinion.

You could provide similar numbers that most of Poles is against abortion. So how could they support in vitro? You cannot eat apple and still keep it. They are simply ignorant, because they speak about issues that they don't understand.

Other issue is that most of polls are made on demand, demand of final results...
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28 Apr 2009
News / Poland to ban Che Guevara image [55]

brilliant idea. always hated all these dumb fvckin hippie cvnts with this commie mass murderer on t shirts

This is wrong way, government should not stick its nose everywhere. Honestly, knowing ideological background of European establishment you could expect from them banning people who dislike Che. This is dangerous trend and very likely will turn ugly someday.

Beside of that such T-shirts are not that bad. When I spot such person I already know that an idiot is walking in front of me. You are immediately informed who you may deal with . If this is your employee then you already know who do you need to get rid during the first opportunity.
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28 Apr 2009
News / Lech Wałęsa threatens to leave Poland [30]

PRL in 1945-1989 was never Poland, it just took the name of it.

You confuse some things. 'Poland' is a geographical land which is/was occupied by different states like below.

Kingdom of Poland, I RP, II RP, III RP, Third Reich or PRL. (among others)

THerefor acusing Poles for Vistula action or other international dealings PRL did is nonsense to me and many Poles today.

Those who bear responsibility for Vistula action are those individuals who organized it. Nationality is not important.
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28 Apr 2009
History / Heretics Asylum - The First Republic of Poland [50]

In my opinion very soon you are going to see real believes of Polish people and I am sure you are going to be disilusioned.

Please share with us, what are the real believes of Polish people? I'm so curious! :)
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26 Apr 2009
News / Kaliningrad. Problem, Threat or Opportunity for Poland? [185]

They drink because they have a free day not because revolution. On other hand they are accused of anti-Semitism because so many blame the Jews.

One question, in your opinion people in Poland celebrate "workers day"? Of course people give a damn about workers day, they simply enjoy another free day.
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26 Apr 2009
News / Kaliningrad. Problem, Threat or Opportunity for Poland? [185]

I hope that sooner than in 100 years Polish and Russian politicians will celebrate anniversary of the end of communism ...

We can read here very negative opinions about Russians. At least in opposition to the French celebrating anniversary of the French revolution they don't celebrate anniversary of Bolshevik revolution.
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26 Apr 2009
News / Abortion - how is the Polish government going to deal with this issue? [273]

I learnt biology and I understand it and I don't agree with you. Life starts when the organism begins to function on him/herself. It is when a person takes in first breath. Until then it is a part of a woman and her body. The rest you know what I will say.

Thanks Nathan. Not much more to add to it. :-)

How could I back my words when your every next post confirm my claim? :) I must write that your denial of science is far greater than most of abortion supporters. First breath??? This is unbelievably insane arbitrary claim. It means that according to both of you, mother has supposed right to kill her child even a minute before the birth!!! I think that you need to study biology more... perhaps even open some book destined to primary schools! :)
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25 Apr 2009
News / Abortion - how is the Polish government going to deal with this issue? [273]

Lesser, that wasn't a retort to the main man, freebird. What he said was right if you pay attention to the word 'blindly'. You can't fault that!!

This was already third time that he suggest my supposed religious fanaticism discussing about abortion, of course he cannot provide any statements of mine that would confirm this claims. Perhaps you will help him to provide some quote?

OK so what is abortion to you? Clear answer.

It is murder and anybody who have mere idea about biology must agree with me. Beside of that those who speak in favour of abortion cannot agree among themselves when human life start "in fact"! (I refer to abortion laws in different states) Why?? Simply because they are all wrong.
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25 Apr 2009
News / Abortion - how is the Polish government going to deal with this issue? [273]

Following blindly religion is IGNORANT

There are some atheists in this forum that I respect. They know one thing about my posting. I never refer to religion debating about various issues. If you learned somehow about myself being Catholic, congratulations. However your claim is baseless or perhaps you will provide quote of mine which would say otherwise. If you don't, it means that you are a liar incapable to defends its own statements and trying to skip on personal argument because of that.
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25 Apr 2009
News / Abortion - how is the Polish government going to deal with this issue? [273]

Don't say "flawed" when you don't present a contra-argument to what I said. Read also my #128. My existence is Ok, but thank you for attention.

You propose murder in prevention and back this providing silly slogan of radical feminist groups. You discredit yourself enough.

Killing? My a** > You're nothing but a religious fanatic just like the freaking Muslims. You need help not him.

I think that many Muslims have more reason than you, they are not science deniers. You are typical product of public education, a complete ignorant.
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25 Apr 2009
News / Abortion - how is the Polish government going to deal with this issue? [273]

I personally consider that, for the sake of not parents but child, abortion should be allowed.

I wonder whether you will stick to your flawed logic when somebody else will want to kill YOU for your own sake. Judging from your posting on this forum, your existence must be pretty miserable, wanna be helped?