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Poland-Russia: never-ending story?


Lukasz  49 | 1746  
5 Oct 2007 /  #451
o my god, you Serbs are really crazy :)

as to Slavic union LOL no way,
Crow  154 | 9310  
5 Oct 2007 /  #452
you Serbs are really crazy :)

Yes, I know

as to Slavic union LOL no way

We need to follow our best interests. If that exclude Slavic Union, union won`t happen
ConstantineK  26 | 1298  
8 Oct 2007 /  #453
Not to mention the fact that european investors are the most significant investors in Russia and european market is the main market for russian goods.

Do you want to say that this investors just offer us their money and have nothing back in exchange for it?

Quoting: ConstantineK
No, but they dotate your economy...fortunately/unfortunately we have no such sponsorship ;-)))

We don't have significant oil and gas resources, and..? Isn't it the outcome that counts?

IMHO you want to say that extraction of this oil and gas is a trifling matter? But i assure you that it is a very hard and complicated work because we are not Arabs and all our oil&gas resources are in the northern parts of siberia in extremal climate conditions. Yes, I know that the money tap from the EU is a difficult task too, but working at the - 50C temperature on the oil extraction i think is much-much harder.
Matyjasz  2 | 1543  
8 Oct 2007 /  #454
IMHO you want to say that extraction of this oil and gas is a trifling matter?

Erm.... yes, that must have been what i was trying to say. :)

Wait a minute, no that wasn't what I was trying to say. Oh never mind. :)
AmirahJanowitz  
8 Oct 2007 /  #455
poland and russia the story will never end.
russia stop thinking you own Poland.
ConstantineK  26 | 1298  
9 Oct 2007 /  #456
Quoting: ConstantineK
IMHO you want to say that extraction of this oil and gas is a trifling matter?

Erm.... yes, that must have been what i was trying to say. :)

Wait a minute, no that wasn't what I was trying to say. Oh never mind. :)

Nevermind, anyway Russia is best of all !!!! Where is poland and WHERE IS RUSSIA!!!
Matyjasz  2 | 1543  
9 Oct 2007 /  #457
You are right; Poland is no way near Russia... errmm wait a minute, that's also not true. You are basically our bloody neighbors! I wish that it was different. Damn you Russia!!!! ;P
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
10 Oct 2007 /  #458
Nevermind, anyway Russia is best of all !!!! Where is poland and WHERE IS RUSSIA!!!

exactly,

GDP (per capita/per person)
Education
Technology
Democracy
Culture
Ecology
Human Rights
Wages
New Technologies

Where is Russia ? where is Poland ? :))))
Polson  5 | 1767  
10 Oct 2007 /  #459
P-O-L-A-N-D bEttEr ThAn Russia ;)
jareck  
10 Oct 2007 /  #460
Where is Russia ? where is Poland ? :))))

is there any point comparing,, with so much corruption in poland there is no comparison.
in poland people can have their say unline the russian journalist who died last year, what about mr litvienjenko is that the great morality available in russia. what about the brutality russian soldiers casue to people in georgia, chechnya, treatment of women in russia have you focused on that, yes you have mor money but life in poland is changing and at the moment there is love and peace. values and ethics.
Polson  5 | 1767  
10 Oct 2007 /  #461
is there any point comparing,, with so much corruption in poland there is no comparison.

You mean corruption in Russia, right ?... You're right, no comparison.
jareck  
10 Oct 2007 /  #462
sorry, to much emotion in this last statement,

it is russia where there is a large scale of corruption.
Polson  5 | 1767  
10 Oct 2007 /  #463
it is russia where there is a large scale of corruption

;) Okay i knew there was something weird in this statement ;)
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
10 Oct 2007 /  #464
yes you have mor money but life in poland is changing and at the moment there is love and peace. values and ethics.

they have more money as whole country, when we count it per person (per capita) they are poorer ...

Take China and Luxembourg, Chia has more money but as a whole coutry, when we count it per capita/per person they are poorer.

So we have better wages/salaries, we have bigger GDP per capita ... forget about them :) ... Now we should concetrate to beat Germans in this stats :)) and we are on good way

with so much corruption in poland there is no comparison.

yes but we notice this fact ans try to fight against cooruption, and I feel changes, In Russia they dont see the problem and it is their problem :))) ... so we are on good way in this case as well
Polson  5 | 1767  
10 Oct 2007 /  #465
Now we should concetrate to beat Germans in this stats :)) and we are on good way

I agree, if we beat Germany, so it'd be okay ;)

yes but we notice this fact ans try to fight against cooruption, and I feel changes, In Russia they dont see the problem and it is their problem :))) ... so we are on good way in this case as well

He was mistaken, he wanted to say Russia, not Poland ;)
ConstantineK  26 | 1298  
10 Oct 2007 /  #466
Quoting: ConstantineK
Nevermind, anyway Russia is best of all !!!! Where is poland and WHERE IS RUSSIA!!!

You are right; Poland is no way near Russia... errmm wait a minute, that's also not true. You are basically our bloody neighbors! I wish that it was different. Damn you Russia!!!! ;P

Oh i suppose that the beating of little brothes is a perfect pleasure for our russian heart
"B'yot - znachit lubit" (beating means love)

GDP (per capita/per person)
Education
Technology
Democracy
Culture
Ecology
Human Rights
Wages
New Technologies

Where is Russia ? where is Poland ? :))))

1. An account must be taken of the fact that Russians dont like to pay taxes, I pay only a minimal part of my ernings. So absolute figures of income of russian people are much higher than polish.

