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Russia: Poland responsible for WW II


Easy_Terran  3 | 311  
4 Jun 2009 /  #1
Russian Defence Ministry has accused Poland of being responsible for World War II in an article published on its official web site.

polskieradio.pl/thenews/news/artykul109516_russia_poland_responsible_for_ww_ii_.html

Russia: Poland responsible for war.
Germany: Poland responsible for holokaust.

Who's next in line to tell what else Poland is responsible for?
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11820  
4 Jun 2009 /  #2
Der Spiegel has it too...

spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,628637,00.html

Funny times...
OP Easy_Terran  3 | 311  
4 Jun 2009 /  #3
Funny times...

Indeed... But... not funny for the Poles.
Torq  
4 Jun 2009 /  #4
what else Poland is responsible for?

- the Big Bang
- the extinction of dinosaurs
- the fall of Roman Empire

...it's almost funny.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11820  
4 Jun 2009 /  #5
the extinction of dinosaurs

The big comet was slavic, yes??? I KNEW IT!
time means  5 | 1309  
4 Jun 2009 /  #6
I had a puncture today whilst out riding i blame Poland for this.

Last week i got pissed on zywiec and had a terrible hangover this too was the fault of Poland.

Poland you will pay, me and my rabbit are massing at your border, retribution is at hand.
PlasticPole  7 | 2641  
4 Jun 2009 /  #7
Hitler made those demands because he didn't want Poland to become a superpower and he was trying to sabotage it!
ZIMMY  6 | 1601  
4 Jun 2009 /  #8
Future Headlines:

"Poland is responsible for global warming."
"Poland is responsible for global cooling."
"Poland is responsible for bad world economy"
"Swine Flu is renamed Polish flu"
"Poland is responsible for WWI"
"Comet to hit earth, Poland at fault"
"U.S. minority crime is on the increase, Poland is responsible"
"Woman murders husband, blames Poland"
"Man impregnates 30 women, blames Poland"
"Chinese man commits suicide, leaves note blaming Poland"
"Rolling Stones concert is cancelled, Mick Jagger blames Poland"
"Bratwurst Boy gets soap in his eyes while showering, blames Poland"
.....
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11820  
4 Jun 2009 /  #9
"Bratwurst Boy gets soap in his eyes while showering, blames Poland"

I lost eyesight for a second or two and my helmet got a scratch...I want reparation, where do I have to sign?
fred_chopin  
4 Jun 2009 /  #10
But you missed the story behind the headlines....
PlasticPole  7 | 2641  
4 Jun 2009 /  #11
Polish girls are cold

Polish boys are cold, you mean.
Harry  
4 Jun 2009 /  #12
Russia: Poland responsible for war.

Given what Vladimir Rezun, a personal friend of mine, has to say about the real causes of WWII (and what he knew before defecting from the UN in Geneva to the UK), it's not surprising that the former USSR tries to deflect attention for starting the war!
SzwedwPolsce  11 | 1589  
4 Jun 2009 /  #13
You never stop being surprised by what drunks (a.k.a. Russian officials) say.
ZIMMY  6 | 1601  
5 Jun 2009 /  #14
On the other hand here are some forthcoming headlines:

"Letters prove Einstein relied on 12 year-old Polish boy for his theory of relativity"
"English woman can only orgasm when hearing Polish words"
"Germans cede eastern Germany to Poland and say "I'm sorry""
"Egypt finds old Polish artifacts that prove Poles began dynasties"
"Garden of Eden discovered in Poland"
"Adam and Eve were Polish....on their Father's side"
"Obama claims he is related to Casimir Pulaski"
"Kaczynski brothers found NOT to be related to each other"
"Worlds largest amount of oil, gold and silver found in Poland"
"Poland creates worlds first real invisible man"
"Poland annexes Macedonia, claims Macedonian last names sound too Polish"
"Russia claims Polish ancestry and renames their country "Big Poland"
"Millions of Germans add 'ski to their last names"
"Aborigines claim Polish ancestry, long lost tribe"
"Polish fingernail clippings become new fad for collectors"
PlasticPole  7 | 2641  
5 Jun 2009 /  #15
It's not fair because one country had the promise to become the most powerful in Europe and others around it were so jealous they wouldn't let it happen. It's an allegory for what happens to us great people. We get picked apart by the low lifes and underlings. Sometimes they make pacts against us too. It becomes a lynch mob mentality. It creates mediocrity and puts a halt to advancement and progress.
OP Easy_Terran  3 | 311  
5 Jun 2009 /  #16
"Millions of Germans add 'ski to their last names"

Bratwurski Boy, for your reparations you'll have to contact Polish Ministry of Forever Fvcking Guilty of Fvcking Everything

;)
freebird  3 | 532  
5 Jun 2009 /  #17
"Man impregnates 30 women, blames Poland"

I mean this sounds realistic ;-)

