ArturSzastak 3 | 593
15 Apr 2007 / #31
I'm just pointing out that they weren't even turned into their proper last names.
Polish Jews - they changed their Jewish surnames to Polish
Antigerman
15 Apr 2007 / #32
This is your problem. I am sorry.
ArturSzastak 3 | 593
15 Apr 2007 / #33
It's no problem actually......just making a point for those arguing that they took our last names. European Jews haven't used their last names for a long time. Sometimes they even combined different names.
The list of names was just dumb and unhelpful.
Jews don't run the world, but they have had an unusual degree of influence.
By "Jews" you have to define what you mean. I suppose the best handle for this is to say that someone is a Jew if he has some recent Jewish ancestry and identifies with other Jews and they with him/her.
Interestingly, in mid 19th century Russia Jewish factory workers banded together in an attempt to win Jewish emancipation (roughly at the same time as the serfs). This organisation was large and swamped the Social Democratic Party (the communists) numerically when they merged. As power groupings tend to self-perpetuate (like aristos in present-day Britain), the early years of Communist rule in Russia were dominated by mixed Jews.
More recently (4 or so years ago), the World Congress of Jews issued a report on oligarchs in Russia - complaining how their gangsterish approach to business reflected badly on their Jewish heritage. These are people such as Berezovsky, Abramovich and Khodorkovsky.
And then there were high-profile Jewish Polish communist lackeys helping to run Poland for Russia after the Second World War.
BUT
Most Polish communists were actually Polish, and most mixed Jews were not in government or connected with the government. My best friend in London is a Jew (though Christian) and worked alongside me as a schoolteacher. He hardly runs the world - but he does have a rich brother, if that helps! And he was a close acquaintance of Yehudi Menuhin. But that's still not running the world, is it?
Nepotism and networking exist everywhere in the world - perhaps some Jews try harder at networking ... like the Norman aristocracy has done successfully in England for almost a thousand years.
Jews don't run the world, but they have had an unusual degree of influence.
By "Jews" you have to define what you mean. I suppose the best handle for this is to say that someone is a Jew if he has some recent Jewish ancestry and identifies with other Jews and they with him/her.
Interestingly, in mid 19th century Russia Jewish factory workers banded together in an attempt to win Jewish emancipation (roughly at the same time as the serfs). This organisation was large and swamped the Social Democratic Party (the communists) numerically when they merged. As power groupings tend to self-perpetuate (like aristos in present-day Britain), the early years of Communist rule in Russia were dominated by mixed Jews.
More recently (4 or so years ago), the World Congress of Jews issued a report on oligarchs in Russia - complaining how their gangsterish approach to business reflected badly on their Jewish heritage. These are people such as Berezovsky, Abramovich and Khodorkovsky.
And then there were high-profile Jewish Polish communist lackeys helping to run Poland for Russia after the Second World War.
BUT
Most Polish communists were actually Polish, and most mixed Jews were not in government or connected with the government. My best friend in London is a Jew (though Christian) and worked alongside me as a schoolteacher. He hardly runs the world - but he does have a rich brother, if that helps! And he was a close acquaintance of Yehudi Menuhin. But that's still not running the world, is it?
Nepotism and networking exist everywhere in the world - perhaps some Jews try harder at networking ... like the Norman aristocracy has done successfully in England for almost a thousand years.
Babylon=Nutter, how's that for a translation?
i guess my family's last name use to be Goldberg before the war and then it was changed to its present form :)
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vom
19 Apr 2007 / #37
Reply to TheKruk, UKGUY and those that don't study history and politics.
If you even open up "Encyclopedia Judaica" they themself claim that most of the communist regimes in both poland and russia were ran by 97% Jews, in documents by US govt (you can get copy's by emailing US govt) they can confirm that). The thing about european Jews is that they don't just run cafees or usual business for profits, they run things that have strategical values in long term politics, look at shareholders in ALL polish media (except TV-Trwam and Radio-maria), they are not Catholics, Chirstians nor Muslims they are Zionists, same goes to the "Federal Reserve". This has nothing to do with Poles beeing intolerate of foreigners, my question: How tolerae would the Israeli government be if Jerusalem-Post, Haaretz and the other Israeli media were ran by Iranians, shouldnt they be examplary in the "tolerance"... well i thought so, a country that allows foreigners to own it's media is suicide... media tells people what to believe and turns it's most democratic values into the worst tyranny and slavery. If you are an Israeli and dislike that Poland wants now it's country back from the Jewish-Communist Rule go back to your "homeland" Israel, nobody is holding you here, from there you can scream anti-Semite and twist Partiotism to be Nazism all you want, nobody will listen neither will we, nor will the Russian people that currently support Putin.
