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Crow  154 | 9310  
9 Feb 2008 /  #121
I respect your brother in Christ

Just, why then you tolerate collaboration of Spain via NATO with worse mujaheedines?
espana  17 | 947  
9 Feb 2008 /  #122
why then you tolerate collaboration of Spain via NATO

i dont but Javier Solana was the NATO Secretary General at this times
a bloody Socialists !!!!!!!!!!
lesser  4 | 1311  
10 Feb 2008 /  #123
If you already talking about him, do you know to what is the name of this organization that Solana was apparently linked to? From this photo:

http://www.blessedquietness.com/solanamarxist.jpg
espana  17 | 947  
29 Feb 2008 /  #124
this polish volunteers =traitors and criminals who Spain struggled to build communism there
espana  17 | 947  
29 Feb 2008 /  #126
:) what the fuc* is this ?
ETA.......this **** who kiil his own people?
the 99 % of people from el pais vasco wanted to be spanish .
i do respect the flag from el pais vasco like the others 17 ones
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
29 Feb 2008 /  #127
I just think you becomed so furious about Poland after my post that after independence of Kosovo there will be independece of Bask country and Catalonia. heheh don't wory it is my private opinion heheh not secret plan of Polish gov. or PL ppl to disintegrate Spain :P lol.

btw after you reaction and after reaction of your government I am not so sure about this 99% ;)
espana  17 | 947  
29 Feb 2008 /  #128
Lukasz

you make me laugh, thank you :)
pl already disintegrate uk ,so why not spain?
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
29 Feb 2008 /  #129
the 99 % of people from el pais vasco wanted to be spanish .i do respect the flag from el pais vasco like the others 17 ones

:)

you make me laugh, thank you :)

seconded :) honestly we have in Poland some informations about situation in Spain :-)

Ok lets leave it.
espana  17 | 947  
29 Feb 2008 /  #130
after reaction of your government

what is the reaction of your government about kosovo?
ass lickers?
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
29 Feb 2008 /  #131
Ok I have chceked half of EU states forums and on every forum there is somebody like Crow who talks about (depends form forum) Slavic Union, Serb Celts, Serb Catholics, Serb Orthodox, Serbs Slavs, White Serbs, Serbs victims, Serbs defenders of Christians (...) check if you want.

I will avoid Souther talking about peaceful Serbs lovin nature.

In our current situation (Russia, shield, EU unity) it was the best soultion.

Your motives are clear, and some (rather most) politicians are honest and say staright what is the problem with Kosovo for Spain and it is not about Serb Catholics.

it is rather about :

the 99 % of people from el pais vasco wanted to be spanish .i do respect the flag from el pais vasco like the others 17 ones

Deise 07  3 | 76  
29 Feb 2008 /  #132
Your motives are clear, and some (rather most) politicians are honest and say staright what is the problem with Kosovo for Spain and it is not about Serb Catholics.

Very true. But it s not simply Spain which may have a problem with what happened in Kosovo. This is a big deal for all countries with minority groups living within their borders. What is an even bigger issue is the fact that this action sets a precedent whereby areas with a large immigrant community could possibly break away from the country they live in.

The case of the Basques is different as they are the oldest nation in Europe and have been treated cery badly by the Spanish establishment, but areas with large immigrant communities like Bradford in England or Marseille in France could conceivably in the future become independent states on this basis.
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
29 Feb 2008 /  #133
but areas with large immigrant communities like Bradford in England or Marseille in France could conceivably in the future become independent states on this basis.

Our standing was : "If you realy want it ...". Poland with its history will think twice before will reject sb's independence.

Spanish intensions are clear. As I know others (even it can be problematic for them in future) decided to support this project because there was threat that Albanians will atack NATO forces in Kosovo (who promised them independence) and new conflict would begin.

