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Russians are Ugro-finnized Poles - no way around it !


Borrka  37 | 592  
5 Dec 2009 /  #1
At least according to Alexandr Tkachenko - Nekhryst from Donetsk (Eastern Ukraine).
Novelist and given his well founded knowledge of Kievian Rus', probably a professional historian.
fraza.ua/zametki/30.01.07/33405.html

Unfortunately only the Russian speaking forum members will be able to enjoy his article but I'll do my best to give you a short summary.

What makes the rudiment of Tkachenko's revolutionary theory ?
It's Nestor's " Tale of Bygone Years" and his short remark about Lyakhi, Viatichi and Radimichi being exaxtly the same ethnos, living somewhere in the woods like animals in dirt and sodomy.

On the contrary to the noble Kievian Rus' lol.

Both, Lyachi (proto-Poles) and proto-Muscovites tribes are full of it but the final product, todays Russians, is even worse.
Because of some Ugro finnic admixture what means blood thirstiness and alcoholism - as we all know the true Kievian Rus' lived uder "sukhoy zakon" (prohibition).

But there are more facts supporting bold argumentation of Tkachenko.
Archeological excavation on Moscow's Kremlin proved that its first fortifications were exactly of the type used in Poznan and Gniezno - the first Poland's capitals - and not like in Kiev.

Why Poles and Moskals hate each other (BTW. hardly true) ?
Because they don't know the great Tkachenko's work.

So, my fellow Poles Kostik and Sasha, there is still some hope for you.
Some light in the darkness of your Ugro finnic interior.
Seanus  15 | 19666  
5 Dec 2009 /  #2
How do you account for all the mongoloids in Russia, Borrka? There was so much interbreeding in those cold and lonely Russian towns and villages ;) ;)
Torq  
5 Dec 2009 /  #3
Good man, Alexandr!

Fair play to him for all his hard work but he forgot to add that Ukrainians are also Poles
and (as we know from numerous posts of Crow) Serbs are Poles too.

When we add to it the fact that Irish are just a lost tribe of Poles (my own theory)
and that so-called "Germans" are, in fact, nothing else than germanized Poles
(Crow's theory) then we can clearly see that half of Europe is actually Polish.

It's only a question of time when our dear Olek Tkaczenko will receive the Order
of White Eagle which he already deserves for his valuable historical research.
vetala  - | 381  
5 Dec 2009 /  #4
This is ridiculous.
jonni  16 | 2475  
5 Dec 2009 /  #5
vetala

Quite right.

And even if it were true, what ****ing difference would it make?
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11923  
5 Dec 2009 /  #6
...that all partitions of Poland by their german brethren had been only a "Heim ins Reich" action?
(my theory)
OP Borrka  37 | 592  
5 Dec 2009 /  #7
"Heim ins Reich"

Kinda "a good one" BB lol.
Nathan  18 | 1349  
5 Dec 2009 /  #8
Makes sense.
Seanus  15 | 19666  
6 Dec 2009 /  #9
Aren't we all offshoots of Africans anyway? ;) ;) LOL
cheehaw  2 | 263  
6 Dec 2009 /  #10
And even if it were true, what ****ing difference would it make?

well, an extra 6 inches of height means we look down and you look up.
Mr Grunwald  33 | 2138  
6 Dec 2009 /  #11
...that all partitions of Poland by their german brethren had been only a "Heim ins Reich" action?

Alles scheisse...
Never thought of that! OMG!
That' why nobody cared outbroad! It was an inside matter thing :O

Russians are Ugro-finnized Poles

Even if it's so today it's a huge difference in culture, yet maybe not that different when thinking that both lived under same opression. Tho Russians mostly hope to say that it was something good about soviet so it wasn't all that wasted.

