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eric_the_nave  - | 30  
9 Nov 2007 /  #121
I have nothing against the Jews, but neither did Jesus Christ, yet still they crucified Him.

Obviously Jesus Christ had nothing against the Jews. He was Jewish himself........
opts  10 | 260  
9 Nov 2007 /  #122
The above negative posts about Jews are reprehensible and to not represent views all of Poles. People who made those statements are probably cognitively disabled.
osiol  55 | 3921  
9 Nov 2007 /  #123
I have nothing against the Jews, but neither did Jesus Christ, yet still they crucified Him.

Without the crucifixion, there would be no Christianity.
Someone had to do it. It was not all Jews. It was not the Romans either, as such.
It was humanity.

So try having some humanity.

When Jews were poor and repressed, they were despised for being poor and repressed.
When many Jews are rich and successful, they are despised for being rich and successful.
That says a lot about those who hate.
Do you feel bad about your own lot in life?
Hey - lets blame someone else! Who's first?
Crnogorac  3 | 111  
10 Nov 2007 /  #124
@ Osiol

Just to clear things up, I do not measure a man by what he is, who he is or from where he is but by his deeds.

I want to say, a Jew is not automatically a Zionist or a bad person by default. But one thing is as clear as daylight, not every Jew is a Zionist but every Zionist is a Jew.

I think that they themselves should deal with this problem, until it's too late. Until they themselves are clear with what it is they wish, and how they wish, to amongst themselves solve the question of Zionist radicalism, non-Jews will consider them as one being. Which is dangerous for all mentioned reasons.

@ Opts

Sorry to have to say this to you, but you are very narrow minded.
joepilsudski  26 | 1387  
10 Nov 2007 /  #125
Obviously Jesus Christ had nothing against the Jews. He was Jewish himself........

How can the Son of God be a Jew, or have any 'religion' for that matter?...God is the 'alpah & omega' or the beginning & end...He is...He belongs to no religion, but is the

One whom religious people seek...Jesus, it is true, come from the tribe of Judah...but these descendants of the ancient Israelite tribe were not 'Jews'...the word/concept did not exist...Judah became Judeans who were a mixed lot both racially & religiously...today's Jews, as described in the 'Encyclopedia Judaica' are considered the 'direct descents of the ancient Pharisees', who Jesus described in many ways, none of them flattering...'Jesus was a Jew' is a from of propaganda used by those who rejected Him, when they think they can score some rhetorical points or make a buck.

not every Jew is a Zionist but every Zionist is a Jew.

Not quite right...many of the leading Zionists were/are non-Jews who are mislead by many myths, both Biblical/Jewish/political...in fact the earliest proponents of a 'Jewish'

movement to Palestine were various Anglo preachers & the like who believed in what has been called 'British-Israelism', a mistaken belief that the British are descendants of

the 12 Tribes and thereby, 'Jewish'...this is a BIG lie that underpins much of Freemasonry...there is much material on this particular angle...and how about Tony Blair,

George Bush and their ilk?...they give all out support to the gangster mob in Tel Aviv, but,as far as can be ascertained, they aren't Jews...just something to consider.
Kilkline  1 | 682  
10 Nov 2007 /  #126
when they think they can score some rhetorical points or make a buck.

Exactly! I mean whose ever heard of a Jewish carpenter? Such honest toil would only be done by good Protestant boy.
POLANDWAKEUP  
10 Nov 2007 /  #127
well said Joe....it is so clear...yet people refuse to see it.

Also people forget how they have lied to go to war with Iraq on the basis of Weaons of Mass destruction. Was anything ever found ? Iraq is now totally destroyed with nearly a million innocent lives taken. Was this the price to pay for Oil ? is any price to high ?

So we have to question: Why do Bush and Blair, Sarkozy and Merkel love Israel so much why? What has Israel ever done for either of these countries to warrant such unconditional love ?
polskiżyd  
10 Nov 2007 /  #128
As far as Jews go, I have and have had many Jewish friends, associates, girlfriends...

"I'm not racist, some of my best friends are black, but..." :p

..I have become interested in the 'Jewish Question' because of my studies of 19th & 20th Century history...also, there is the cult/racket of Jewish victimization, which is propagated by elements of the Jewish leadership, particularly regarding events of WWII, in the US...what the Jewish intellectuals/propagandists belabor as the 'Holocaust' was actually just a small part of the mass slaughter that took place all over Europe in the 20th Century...

It looks like David Irving's started posting here. wtf????
POLANDWAKEUP  
10 Nov 2007 /  #129
Exactly! I mean whose ever heard of a Jewish carpenter? Such honest toil would only be done by good Protestant boy.

