Poland has paid £68 Million for helping UK in WW2

WWII was primarily fought by two countries - england and germany - history tells us which side won... for the second time...

...apparently there were a few other countries involved but history tells us very little of the role they played so we can conclude that it was largely insignificant...

You know that wasn't what I was saying!!

but we both know its right :)

USA only entered the war after they were attacked by Japan.Up to this point Britain was holding out against Germany.

wow thats amazing

Yes, I agree and I never claimed anything different. As for those polish members that post about the betrayal, it's more about expressing their bitterness rather than blaming Britain for all that happened.


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Soooo true Bubba! And some people have the nerves to call it a World War instead of British-German war! Can you believe it?!? :)

Historian Niall Ferguson tells in his document-series War Of the World that WW II actually started with Japan's attack on China in 1937. Guess it is matter of definition really.

Niall Ferguson also notes that Stalin's policies were pretty much the same racial hatred as Hitler's, it was only veiled as "class war". He even said: "if it is a Polack then it is a Kulack"

i know mate... and for the second time in a century...

oh well...

the USA, Germany, Russia, England & japan.

Thats all the worlds superpowers back then. so its fair to call it 'world war'

Ireland had a minor role. switzerland. norway. Eritria. argentina. but on the grand scheme of the war it was USA, Germany, Russia, England & japan the main players as it were

Definately I wouldn't put Norway in one category with Switz or Argentina...

doesnt matter. none of them played the same role that the USA, Germany, Russia, England & japan played.

which was my point - and you know that

It was Argentina that was a minor player back then, Germans had their "heavy water"-plants in Norway that were destroyed by Norwegian resistance thus stopping Nazi plans for nuclear bomb. Also Norwegain coast was important for Operation Seelöwe, what never happened though.

yes i know. and ireland (norther) was a refuelling base for Royal navy and a base for the RAF to watch the atlantic.

Yet you'd still say the role was minimal in comparasion to the input of the USA, Germany, Russia, UK & japan.

Alot of countries had a variety of differing roles in the WW. but the superpowers were in a totally different league.

its in response that WW was a German-UK war. You could say such if you changed the definiton of war but the fact was the war touched nearly everypart of the world in some way (small or large)

Volumewise, superpowers were the biggest players, but even smaller countries had significance. Even some individual people affected the war extraordinarily. Wilhelm Canaris, a German anti-Nazi intelligence officer, persuaded Franco not to join on Axis side, thus keeping Gibraltar open for British navy.

Yes , World war is an appropiate name. I just think that exact date when WW II started is more of a matter of definition.

we are talking only volume wise Maxxx. and the volumes are the superpowers mentioned

even the fate of one person can change the world


i agree

If you want more ensickening facts about those wars and the coming one...

iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Freedman.html - Benjamin Freedman speaks at the Willard Hotel, Washington D.C., in 1961

1 Hour 27 min speech, VERY imporatant facts there :)

in response to the 68million the polish had to pay out because of the square headed krauts i think its a bitter shame that you polish had to pay up because of inhuman ways the germans treated poland and its people in the war they started it with poland and nearly wiped them out then they tried it on us but did not get far (idiots they are)i feel because they caused all the problems in poland LET THEM PAY FOR IT AS I SAID THEY STARTED IT and my thanks to all the polish soldiers sailors and airman who fought along side of us

thanks omaha

Hmm And i thought they entered the war Because one of their passenger ships was sunk by a german Sub..

Just over 67 years ago on September 1st 1939,
Germany invaded Poland without warning.
By the evening of September 3rd, Britain and France were at war with Germany
And within a week, Australia, New Zealand, Canada and South Africa had also joined the war.
The world had been plunged into its second world war in 25 years.
Six long and bloody years of total war, fought over many thousand of square kilometres followed.
From the Hedgerows of Normandy to the streets of Stalingrad, the icy mountains of Norway to the sweltering deserts of Libya, the insect infested jungles of Burma to the coral reefed islands of the pacific. On land, sea and in the air,

Poles fought Germans,
Italians fought Americans and Japanese fought Australians
In a conflict which was finally settled with the use of nuclear weapons.
World War 2 involved every major world power in a war that left more than 60 million Dead
And most of Europe and large parts of Asia ruins.