Sometimes I understand their feelings, but glorifying Stalin is unaccaptable.
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
6 Dec 2009 /  #12
Proto-Poles ans proto-Russians were indeed pretty much the same people...
Ksysia  25 | 428  
6 Dec 2009 /  #13
nayyyy... we are the Sarmatha from Iran...
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
6 Dec 2009 /  #14
yes... I forgot, sorry...
Seanus  15 | 19666  
6 Dec 2009 /  #15
Poles are related to Serbians and Serbians have ancient Iranian roots. Go and check it up!
gregy741  5 | 1226  
7 Dec 2009 /  #16
there is consensus among historians that due to lack of suficient evidence everything about slavic roots is just speculation.nowdays there is very important tool for historians to use,genetic.

it looks like slavic are of iranian origin.
i read somwhere(not sure the source its credible)that russian examined dna of scytian warrior,foud him to be slavic.i dunno how they got not damaged genetic material
joepilsudski  26 | 1387  
7 Dec 2009 /  #17
It's Nestor's " Tale of Bygone Years" and his short remark about Lyakhi, Viatichi and Radimichi being exaxtly the same ethnos, living somewhere in the woods like animals in dirt and sodomy.

Oh, watch out...This sounds like 'hate speech'.
Mr Grunwald  33 | 2138  
7 Dec 2009 /  #18
Would you be surprised if it was?
joepilsudski  26 | 1387  
7 Dec 2009 /  #19
Poles are related to Serbians and Serbians have ancient Iranian roots. Go and check it up!

All the more reason Poland should support Ahmadinejad and partner for independent nuclear power!
Seanus  15 | 19666  
7 Dec 2009 /  #20
Exactly. The latest is that nuclear enrichment will only be to 20%. 90% is needed to sufficiently enrich it to weapons potential. Poland should support them ;0 ;)
OP Borrka  37 | 592  
7 Dec 2009 /  #21
here was so much interbreeding in those cold and lonely Russian towns and villages ;) ;)

Women from my family are soooo Slavic as one can only be.
Blond, all girls with Slavic high cheekbones, blue or gray but ... bit slanted eyes !
Some terrible Caucasian - Mongolian mix probably lol.
Obviously Genghis Khan gens.
Seanus  15 | 19666  
7 Dec 2009 /  #22
That mix works remarkably well for me, Borrka. I could look at such women quite comfortably. I didn't see a striking resemblance between Finns and Russians when in Helsinki but, then again, I wasn't really looking for that.

Good old Genghis! :)
Crow  154 | 9591  
9 Dec 2009 /  #23
Russians are Ugro-finnized Poles - no way around it !

not exactly. Russians are actualy Poles who migrated to the east and then had wild sex with Ugro-Fines. But, in their essence Russians are still Poles
Torq  
9 Dec 2009 /  #24
in their essence Russians are still Poles

A kind of a wild, Asiatic version of Poles, but yes - I agree ;)
Crow  154 | 9591  
9 Dec 2009 /  #25
wild, Asiatic version of Poles,

blood is a blood man, even if it is wild blood.
OP Borrka  37 | 592  
9 Dec 2009 /  #26
A kind of a wild, Asiatic version of Poles, but yes - I agree ;)

Now I understand my mission here.
My white Slavonic man's burden - to bring Kostik back to the great Polish civilization he has already forgotten !
Mr Grunwald  33 | 2138  
11 Dec 2009 /  #27
My white Slavonic man's burden - to bring Kostik back to the great Polish civilization he has already forgotten !

Goooooood luck.

As Crow knows and tells everybody about it, blood can betray blood but the soul of a true friend will never vanquish? How did the Serbs feel like when they heard Polish citizens crying "Kosovo je Serbskje!"
ConstantineK  26 | 1298  
14 Dec 2009 /  #28
My white Slavonic man's burden - to bring Kostik back to the great Polish civilization he has already forgotten !

What civilization you are talking about? Polish? Ha! First I should skrutinize the globe closely where it is located!
Filios1  8 | 1336  
14 Dec 2009 /  #29
Certainly would account for many things...

Greetings to my proto-Polish brothers in Russia!
southern  73 | 7059  
14 Dec 2009 /  #30
There is some difference between Russians and Poles but they should get along after all.Poles=westernized Slavs.

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