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Poland, cradle of true West


Crow 146 | 9,106  
27 Aug 2008 /  #1
Poland, cradle of true West

Poland, being last cultural core of once united Slavic civilization after downfall of Great Moravia represent cradle of Western world.

From the time when pioneers of Danubian cultural area – from Balkan to Baltic spread all over Europe and even Eurasia, to the time when old Polish warlords controlled amber road and to the period known as `sarmatism`, Polish Slavs managed to preserve legacy of old and authentic culture of European natives, or to say- authentic Western culture. From that Western culture derived civilized world based on democratic principles.

Many people, educated by Germanic standards, would tell you that West was born on Balkan in a Greek world. Yes on Balkan but, not in Greek world. Pressure of Greek world, Helenisation, only managed to push old core of Western world deeper in European inland, from Balkan to Baltic. Even Greek language could confirm us that modern day understandings of democracy `originates` in ancient Slavic lexical terminology and thinking.

Then, many would tell you that civilization was born in Rome. That`s also not truth. Rome only managed to steal skills and knowledge of European natives, to continue what Greeks and Carthaginians began- to give mortal wound to last center of native European resistance- Slavic world.

Greek hoplites, Chartagianian elephants and Roman legions, being bearers of foreign non-European cultures managed to penetrate seed of division among enslaved European natives. They heavily influenced languages of many native European tribes so that many of today`s European Whites aren`t even aware that they speaks languages which aren`t European in origin. That didn`t pass in Poland and in the rest of today`s Slavic world.

Invaders later even managed to split Christianity among themselves so that, in new political environment, could continue to rule on the base of old slogan `divide and rule`.

What I want to tell you is, when you seek to found true values of Western world, don`t look on western parts of Europe. `Grail` isn`t there.

Go West, look at Slavic Poland
ConstantineK 26 | 1,259  
27 Aug 2008 /  #2
Go West, look at Slavic Poland

Cough..., Well, may I ask you? Carthaginian elephants were Polish too?
Sasha 2 | 1,083  
27 Aug 2008 /  #3
Why not Czech Republic? Just asking... hm... and probably the last question... what do you smoke?
Babinich 1 | 455  
27 Aug 2008 /  #4
What is known is that by the thirteenth century Małopolska & Wielkopolska lie right in the middle of the trade route between the Rhineland, Germany, Bohemia, Kiev, Byzantium, and the Orient.

The Polanie were linked to their neighbors was language; the słowo language. This included the Słowianie, Sclavinii, and the and Slavs.
OP Crow 146 | 9,106  
27 Aug 2008 /  #5
ConstantineK

Sasha

What`s wrong with fact that Poland represent true cradle of Western world? (of course, current politics excluded here).

You as a Russians should be proud because archeological and genetic foundings suggest that Russian Slavs came from Polish territory, that Russia was populated from Poland.

:)
Borrka 37 | 594  
27 Aug 2008 /  #6
Russian Slavs came from Polish territory

We always tried to get rid of them.
McCoy 27 | 1,269  
27 Aug 2008 /  #7
Crow:
Russian Slavs came from Polish territory

Ages ago we send our reterds east.
ConstantineK 26 | 1,259  
27 Aug 2008 /  #8
We always tried to get rid of them.

Nothing will come
OP Crow 146 | 9,106  
27 Aug 2008 /  #9
We always tried to get rid of them.

Ages ago we send our reterds east.

eh, don`t be so cruel guys

but imagine all that power and all those efforts to be strongest and best, especialy bater from Poles and on the end history would remember that Polish seed stays behind all that

God has interesting sense of humour :)

Nothing will come

you possible don`t believe me?

links with genetic results would be provided, when it`s suitable to me ;) :)

The Slavs in Russia

dienekes.blogspot.com/2006/05/slavs-in-russia.html

Comparison of Y-chromosomes of Russian populations provides different results.......the overwhelming majority of Russians are relatives to the Poles, Ukrainians and Byelorussians.

Too bad that from the article we can`t see `exact` dating when Slavic genetic `material` began to flow from central Europe in direction of East.

Then, in general modern day genetic analyzes confirming Slavic autohtonicity and Slavs as native/domicile population on all territories in Europe where they lived/live. This article failed to mention earlier Slavic waves of migration (moves of population) and we simply can`t be sure if genetic results suggests (in particular cases) that new coming waves of Slavs (after 9th century) mixed with previously moved Slavic population or with some other ethos which in the meanwhile arrived in zone of Slavic expansion (in Russia).
z_darius 14 | 3,968  
27 Aug 2008 /  #10
You as a Russians should be proud because archeological and genetic foundings suggest that Russian Slavs came from Polish territory

Recent findings show that we all come from Africa, brotha!
OP Crow 146 | 9,106  
27 Aug 2008 /  #11
European Journal of Human Genetics (2003)

Apolipoprotein B 3'-VNTR polymorphism in Eastern European populations

Dmitry A Verbenko1, T V Pogoda1, V A Spitsyn2, A I Mikulich3, L V Bets4, N A Bebyakova5, V P Ivanov6, N N Abolmasov7, E A Pocheshkhova8, E V Balanovskaya2, L A Tarskaya1, M V Sorensen9 and S A Limborska1

Received 10 September 2002; Revised 4 February 2003; Accepted 11 February 2003
nature.com/ejhg/journal/v11/n6/full/5200986a.html

interesting quotation from article...

According to archaeological data summarized by Sedov,34 Slavs as a separate group were being formed about the middle of the first millennium BC on the basis of Lusatian (Lausitz) culture, which belonged to the Central European community of Urnfield cultures, in the region of the Middle and Upper Vistula and the right bank of the Oder. Very similar results were obtained by Alexeeva and Alexeev35 based on craniological and physician anthropological research.

here, we can read that genetics confirmed that East Slavonic (Russian/Byelorussian) genetics differ from genetics of Mongoloid population. In other words Russians/Byelorussians managed to preserved their Slavic genetics and are close related to Poles...

Recent investigations of short tandem repeat loci variability on the Y chromosome have shown that Eastern Slavs are homogeneous and most closely related to Poles, Hungarians and Germans whereas they are less closely related to some other Europeans.
Borrka 37 | 594  
27 Aug 2008 /  #12
In other words Russians managed to preserved their Slavic genetics and are close related to Poles...

Klling me on purpose, Crow ?!
Your Slavonic brother !?
OP Crow 146 | 9,106  
28 Aug 2008 /  #13
Recent findings show that we all come from Africa, brotha!

hm, i understand dirrection of your thoughts

are you possible a Gipsye? Protestant Gipsye? Orthodox or Catholic one? Jew Gipsye?

i mean, its their way of thinking.

Klling me on purpose, Crow ?!
Your Slavonic brother !?

you don`t follow global mega trends?

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