Why official Poland attacked Serbians in 1999? Was it worth?

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Serbs established their own state in the country? are you joking with people here?

Even Polish Queen Jadwiga originates from Bosnian Serbian medieval nobility. Bosnia, after Ras was crucial Serbian land before Turkish arrival.

Before Turks, Bosnia was Serbian Christian land, not Muslim land. Much before arrival of Turks Serbians lived in Bosnia and then during Ottoman occupation some Serbs accepted Islam and they are declared to be Bosniaks today. It can`t be that Serbs who didn`t accept Islamization have to be punished and that they don`t have right to have their state while Islamized Serbs can do whatever they want. Where is justice there?

In WWI, Serbs liberated Bosnia-Herzegovina from Turks and Austro-Hungaria and then Bosnia-Herzegovina joined in Yugoslavia (wasn`t anexed by Serbia but joined!).

In WWII Bosnian Muslims allay themselves with Nazi Germans and German puppet state of Croatia, enormous bestial genocide was commited on Orthodox Serbs and Catholic Serbs suffered due to cultural violance on them.

After the WWII Serbians were ready to forgive and they gave chance to Muslims. In 1991 Bosnian Muslim leadership decided to secade from Yugoslavia (no democratic process for secesion!), Serbs responded ``allright you go but we will stay in Yugoslavia`` (by Bosnian and Yugoslav constitution Bosnian Serbs, Bosnian Muslims and Bosnian Croats were equal and constitutional nations of Bosnia-Herzegovina). Legaly and moraly, Serbs were absolutely right.

So, Bosnian Muslims wanted to create Muslim land and live in it, Serbs accepted that but defended their right to live in Christian land, on traditional Christian and Serbian ground.

But anyway, Bosnian Muslims attacked Serbs supported by Islamic world and NATO/EU, in alliance with mujaheedines and extreme Croatian ustashe. So called west decided that Bosnia-Herzegovina belong to Muslim world, Serbs din`t accept it and they resisted. Then Serbians were demonized in `western` media and attacked from multiple foes. When Serbs proved to be strong to even win no matter all ods, our civilans becomes target for NATO aviation during whole Civil War.

Even today Serbs understand that Islamized Serbs (Bosniaks) want to have their own Muslim state but also even today Serbs of Bosnia seek to achieve their Christian and national rights.

Ha ha.. their own flag? You are wrong. This IS THEIR state. This is their flag. Muslims do not hang their flag because they prefer cowardly terrorist acts instead of showing true face.


I swear on my grave, that if Albo's and Muja's began ceding rightful Serbian territory and murdering any Serb's that get in the way of their mission, I will not let my Serbian brothers down and be there beside them.

Rock, you are a sick man. You are encouraging murder of innocents, thats what you are doing. Theres not much hope for people with your mentality,and the only way these radicals will ever understand is by lethal force.

Come on ? What are you talking about ?

Yes, before Turks, Bosnia was not Muslim but it was not a Serbian land either. Serbs were only one of the nations live there. Croats and Bogomils were also major populations in Bosnia. The Bogomils were also seperating them form Serbs and most of them choose willingly islam after Turks come. Some Serbs and Croats may be too.

The Bogomils spread westwards and settled first in Serbia; but at the end of the 12th century Stefan Nemanja, king of Serbia, burned them, persecuted them and expelled them from the country. Large numbers took refuge in Bosnia, where they were known under the name of Patarenes or Patareni. There, they were also brought into connection with the indigenous Bosnian Church, which was also considered heretical by the Pope and Byzantines, but was not actually Bogomil in nature. From Bosnia, their influence extended into Italy (Piedmont). The Hungarians undertook many crusades against the heretics in Bosnia, but towards the close of the 15th century, the conquest of that country by the Turks put an end to their persecution. It is alleged that a large number of the Bosnian Paterenes, and especially the nobles, embraced Islam.

Today, none of the Bosniaks says that they were Serbs before Turks ? They say we were Bogomils.

Before 1992, the population of Bosnia Hercegovina was 4.100.000. 2.100.000 of them were Muslim Bosniak (%51) and the rest was Serbs (% 36) and Croats (%14). Now, the population is 3.800.000. The population of Bosniaks is 1.800.000 (% 47), Serbs 1.350.000 (% 35) and Croats 650.000 (% 17).

Before war, the majority of the population Bosniaks and Bosnian Croats want to seperate from Yugoslavia but Bosnian Serbs did not accept it and with the military support of Serbia, they were armed and with tanks and powerful guns attacked muslim Bosnians. Siege of Sarajevo lasted almost 3 years. 15.000 innocent muslims living in the city were killed by bombs coming from the hills surrounding the city. You can still see thousands of damaged buildings in Sarajevo. Then Serbs decided to establish their state in Bosnia and Hercegovina, started to kill muslims living in the areas which they decided to draw the border. If you look at the map you will see Srebrenica, Visegrad, Foca, Bileca where Bosniaks were the majority. They killed Bosniaks in these cities and the rest forced to move to the west of Bosnia. They managed to establish their state by this way.

