History / Katyn- forgiven and forgotten? [111]

[quote=MatyjaszI assumed the story of the 'Miracle on the Vistula' was common knowledge to Poles?[/quote]en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Warsaw_(1920)

I have never seen the term 'Miracle on the Vistula' described as a belittling of Pilsudski. My main knowledge of the term comes from my grandfather (via my dad) and he was proud of it, having fought in there.

Norman Davis book 'White Eagle - Red Star' called it such, again not in a derogatory manner.

History / Poland has paid £68 Million for helping UK in WW2 [168]


The UK loan was £300million in 1945 £'s

Love / Illegal Polish girl wants me to marry her for citizenship [124]

Why would Poles want to go to the US and work in a sweatshop when They can come to the UK, Sweden and Ireland and be legal?

Love / I got chatting to a Polish girl in a bar - opinions please.. [77]

There is a Kutas Hairdresser in Wandsworth (near the Fire station)..

Sorry..

History / Katyn- forgiven and forgotten? [111]

They were not murdered because 'they refused to cooperate'. They were murdered because the Soviet army was humiliated by the Poles when they invaded in 1918-1919.

The Poles who were deported to Siberia from the East were primarily settlers from the Polish Army who defeated the Communists. Stalin wanted revenge (although this defeat allowed him to gain ultimate asendancy in Russia as he held back from attacking Poland with his Army).

I assumed the story of the 'Miracle on the Vistula' was common knowledge to Poles?

History / Katyn- forgiven and forgotten? [111]

I think my Grandather was killed at one of the sites (he dissapeared on his horse to fight the Russians. Never heard of again). Other family members were sent to the camps (where 75% of the 1.75Million died).

At least eight people with my family surname are on the memorial. I don't know how they were related to me - I don't know any of my relations names. The reason overseas Poles are still concerned about it was because most of them were connected to and came from the eastern part of Poland.

UK, Ireland / I understand poles coming to uk [196]

I visited Krakow and the architecture is beautiful, it was not dirty and even on the drive to Zakopane Poland looked a good place to live. Now Polish food is good but nothing special, 'English' food (if such a concept exists anymore, food is now international) has similar good points and more variety. This is coming from English-Pole who was brought up on Polish food.


This is indeed true. Churchill was the only leader who tried to save Poland, the Russian and Americans sold us down the river.


Don't forget you would be speaking German if it wasn't for the Polish airmen fighting in the battle of Britain. Britain owes a massive debt to Poland. 170k died fighting in the British army in the belief they were going to be given a free Poland. Remember Arnhem? A division of Poles were flown in (even knowning that it was hopeless) and were pretty much slaughtered. The British Government knew years before that the Poles were not going to be able to return home and it allowed them to die on Britains behalf.

What sort of effect do you think it had on the Polish who were exiled in Britain? Well, they ended up committing suicide. some of them, like my father. He loved Poland and he could never set foot there again. After the War the Poles were excluded from the victory celebrations, banned for life from speaking about how they had been betrayed.

Genealogy / Anyone Else 1/2 Polish??? [58]

I'm half Polish, half English. My father said there was no point learning Polish, so I can't speak a word .

Love / I got chatting to a Polish girl in a bar - opinions please.. [77]


As a British-Pole its one of the few Polish words I know :)

There is a Kutas Hardresser in Wandsworth (near the Fire station).... Greeks apparently although I've never had the nerve to go in there.

Food / Pierogi (polish Dumpling) Lovers Here???? [76]

My favourite filling is fried mushroom and onion. The mushrooms have to be very slowly fried so the flavour is condensed and the onions crispy. Never found them in while in Poland.