....If Jesus (peace be upon him) was a money lender....it would be more believable...
moonmustang  2 | 46  
10 Nov 2007 /  #130
I'm sure by saying this I'm "betraying" my Jewish heritage, but from where I stand I see that the Jews are capable of espousing hate as anyone else. I was thoroughly repulsed by the hatred and indiferrence I can hear if I spend time with many relatives of my family who seem to soon forget that we have cousins, aunts and uncles who died in Auschwitz by the very same hand of ignornace that they now hold.

I do not support Zionism - In my eyes it perpetuates as much death, inhumanity and violence as the so-claimed "muslim terrorist" organizations. Who the f*** gave any of these people the right to claim God and then kill in his name. Talk about blasphemy!!!While I do not claim to be an expert in the situation in Palestine - I personally believe that being born from one of the "12 tribes" or any other heritage give you a right to go kill, uproot and overrun any other people and then proclaim righteousness with blood on your hands before God.

Without the crucifixion, there would be no Christianity.

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How can the Son of God be a Jew, or have any 'religion' for that matter?...God is the 'alpah & omega' or the beginning & end...He is...He belongs to no religion

Amen!!! to both comments. And how many millions have found salvation in Christ?...perhaps the Jews are "chosen" to show reflections from both sides of humanity's coin. It may be both a blessing and a curse. I always got uncomfortable when certain denominations of Christians would come up to me and say "oh you are a Jew, you are one of the Chosen". No - I do not believe salvation is a birthright, but a way of living. There is not "auto pilot" button to liberation from this material world.
POLANDWAKEUP  
10 Nov 2007 /  #131
the 'Holocaust' was actually just a small part of the mass slaughter that took place all over Europe in the 20th Century...

Question to: polskiżyd....Do you really want us to believe that only Jews were the victims of WWII ?

It looks like David Irving's started posting here. wtf????

Looks like people are finally waking up!!!
polskiżyd  
10 Nov 2007 /  #132
Looks like people are finally waking up!!!

Looks like another anti-Semitic troll has started posting!!!
joepilsudski  26 | 1387  
10 Nov 2007 /  #133
"I'm not racist, some of my best friends are black, but..." :p

Actually, Polskizyd, my roomate IS an African-American, or, if you prefer, Black...and, when his Black ass is doing something that it shouldn't, I make him aware of my feelings...now, how about you?...can you give me an 'ethnic census' of your friends?...You won't, either because you are unaware, or maybe, like me, you don't pick your friends because of tribal/ethnic reasons...but, when a particular tribe, whoever they are, try to push crap down our throats, we must reject it.
osiol  55 | 3921  
10 Nov 2007 /  #134
mean whose ever heard of a Jewish carpenter?

jewishledger.com/articles/2007/01/02/news/news02.txt
joepilsudski  26 | 1387  
10 Nov 2007 /  #135
Looks like another anti-Semitic troll has started posting!!!

And on this 'anti-semitic' nonsense...Are you aware that the rulling Elite of Israel are the
Eastern European/Russian Ashkenazim, who have not a drop of Semitic blood in them?...and considering these Ashkenazim call the Arabs 'cockroaches in a bottle' wouldn't that be evidence that the Jews are the real 'anti-semites'?
Crnogorac  3 | 111  
10 Nov 2007 /  #136
These days if anyone is a true patriot, only looking out for the well being of his nation and interests of his country, firmly against losing his national identity, he is automatically labeled as anti-Semitic, neo-fascist, public enemy of the state no.1 by the media propaganda, or in Austria for example, imprisoned for expressing different views on the issue.
Puzzler  9 | 1088  
10 Nov 2007 /  #137
Actually, who cares about this 'antisemitic' nonsense? I wish all of you could get the hell out to another - Jewish, or Semitic, or antisemitic, or antisemiotic, or whatever - forum, where you can fight your rabid fights until you hopefully kick the bucket; let this forum remain Polish, without all this idiotism and rabies. Out, fuking stupid creeps.
POLANDWAKEUP  
10 Nov 2007 /  #138
Looks like another anti-Semitic troll has started posting!!!

stop crying and playing the victim again....lets talk facts.

I wonder how much semite blood you have in you...?

It is estmimated that 85% of current Jewry is of Khazar descent. Can you clarify then what the term anti-semitic is really used for except for the multi-billion dollar propaganda machine..?
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
10 Nov 2007 /  #139
Yawn... Admin should lock this mess...
osiol  55 | 3921  
10 Nov 2007 /  #140
whose ever heard of a Jewish carpenter?