It is very interesing situation and there will be consequences. We will see what will happen. It isn't direct threat for Poland. Maybe we will see new countries like independent Scotland or Basque country (positive efect) or problems on Ukraine (negative)
janekb  - | 57  
29 Feb 2008 /  #134
I am writing it to remember myself some family stories I had heard. There was an uncle, politically active bright man. While the rest of family was either borderline fascist (my father) or anti-communist, he was union organizer and defender in court cases. Strangely even my father admired his commitment. He used name Walter (it was not his real name) and after coming back from Spain faded away. Was killed in 1939 in the first days of the war. His wife remained single and had nothing to do with post war rulers and received no favors.
espana  17 | 947  
1 Mar 2008 /  #135
Basque country today enjoys more autonomy than any other - it has its own parliament, police force, controls education and collects its own taxes -
about eta this wankers Its popular support appears to have declined as democracy has given the Basques more rights, and popular demonstrations against the group in Basque cities frequently occur following its killings.

have been treated cery badly by the Spanish establishment

i think is eta who go to a vascos buisinessmen and extort (if you Refusal to pay they has been punished with assassinations, kidnappings for ransom or bombings of their business).

who treated badly the vascos? i think eta did , if they do this thing to his own people.
do you think this people wanted to be treated like that? i dont think soo
Deise 07  3 | 76  
3 Mar 2008 /  #136
i think is eta who go to a vascos buisinessmen and extort (if you Refusal to pay they has been punished with assassinations, kidnappings for ransom or bombings of their business).
who treated badly the vascos? i think eta did , if they do this thing to his own people.
do you think this people wanted to be treated like that? i dont think soo

Yes - ETA would appear to have very little mandate these days and people seem not to want violence such as what you have outlined above.

However, to see ETA as the starting point for the problems of PaĆ­s Vasco is short sighted and displays more your own personal political convictions rather than providing a real analysis of the reasons behind the troubles in the region.

The Basques were treated very badly under Franco and for many of them it is hard to forgive and forget what happened during that time. Its understandable. Pretending it never happened will mean that it is never dealt with properly.

If people are supposed to be part of a country they should be treated as such. Franco always treated them as outsiders and Spain suffered as a result. You should look to the actions of El Caudillo if you want to find the real causes of why so many innocent Spaniards died over the years. ETA were a murderous reaction to Franco's policy of exclusion.
espana  17 | 947  
7 Mar 2008 /  #137
The former socialist councillor from the town of Mondragon Gipuzkoa Isaiah Carrasco has died in hospital after receiving at least five bullet wounds when just get into his car to go to work, as reported by sources in the fight against terrorism. . Before an individual approached the car and, at one meter and a half away approximately shot him five shots through the windshield. According to these sources, one of the shots hit in the head by former edil, one in the neck, two in the abdomen and fifth in the arm. The director of the Interior basque government, Javier Balza, has reported that a second person waiting in a vehicle.

deise 07 shut up please
Crow  154 | 9310  
10 Mar 2008 /  #138
espana

i am very curious- What Spaniards think about Javier Solana? They consider him as normal or twisted?
Deise 07  3 | 76  
10 Mar 2008 /  #139
The former socialist councillor from the town of Mondragon Gipuzkoa Isaiah Carrasco has died in hospital after receiving at least five bullet wounds when just get into his car to go to work, as reported by sources in the fight against terrorism. . Before an individual approached the car and, at one meter and a half away approximately shot him five shots through the windshield. According to these sources, one of the shots hit in the head by former edil, one in the neck, two in the abdomen and fifth in the arm. The director of the Interior basque government, Javier Balza, has reported that a second person waiting in a vehicle.

deise 07 shut up please

That doesnt change anything I said above - of course it is a disgusting murder of an innocent person - you will note that I acknowledged above that ETA are a murderous grouping who do not receive popular support. However, if Spain is serious about wanting to bring an end to the problem then the Spanish Government must be willing to explore ways of doing so, other than defeating them militarily.

All peace processes, be it South Africa, Palestine or Ireland, begin in such a manner - its the only way that peace can be achieved. If that is not what you want then by all means continue.
isthatu  3 | 1164  
15 Mar 2008 /  #140
but areas with large immigrant communities like Bradford in England

they can fekin have it! Have you been to Bradford? Biggest khazie this side of the euphrates.

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