If you are still unaware of the Zionist Powers please watch the doc. videos:
youtube.com/watch?v=YtwD12ZV5wQ
youtube.com/watch?v=Nch43wy8Zb8
Also theres alot of well investigated documentation available at
iamthewintess.com and polonica.net
P.S. When i say Jew's i don't mean the race nor religion, i mean the tiny group of very wealthy people, most Jew's even in Israel are beein deceived and are victim of this Zionist sickness.
Take care folks, peace.
If you even open up "Encyclopedia Judaica" they themself claim that most of the communist regimes in both poland and russia were ran by 97% Jews, in documents by US govt (you can get copy's by emailing US govt) they can confirm that). The thing about european Jews is that they don't just run cafees or usual business for profits, they run things that have strategical values in long term politics, look at shareholders in ALL polish media (except TV-Trwam and Radio-maria), they are not Catholics, Chirstians nor Muslims they are Zionists, same goes to the "Federal Reserve". This has nothing to do with Poles beeing intolerate of foreigners, my question: How tolerae would the Israeli government be if Jerusalem-Post, Haaretz and the other Israeli media were ran by Iranians, shouldnt they be examplary in the "tolerance"... well i thought so, a country that allows foreigners to own it's media is suicide... media tells people what to believe and turns it's most democratic values into the worst tyranny and slavery. If you are an Israeli and dislike that Poland wants now it's country back from the Jewish-Communist Rule go back to your "homeland" Israel, nobody is holding you here, from there you can scream anti-Semite and twist Partiotism to be Nazism all you want, nobody will listen neither will we, nor will the Russian people that currently support Putin.
If you are still unaware of the Zionist Powers please watch the doc. videos:
youtube.com/watch?v=YtwD12ZV5wQ
youtube.com/watch?v=Nch43wy8Zb8
Also theres alot of well investigated documentation available at
iamthewintess.com and polonica.net
P.S. When i say Jew's i don't mean the race nor religion, i mean the tiny group of very wealthy people, most Jew's even in Israel are beein deceived and are victim of this Zionist sickness.
Take care folks, peace.
europe awake
19 Apr 2007 / #38
Communism was created by jews. They own over 95% of the worlds media.
Jews Rule they have always and will always the are Gods Chosen people the Bible mentions it ! Im not Jewish but i respect them they have gone through alot and they are very good people and cleaver.
Nothing wrong with any other human being.
It does not matter. So simple become an Atheist, not god no problem, or is it still my god is better than your god?
You have a big nose, you have blond hair you have thick lips, you have a different skin colour, you have big nostrils, you have curly hair.So what?
Hath not a Jew eyes?
Hath not a Jew hands, organs, dimensions, senses, affections,
passions, fed with the same food, hurt with the same weapons,
subject to the same diseases, healed by the same means, warmed
and cooled by the same winter and summer, as a Christian is? If
you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh?
If you poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we
not revenge? If we are like you in the rest, we will resemble you
in that. If a Jew wrong a Christian, what is his humility?
Revenge. If a Christian wrong a Jew, what should his sufferance
be by Christian example? Why, revenge. The villainy you teach me
I will execute; and it shall go hard but I will better the
It does not matter. So simple become an Atheist, not god no problem, or is it still my god is better than your god?
You have a big nose, you have blond hair you have thick lips, you have a different skin colour, you have big nostrils, you have curly hair.So what?
Hath not a Jew eyes?
Hath not a Jew hands, organs, dimensions, senses, affections,
passions, fed with the same food, hurt with the same weapons,
subject to the same diseases, healed by the same means, warmed
and cooled by the same winter and summer, as a Christian is? If
you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh?
If you poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we
not revenge? If we are like you in the rest, we will resemble you
in that. If a Jew wrong a Christian, what is his humility?
Revenge. If a Christian wrong a Jew, what should his sufferance
be by Christian example? Why, revenge. The villainy you teach me
I will execute; and it shall go hard but I will better the
europe awake
21 Apr 2007 / #41
Jews create anti-semitism through zionism. It is that one thing that fuels the hatred towards them. Of coarse not all are zions.
Europe awake ,
please stop with the anti-Jew slurs:)
You should respect a nation of people like the Jews who for more than two thousand years had no country of their own and were dispersed around Europe and the world. It is outstanding that the Jews survived and amazing that they flourished and prospered and were able to maintain their language and culture.
please stop with the anti-Jew slurs:)
You should respect a nation of people like the Jews who for more than two thousand years had no country of their own and were dispersed around Europe and the world. It is outstanding that the Jews survived and amazing that they flourished and prospered and were able to maintain their language and culture.
europe awake
21 Apr 2007 / #43
"You should respect a nation of people like the Jews who for more than two thousand years had no country of their own and were dispersed around Europe and the world. "
If you knew anything about the religion you would realize jews are not supposed to have a country. They are supposed to live amongst everyone. This is in the torah it also states if jews claim land there will be nothing but problems. Israel is a non stop war zone. There is a difference between judism and zionism. There are plenty of anti zionist jewish rabbi's in fact when israel was in the process of being established the orthodox jews that lived in what was once known as palestine did not want to be included in the state. There are many great jewish people but the zionists give them a bad name.