I know a Jewish landscape gardener. I used to know a Jewish sales rep too.
No carpenters, but then I do my own carpentry.
Here's that URL one more time:
jewishledger.com/articles/2007/01/02/news/news02.txt
Kilkline  1 | 682  
10 Nov 2007 /  #141
I'm sure Jews make excellent carpenters. Though I'm not sure how they find the time for woodwork what with running the entire world and organising all of the major events in world history. :)
Crnogorac  3 | 111  
10 Nov 2007 /  #142
Maybe someone will not like my "philosophy" but as far as I know, these kinds of forums and discussions serve for an exchange of thoughts, so that we sometimes try to converge diametrically opposite stands, if for that there is even little space. If we were to be reluctant of saying what we think, then all this would be pointless and totally worthless. In the same way, if we were to be quiet on foolishness and open provocations then we would allow stupidity and destruction to spread like a disease rendering everything worthless and ruining everything in it's path, everything that is worthy and noble.

As far as I'm aware of, I am not insulting anyone here, instead I intend argumentatively to discuss certain questions, the only problem is that individuals lacking any argumentative thesis resort to tendecious statements and unnecessary provocations.
osiol  55 | 3921  
10 Nov 2007 /  #143
Maybe someone will not like my "philosophy" but as far as I know, these kinds of forums and discussions serve for an exchange of thoughts

I agree.
It's better to be aware of other people's opinions, whever they are the same as your own or opposite.
What is freedom of thought without freedom of expression?
How can you know your opposition if all you do is ignore them.

I am only as guilty of flippancy here as certain other people are of adding nothing to the argument other than words of hate.

edit: I just added the word other to the last sentence to keep it grammatically correct.
Patrycja19  61 | 2679  
10 Nov 2007 /  #144
the only problem is that individuals lacking any argumentative thesis resort to tendecious statements and unnecessary provocations.

like accusing someone of wrong doings.

I can agree with your statement.

Question to: polskiżyd....Do you really want us to believe that only Jews were the victims of WWII ?

I know this question is only to him, but in seeing the whole thread and no reference
to your question that he said this.
wakeuppoland  
11 Nov 2007 /  #145
Patrycja19: If you read the thread properly you can see that polskiżyd had an issue the following FACTUAL statement from joepilsudski:

"the 'Holocaust' was actually just a small part of the mass slaughter that took place all over Europe in the 20th Century... "

polskiżyd: What is wrong with this statement ? Pls tell us why you compared joepilsudski to David Irving....? For those who do not know who is David Irving...he is a Historian who doesn't conform to school book history, as should most Historians. We should never simply accept 1 side of the story, as this is was History is...the authors opinion if what happened.

David Irving was jailed in AUSTRIA in 2006 (a freedom of speech loving country)for writing a book which downplayed Hitler's role in WWII. Can you imaging he was actually jailed for expressing his views.

Where is the Freedom of Speech?
Puzzler  9 | 1088  
11 Nov 2007 /  #146
David Irving

- A hate-spewing psychopathic Polonophobe (and Anglophobe) and Germanophile. A compulsive liar. How dare you advertise this creep in this forum? Get lost, Nazi rubbish.
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
11 Nov 2007 /  #147
Jews are not perfect. They sometimes overreact with antisemitism, make oy vey too loud etc. but there is no excuse to side with nazis against Jews.
Patrycja19  61 | 2679  
11 Nov 2007 /  #148
Patrycja19: If you read the thread properly you can see that polskiżyd had an issue the following FACTUAL statement

ok well in seeing that this thread now has all of its comments, I can agree with you
last night as I was replying there was some issues with the site that occured and
I had forwarded them to the admin.. but apparently there was more. because today
this thread has 6 whole threads to it when last night it only had 1 so it was not that
I didnt read it properly, it wasnt there for me to read..

I know this question is only to him, but in seeing the whole thread and no reference
to your question that he said this.

if u notice the only thread was the top of this thread which only shows your question
to him, but magically more are here today. it appears to have fixed.

but as you can see, I only replied to this question as it was the only question at the
top showing up on my screen.

I hope all issues are resolved..
polskiżyd  
11 Nov 2007 /  #149
It is estmimated that 85% of current Jewry is of Khazar descent.

Yet another disproved theory, just like Irving's.

Why don't you f*** off to Stormf*ont or some other forum which may welcome your sick beliefs a little more than this board does.
slick77  - | 127  
11 Nov 2007 /  #150
Yet another disproved theory, just like Irving's.

polski give it a rest. this individual is insane and the majority of people here are aware of that.

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