"Aborigines claim Polish ancestry, long lost tribe"

OK that too
Sokrates  8 | 3335  
5 Jun 2009 /  #18
I'd get pissed if a civilized country like Germany issued something like this, from Russia it just the usual bullshyte, we should just ignore them its not like anyone takes russian history version seriously given how redneck their political elites are.
freebird  3 | 532  
5 Jun 2009 /  #19
I'd get pissed if a civilized country like Germany issued something like this

read it before you get pi**ed off. Germany disagrees with Russian version.
Eurola  4 | 1898  
5 Jun 2009 /  #20
ZIMMY - I love the headlines! Can't wait to see them. :-)
Switek  - | 59  
5 Jun 2009 /  #21
There some idiots who really believe in this. One of the opinion written by 45. old Russian in other forum:

militaryphotos.net/forums/showpost.php?p=4176677&postcount=8

And what do you think?
PlasticPole  7 | 2641  
5 Jun 2009 /  #22
And what do you think?

I think it's people trying to shift the blame around because they feel guilty but it's in the past and maybe sooner or later we should let the past be and move on into the present and future? There isn't anything anyone can do about the past anyway so all this is kind of pointless,.
Switek  - | 59  
5 Jun 2009 /  #23
Well I agree with you, the problem is that history tends to repeat itself. Especially when people draw wrong conclusion based oh fake facts...
PlasticPole  7 | 2641  
5 Jun 2009 /  #24
There's always going to be people who twist history around. You have to wait until it actually starts repeating itself to worry and right now it's not doing that. Is it?

What they are doing in that article is discussing it and it doesn't sound too different from what I have read posted in threads on this forum. Russia is blaming Poland for not accepting German demands prior to the invasion but it's just BS because Germany's intent was to weaken the Polish state because it didn't want competition. It's so obvious.
jwojcie  2 | 762  
5 Jun 2009 /  #25
"Adam and Eve were Polish....on their Father's side"

That is awesome :-)
All what I would say about Russian version of modern history is:

"It is a lie! Copernicus was a women!" (around 7:02, and 7:50)

For clarification, those two poor guys is Poland in this allegory ;-)
I feel sorry for non polish speakers now... It is great movie in polish :-)

But this moment expresses my feelings and is easy to understand:

"K... mać..." (around 0:50)

Heh, I almost sad now that there is no censorship in Poland anymore. If it were I'm sure that some artists would invent proper response to this kind of "view" of history...

Hm... but maybe, just maybe this crazy Russian colonel is on the right track ;-) :
"How I broke out WWII" begining (around 8:00):

I don't know which one of this two commedies is better, but if anyone of you here try to learn polish those two movies are must see for you.

PS. Didn't Poland drop nuke on Hiroshima?
Sokrates  8 | 3335  
5 Jun 2009 /  #26
read it before you get pi**ed off. Germany disagrees with Russian version.

You missed the point, i'd get angry at Germany cause its a civilized country that knows better, Russia is still hunting sabertooth tigers with spears so there's no point in getting mad, world talks with Russia becuase its big and sits on an arsepile of resources but no one really takes it seriously on cultural or historical fields.
Polonius3  980 | 12275  
5 Jun 2009 /  #27
polskieradio.pl/thenews/news/print.aspx?id=109599
Russia removes 'anti-Polish' article
Created: Friday, June 5 2009
The Russian Defence Ministry has removed an article about Poland being responsible for WW II from its official web site.

After protests from Poland's Foreign Ministry, Russia's counterpart writes that it seeks to distance itself from the claims included in the text and assured it is not an official stance of the ministry.

Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski was contented that his ministry managed to defend Polish view of history and reveal the truth.

The article, written by Colonel Sergey Kovalov from the Institute of War History and entitled, History - against lies and falsification, wrote:

"Everyone who studies the history of WW II without prejudice knows that the war started because Poland refused to satisfy German claims.

However, not everyone knows what exactly Adolf Hitler wanted from Poland. His claims were rather moderate: to incorporate the Free City of Danzig (currently Gdansk) into the Third Reich and to let Germans build exterritorial motorway and a railway [through Poland] which would join East Prussia with the rest of German territory."
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11820  
5 Jun 2009 /  #28
I would say he would had a point if Hitler had stopped at that but hindsight shows clearly he wouldn't had stopped at that and an invasion of Poland and later of Russia was already firmly fixed, so no...it's just an academic thought game!
ZIMMY  6 | 1601  
5 Jun 2009 /  #29
he wouldn't had stopped at that and an invasion of Poland and later of Russia was already firmly fixed,

You are absolutely correct and that fact is not even debateable.

By the way, I left out one future headline in my series of titles. Here it is;

"Bratwurst Boy surprised to find out that both of his parents are 100% Polish"
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11820  
5 Jun 2009 /  #30
"Bratwurst Boy surprised to find out that both of his parents are 100% Polish"

That is NOT witty!

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