Which is interesting in the rest of the Bosnia Hercegovina, although Bosniaks are the majority, Bosniaks, Serbs and Croats has their own leaders and has equal votes and equal number of soldiers ( 4.000 ).

So, there is not a muslim land or state in Bosnia Hercegovina now. They only pray for being alive.

there is life story of one of the greatest modern movie artist, according to international expert public...

Emir Kusturica



Religion and identity

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emir_Kusturica

Once a Serb, always a Serb, right? Becoming a Muslim can be a tactical thing. Many dip into it but rarely feel it like a devout follower will. Changing your spots just shows that you are moving with the times.

I know. When I asked to Bosniaks about him in Sarajevo, they cursed him.

At least he didn't deny his roots. It just seems strange to me to have such a large Muslim group in a country like Serbia.

Crow, why were the Albanians allowed to cause such problems? What business is it of theirs to meddle in Serbian affairs?

Seanus, this country is not Serbia. It is Bosnia Hercegovina :)

Sorry, I was doing my Bush impersonation ;)

i agree with you, absolutely. i can even say that Serbs don`t blame Poles for anything. Serbs are very aware that Polish leadership don`t give a sh** nor for Slaveno-Serbs, nor for Slaveno-Poles. Polish, same as current Serbian leadership simple obey to all demands that coming from `ubermenschen` masters.

But, its not that all Poles and Serbs obey to `EU Borg collective`. There are Poles and Serbs who find that being Slavic isn`t same as being sub-human. There are Poles and Serbs who believe in justice.... my next reply is dedicated to one of those free minded Poles

Materials and Documents
msz.gov.pl/files/file_library/31/9905_313.doc

ADDRESS
by Mr. Aleksander Kwaśniewski
President of the Republic of Poland
at the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute
Stockholm, 4th May, 1999


Marek Glogoczowski, Polish professor of philosophy, on the destruction of Yugoslavia and NATO bombing as the globalist Mafia vengeance



Marek Glogoczowski, Polish professor of philosophy, on the destruction of Yugoslavia and NATO bombing as the globalist Mafia vengeance



Marek Glogoczowski, Polish professor of philosophy, on the destruction of Yugoslavia and NATO bombing as the globalist Mafia vengeance



Marek Glogoczowski, Polish professor of philosophy, on the destruction of Yugoslavia and NATO bombing as the globalist Mafia vengeance



Marek Glogoczowski, Polish professor of philosophy, on the destruction of Yugoslavia and NATO bombing as the globalist Mafia vengeance

I fear that Poland was just as vulnerable to receiving one-sided accounts as the rest of the West. The Poles can be very nationalistic and wouldn't have sided with the Serbians on a large scale.

Why are Albanians such a protected group? They have a country called Albania funnily enough. I can remember Bush rejoicing with them, where he clearly showed bias. American intervention in Kosovo was a classic demonstration of a transgression of authority.

Being nationalistic and siding with the Serbs is not a contradiction in itself...

Support from every day Poles for the Serbian cause is great. Same as in Greece.
There are many Zawisza Czarny's waiting in the shadows, for the right time.

The two are not mutually exclusive, no.

If the support level was so high, this should have been reflected in a governmental rejection of the Kosovo settlement. It was sold down the river.

Many just don't care enough tho

how it this possible?

Materials and Documents
msz.gov.pl/files/file_library/31/9905_313.doc

Second half of the 15th Century

Believe me, it's very possible and even likely.

Remember.. you aren't a Pole, or even a Slav. It's harder for a foreigner to understand the underpinnings. Quite easier to base a statement on what you see on privately owned television stations in Poland, controlled and manipulated by Jews and the government, and from occasional laymen that you come across with neutral feelings for Serbia.

You need to grow up, and be around the culture, traditions to get a real feel for the mutual respect and love these countries show.

I'd just stick my neck out by saying that the level of mutual respect isn't as high as you may surmise. Still, I don't wanna go round in circles with this. The Poles would respect them for going through a hard struggle in the same way as they respect Scots for our toil and graft to see us through trying times.

hey Seanus you Scot, regards from Sindidun from us who still sit in office

here is how Scordisci make fun of mute languages.... here is something for you to relax a little :)

Orthodox Celts - Star Of The County Down



Orthodox Celts - Green Roses (bdw, favourite song of Serbian general Ratko Mladic) ;)



Irish Stew of Sindidun - Puzzle of Life



Irish Stew of Sindidun- Weila, Weila



song about Scordisci on original native Celtic language on true Serbian, with addition of original ethnic Serbian sounds...

Orthodox Celts / Madam Piano - Galija (Boii brothers from Czech Rep. like this very much, song could be heard on last pro-Serbian protest in Prague)

Sindidun, what on earth is this?

I appreciate the sentiment Crow