2. About 70% of russians enter in High Sc-s and Colleges
3. Space, armament, scinces...hemmm may be ballet too! What about this parameters?
4. We have a plural democratic system
5. Culture? You are joking?I just hardly imagine to compere russian culture with polish, Ha!!!
6. Ecology? Yoa never been in russia, try to visit, and you will see
7. What rights do you mean?

P-O-L-A-N-D bEttEr ThAn Russia ;)

Well, let it be so, but we are bigger, and this fact is indisputable

is there any point comparing,, with so much corruption in poland there is no comparison.
in poland people can have their say unline the russian journalist who died last year, what about mr litvienjenko is that the great morality available in russia. what about the brutality russian soldiers casue to people in georgia, chechnya, treatment of women in russia have you focused on that, yes you have mor money but life in poland is changing and at the moment there is love and peace. values and ethics.

Full set of prejudices and myths
Polson  5 | 1767  
10 Oct 2007 /  #467
1. People in Poland have a better way of live than in Russia, it's proved (Human Development Index)
2. Poland has one of the best school and study system in Europe (and in the world)
3. Poland is developping new technologies (as Russia does maybe)
4. Poland democracy is a real one, not as in Russia where people from the medias are killed for becoming embarrassing for the government
5. Polish culture is very wide and rich, don't think another one is "better", totally wrong
6. Poland loves nature and is fighting for the protection of our planet
7. So Poland is a better place to live than Russia ;P LoL Moscow may be good (maybe not as foreigners...), and except for big billionaires (with money coming from...? oil or mafia), there are a lot of poor Russians.

Well, let it be so, but we are bigger, and this fact is indisputable

I think that being bigger is more a bad point than a really good one... ;)
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
10 Oct 2007 /  #468
oh yes, life in russia is so comfortable

so go to youtube.com

and write it: "russian looking for husband"

or go to this web side:

loveme.com

Yes it is sick, but shows the situation in your country.

Well, let it be so, but we are bigger, and this fact is indisputable

Agree, russia is bigger and has more influence on world than Poland ... but it is better to be Polish citizen than Russian
Polson  5 | 1767  
10 Oct 2007 /  #469
Watch this :

In green, rich countries, in yellow developping countries, and red, poor countries.

See where is Russia, see WHERE IS POLAND ;D LoL


  • HDI_2006_264_x_120.jpg
Polson  5 | 1767  
10 Oct 2007 /  #470
If you want more, go onto en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Development_Index

Poland is ranked as the 37th best country to live in, while Russia the 65th, do you see now the difference ??! You're far away from us ! ;P LoL
ConstantineK  26 | 1298  
10 Oct 2007 /  #471
Oh sure, i forget the fact that Poland is one of the richest world's states. Sure, ofcorse it is more rich than saudi arabia, were poor arabs shepherd their camels on the SUV's

In green, rich countries, in yellow developping countries, and red, poor countries.

See where is Russia, see WHERE IS POLAND ;D LoL

Oh i forget another rich country - Argentina, were people are still trying to make both ends meet after crisis
And sure Mexico!!! Together with poland it is one of the richest countries!
Polson  5 | 1767  
10 Oct 2007 /  #472
It's not all about money, but about the way of life ! There are a lot of criteria considered, and the ranking is clear, we live better in Poland than in Russia...and as long as i know, Russia is not only Moscow but all the lands that go til Japan (almost), in there, there are a lot of poor people...
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
10 Oct 2007 /  #473
ConstantineK the truth is that most of countries which relifed form you, have better situation (life conditions) than Russia.
Polson  5 | 1767  
10 Oct 2007 /  #474
i forget the fact that Poland is one of the richest world's states

Being ranked 37th does not mean that Poland is "one of the richest countries in the world", dude...

ConstantineK the truth is that most of countries which relifed form you, has better situation now than Russia

That's funny ;D Not for the Russians though...but for those who suffered from the Soviet occupation, it is ;)
ConstantineK  26 | 1298  
10 Oct 2007 /  #475
It's not all about money, but about the way of life

Stop! Just a second pls! What do you under the "way of life"? Is it a possibility to eat and drink, or in common to consume a goods?
Crow  154 | 9310  
10 Oct 2007 /  #476
anyway Russia is best of all !!!! Where is poland and WHERE IS RUSSIA!!!

I don’t understand your provocative approach. It’s obvious to me that Russia needs good relations with Poland and, opposite.

There is much what need to be done that Russia become `best of all`. It’s not secret

Damn you Russia!!!!

Look, that `damn` could be reality. I mean, if Russia isn’t capable to offer democratic and prosperious respond to pressure of so called west, Russian resources would become property of Germany, France, Britain, USA, etc. It’s all about that

Somehow, I don’t think that downfall of Russia represent best solution for Poland.

It would be much batter that Poland support Russian efforts for reorganization of state and in the same time profit on that.
ConstantineK  26 | 1298  
10 Oct 2007 /  #477
Being ranked 37th does not mean that Poland is "one of the richest countries in the world", dude...

But on the map your country is marked by green color though you are rich, am I right?
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
10 Oct 2007 /  #478
In comaprison to you we are ...
ConstantineK  26 | 1298  
10 Oct 2007 /  #479
That's funny ;D Not for the Russians though...but for those who suffered from the Soviet occupation, it is ;)

Sure thy feels good, especially in Georgia with it's murdersuspected president, or in Ukraine, wit it's ill-minded government crew
Polson  5 | 1767  
10 Oct 2007 /  #480
But on the map your country is marked by green color though you are rich, am I right?

I told you it's more than wealth. And yes Poland is a rich country, not as rich as superwealth UK, France, Germany or the US, but yes Poland is a rich country.

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