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osiol  55 | 3921  
2 Sep 2007 /  #91
allowing these posts

Maybe this is the solution:

Michal

Coventry.
Daisy  3 | 1211  
2 Sep 2007 /  #92
Coventry.

that one has been tried
isthatu  3 | 1164  
2 Sep 2007 /  #93
hey,Coventrys having a hard enough time of it these days as it is............that close to brumm aswell..................
But,he has a valid point,no european country has experianced "communism" what europe has had forced on it has been ,Bolshivism followed by Stalinism all far from the origional ideas of communism,that of fairness and solidarity for the working man and woman.

Faced with a situation in the 1930s when faschism was on the rise "communism" saw an upsurge in popularity as main stream politics didnt want to face upto the nazis and fashists. A lot of nieve but generally well intentioned people were drawn to what was seen as the only party in town to take on the dehuminising and rascist far right.

So silly little comments like "communism stinks" should really belong with the inbred macarthyists and belongs in the witch hunting 1950s USA.
Change the question to Stalinism and you will have no arguments from me, as far as im concerned there was only ever one point to stalinism and that was to keep uncle joe in clover at the expense of countless millions of lives lost or ruined.

k
Michal  - | 1865  
2 Sep 2007 /  #94
) But hey, in the name of polish people I forgive him. :)

That is very kind of you indeed. I am sure that will really help me and make me feel a lot better.

y...........it's ingrained in me....

Why, you are English are you not? Why are things ingrained in to you? I find that a strange stance. You live in England and you must live by the rules and social behaviour that is expected of you in this country.
Lady in red  
2 Sep 2007 /  #95
You live in England and you must live by the rules and social behaviour that is expected of you in this country.

Why is that ? Because you say so ? Hey, guess what Michal, the UK is not communist ruled , it's a free country we can do what we want too.........ner, ner, ner..........hahaha !!

Cor you are a weird TROLL !!!!
Michal  - | 1865  
2 Sep 2007 /  #96
Cor you are a weird TROLL !!!!

So are you! You try to make yourself polish with all this talk of 'ingrained' and you do not know the first thing about communism or Eastern Europe. If you were shown a map of Europe with the country's names blacked out, could you point to more than two countries in the former Eastern Europe and even give them their correct names? You are the 'troll', whatever that is supposed to mean.
Lady in red  
2 Sep 2007 /  #97
You are the 'troll',

Oh no I'm not because most people here today, said 'You are the Troll'

I know what it means but if you don't then you are even more stupid if you say other people are and do not know what it means.

You are such a tw*t !!

give them their correct names

Huh !!! Did I just walk into a classroom run by the Communists or what !!! ROFl.
isthatu  3 | 1164  
2 Sep 2007 /  #98
your as bad as each other,its like being in a class with two 11 yr olds that fancy each other ,are you sure you two arnt married?
Lady in red  
2 Sep 2007 /  #99
I have said several times on this forum b4. If he keeps on ridiculing polish people then I shall respond in kind. I noticed you yourself have now 'joined the ranks' so I would ask you to refrain from posting such stupid comments directed at me.
isthatu  3 | 1164  
3 Sep 2007 /  #100
joined the ranks,what on earth are you talking about?
Really,not sure what your little comment was meant to mean. A joking line brings a sour faced reply from you. I suppose you think that pointing out the difference between "communism" and "stalinism" is somehow anti Polish..........jeez,you sure do jump to some bizzare conclusions about people you know nothing about..............

actually,sorry,I think I get you now,joined the ranks in asking michal not to post snipey little anti polish comments at any conceivable chance......doh. shame irony and sardonic humor do not come across very well on forums,especially without the "right emoticon to express just how i feel...".
Matyjasz  2 | 1543  
3 Sep 2007 /  #101
But,he has a valid point,no european country has experianced "communism" what europe has had forced on it has been ,Bolshivism followed by Stalinism all far from the origional ideas of communism,that of fairness and solidarity for the working man and woman.

Communism is just a utopia that although imposed several times in few parts of the world never worked out and caused more harm than good. Hell, Carl Marx even didn't liked the prols... It was just a big swindle and a lot of naive people fell for it. Communism stinks!
isthatu  3 | 1164  
3 Sep 2007 /  #102
Now that I can agree with 100% , My post was recaling why communism "seemed" attractive in the 1930s,not a defence of a political dogma(they are a waste of time as the real world doesnt fit into neat political ideals). Giving a reasoned argument as you did followed by communism stinks makes sense. Just piping up with "communisim stinks" on its own in a seeming atempt to fit in with some majority opinion is,and i stand by what i said,a hark back to America in the 1950s where everyone one who didnt toe the percieved line was branded a "commie"............
Krzysztof  2 | 971  
3 Sep 2007 /  #103
I just wanted to add that there's also a huge amount of ignorant people in Poland blaming every misfortune on the post-communist period and praising their Gierek, the truth as usually lies somewhere in between, but the historic fact that communism (both Russian and Polish) had made a mess of Poland, is so obvious, it doesn't even need to discussed
Lady in red  
3 Sep 2007 /  #104
Just piping up with "communisim stinks" on its own in a seeming atempt to fit in with some majority opinion

