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Trying to identify old military medals. Are they from Poland?


jimsz 1 | 2  
7 Aug 2008 /  #1
I have an old photograph of my great great grandfather taken in the late 1800's or early 1900's. The gentleman is wearing several medals i am trying to identify.

Can anyone be of assistance? Photo's are at the below link

kidstimestudio.com/medals/
Warsaw8 4 | 126  
7 Aug 2008 /  #2
I could be wrong but the one on the far right looks like something from Prussia-Germanys military from 1800's.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,341  
7 Aug 2008 /  #3
My great great grandfather had similar medals, he lived in Prussia/lower Silesia at that time...

Uropis Orden

Here are good places to compare and find out:
diggerhistory.info/pages-medals/german_medals2.htm

Med Bars[
derrittmeister.com/medbars.htm#medbarstop

Good luck! :)
OP jimsz 1 | 2  
8 Aug 2008 /  #4
Thank you for the help! Your Great Great Grandfather's medals look very similar.

Did you find anything out about them?
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446  
29 Jan 2009 /  #5
Merged: CAN ANYONE IDENTIFY THIS POLAND WAR MEDAL?

Can anyone identify this medal and what the numerals and letters stand for? I suspect it is a commie-era distinction of soem sort.
It is a cavalier's cross with the numeral 5 on all four bars. At centre is a small uncrowned Polish eagle surrounded by the letters 1 Bt J SP.

I was wondering if it might not mean "Pierwszy Batalion Junaków Służby Polsce".

BTW, I copied it and tried to paste it into this box, but nothing happened. I could easily paste it into Microsoft Word. Is there from special PF trick for copy-pasting things?
plk123 8 | 4,149  
29 Jan 2009 /  #6
1 Bt J SP.
I was wondering if it might not mean "Pierwszy Batalion Junaków Służby Polsce".

very well could be.

got a pic? front, back, ribbon.
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446  
29 Jan 2009 /  #7
Yes, I've got a pic but don't know how to post it here. Not everyone is a hi-tech type.
Elssha - | 123  
29 Jan 2009 /  #8
upload the image to a site... photobucket.com maybe? anywhere that stores images online
then use the green orange pink shape button
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446  
30 Jan 2009 /  #9
I have found out that the reverse of the medal reads:
5 Zuchowaty Pułk Piechoty Legionów Józefa Piłsudskiego (Wilno) wz. 1929
which I have translated as:
Fifth Dare-Devil (??? - bold, dashing, plucky, daring, crack - ???) Infantry Regiment of the Józef Piłsudski Legions (Wilno) wz 1929

wz usually means w zastępstwie (by proxy, in place of), but dunno if it fits here. Maybe it's some military abbreviation. Any know?
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446  
30 Jan 2009 /  #11
Thanks. could be. Do you know of the wz being used in this way elsewhere?
Piorun - | 658  
30 Jan 2009 /  #12
Is this IT?
If so it's a military Lapel pin (badge) made between 1918-1939. This one is either a Genuine or replica based on 1929 design. So yes wz. Stands for "wzór"

For those that might have interest in Polish Military Badges, Lapel Pins. Here's a link to the images.
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446  
30 Jan 2009 /  #13
Yes, indeed, that's it. And what I took to be sp is actually jp (Józef Piłsudski).
Many dzięks!
How would you translate Zuchowaty? I know what it means but as part of the name of a military unit? Does English have any such descriptives right in the actual name?
plk123 8 | 4,149  
30 Jan 2009 /  #14
distinguished?
Piorun - | 658  
30 Jan 2009 /  #15
How would you translate Zuchowaty?

I’ll say your translation as the Fifth “Dare-Devil” is damn good, no need to improve it. So the name would be; Fifth Infantry Regiment of the Józef Piłsudski Legions - Wilno, the “Dare-Devils”.

Does English have any such descriptives right in the actual name?

Sure they do, lots did and still do. For instance;
In US 1st Armored Division 1st Brigade Special Troops Battalion, is known as the "Black Knights" or 1st Armored Division 1st Battalion, 36th Infantry Regiment is known as the "Spartans".

Similarly British, besides the common name like; the Sussex regiment of foot, - 1st Infantry Division 3rd Infantry Brigade 2nd Battalion was known as “The Sherwood Foresters”, I believe and 3rd Battalion, Royal Regiment of Scotland was known as “the Black Watch”.

Here's a bit more about 5 Pułk Piechoty Legionów im. Józefa Piłsudskiego in Polish
nasz-czas.lt/508/czas.html

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