It's my view and one I am entitled too whether or not you agree with it. It is not an 'attempt' to do anything else !!!

but the historic fact that communism (both Russian and Polish) had made a mess of Poland, is so obvious, it doesn't even need to discussed

It would seem Krzysztof that some do need to discuss it :(

So silly little comments like "communism stinks"

Well, I don't think my comment was 'silly' nor do I go about making comments about some of your posts which I may disagree with. You aren't polish are you ?

Communist stinks and it stank too much in Poland for far too long !!.......

:(
Eurola  4 | 1898  
3 Sep 2007 /  #105
When I drive through Poland and see all the faithful walking to church

I see... you'd rather see them going to a temple?
Besides, you just used a present tense. You said, you never go to Poland. Get your stories straight, you... you know what.
Michal  - | 1865  
4 Sep 2007 /  #106
esides, you just used a present tense. You said, you never go to Poland. Get your stories straight, you... you know what.

I never go to Poland as my wife will not allow it. Apparantly after about three days I just start to complain so now she always goes without me. I do not really mind as it givers me the chance to go further afield and see other better things and there are, believe me, better things in life than Poland.
isthatu  3 | 1164  
4 Sep 2007 /  #107
Quoting: isthatu
So silly little comments like "communism stinks"

Well, I don't think my comment was 'silly' nor do I go about making comments about some of your posts which I may disagree with. You aren't polish are you ?

Communist stinks and it stank too much in Poland for far too long !!.......

:(

i stand by all i said,you are just a bandwagon jumper who wouldnt know where to start in presenting a rounded debate on any subject deeper than how much lady in red butt kisses any percieved majority opinion.....,end of...........
Michal  - | 1865  
4 Sep 2007 /  #108
aren't polish are you ?

I think her parents are or were from what I remember reading but she does seem to have a 'thing' about it all the same.
isthatu  3 | 1164  
4 Sep 2007 /  #109
no,she asked me if I was,and as Ive said openly ,no,Im not,but not sure what that has to do with the price of fish.......she cant be though michal surely,most Poles I know have a sense of humor........

Its funny though,her seeming "ingrained" hate of "communism" doesnt sit well with the fact that as someone who appears to want to stiffle debate and go along with the "majority" veiw,she would have made a cracking little Young Pioneer........
Lady in red  
4 Sep 2007 /  #110
someone who appears to want to stiffle debate

such a load of rubbish you spout........:(

her seeming "ingrained" hate of "communism"

and of course you are an authority on whether or not someone has an 'ingrained' hate of communism if they make certain statements......

you just do not like strong minded women speaking, that's what your issue is.

:(
Michal  - | 1865  
4 Sep 2007 /  #111
I sometimes wonder what she actually finds here of interest on this forum as there seems to be no real mention of politics and certainly nothing to do with Poland or the language. She does not seem to be very well educated at all. Maybe it is just the companionship she can make with other similar girls I suppose that we all need a 'moral crutch' in life. Either you are married with a family or if you are a female you buy a horse. I think it is a control element. Women like to be in charge, maybe that is why people like animals and have a dog. You throw a stick and the dog fetches it its a strange sort of ownership. Otherwise the middle class like to attend church, it is the coming together of similar schooled people. People can often find their 'soul mate through church services.
Lady in red  
4 Sep 2007 /  #112
you are just a bandwagon jumper

whatever that means...........at least i have some friends on here. Not like you who has to keep taking quotes from my previous posts in order to try and attract some information.

Michal and you are pretty sad characters in my book. I feel sorry for the pair of you.

:(

She does not seem to be very well educated at all.

You're such a sad person. Very sad.

Remember, what goes round comes around.........Every front has a bigger back.

Your time will come........so enjoy while it lasts :(

never go to Poland as my wife will not allow it.

........another hen pecked miserable man who does not like strong minded women.....has to come onto a forum to try to boost his failing ego......

sad stuff innit.
Hueg  - | 319  
4 Sep 2007 /  #113
find their 'soul mate

You just need a Harmonica mate. :)
Oscypek  - | 107  
4 Sep 2007 /  #114
I never go to Poland as my wife will not allow it.

Your wife will not "allow" you to travel there with her...?
isthatu  3 | 1164  
5 Sep 2007 /  #115
thanks admin ;)

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