For more information on jews against zionism visit here
.jewsagainstzionism.com Of coarse they have been slandered in the media and called self haters and this and that. Anyone who is not so brainwashed can see these people are not self haters but true to their religion. They also have taken slack for going to the IRANIAN holocaust confrence AKA (iran holocaust denial conference) In which these jews clearly said the holocaust DID happen because they had lived through it.
If you knew anything about the religion you would realize jews are not supposed to have a country. They are supposed to live amongst everyone. This is in the torah it also states if jews claim land there will be nothing but problems. Israel is a non stop war zone. There is a difference between judism and zionism. There are plenty of anti zionist jewish rabbi's in fact when israel was in the process of being established the orthodox jews that lived in what was once known as palestine did not want to be included in the state. There are many great jewish people but the zionists give them a bad name.
For more information on jews against zionism visit here
.jewsagainstzionism.com Of coarse they have been slandered in the media and called self haters and this and that. Anyone who is not so brainwashed can see these people are not self haters but true to their religion. They also have taken slack for going to the IRANIAN holocaust confrence AKA (iran holocaust denial conference) In which these jews clearly said the holocaust DID happen because they had lived through it.
Europa dig in your family history and you might find out your great grand father's name was Izaak :)
europe awake
21 Apr 2007 / #45
"Europa dig in your family history and you might find out your great grand father's name was Izaak "
What does that have to do with anything? I have nothing against jews. Why the comments? As for my family history I have traced it back very far. It was always important on both sides of my family to keep our history intact. No hebrew in me.
What does that have to do with anything? I have nothing against jews. Why the comments? As for my family history I have traced it back very far. It was always important on both sides of my family to keep our history intact. No hebrew in me.
angela
21 Apr 2007 / #46
You people should find better things than this to discuss it does not do you credit!
john sobieski
24 Apr 2007 / #47
Is hanna gronkiewicz waltz's husband Polish? Is Waltz a Polish name? Just curious.
moja-droga
25 Apr 2007 / #48
There is no 'shame' in changing your name to "belong" .
After all, when in Rome, do as the Romans do.
I changed my name from Zbigniew to "Bob" when I emigrated to a English speaking country
However, there are almost 8,000,000,000 ( 8 Billion) people on the earth, and only about 6,000,000 (6 Million) in Israel.
(and not all of them are Jewish). There are very few Polish people in Israel.
And about another 4 Million Jewish people world wide. So Jews only compromise 0.075% of the world's population.
Poland has 38.5 Million.
If someone is successful, it's better to ask them "how" they did it, and try to be successful also. But human jealousy interferes with rational thinking.
After all, when in Rome, do as the Romans do.
I changed my name from Zbigniew to "Bob" when I emigrated to a English speaking country
However, there are almost 8,000,000,000 ( 8 Billion) people on the earth, and only about 6,000,000 (6 Million) in Israel.
(and not all of them are Jewish). There are very few Polish people in Israel.
And about another 4 Million Jewish people world wide. So Jews only compromise 0.075% of the world's population.
Poland has 38.5 Million.
If someone is successful, it's better to ask them "how" they did it, and try to be successful also. But human jealousy interferes with rational thinking.
Great Leader
25 Apr 2007 / #49
Here come all the multiculturalists -
Now you will be accused of anti-semitism you must be anti-Israel also.
You must understand the history. Poland did not even exist as a state for a long time. Now people like you argue for "multiculturalism" and "immigration" and foreigners buying Polish land. All of this contributes to Poland not being home to Polish people anymore but for anyone. That is unacceptable.
Israel is for Jews, Poland is for Polish people. It is not racist to want only your own ethnic group in your own country. If you argue otherwise, you are the racist because you encourage others to come to the country simply because they are different.
Now you will be accused of anti-semitism you must be anti-Israel also.
You must understand the history. Poland did not even exist as a state for a long time. Now people like you argue for "multiculturalism" and "immigration" and foreigners buying Polish land. All of this contributes to Poland not being home to Polish people anymore but for anyone. That is unacceptable.
Israel is for Jews, Poland is for Polish people. It is not racist to want only your own ethnic group in your own country. If you argue otherwise, you are the racist because you encourage others to come to the country simply because they are different.
Why aren't Polish people generally very tolerant of others?
Because in Poland they do a good job of keeping rap and other crap out of the country by shunning people who listen to it.
They don't need people telling them that they should be more open because it's the right thing to do. Leave them alone.
Now you will be accused of anti-semitism you must be anti-Israel also.
I believe it is known as ethnopluralism.
Wiki it.
Great Leader, could you perhaps create an account. It would be beneficial to the forums.
Because in Poland they do a good job of keeping rap and other crap out of the country
there is a lot of hip hop and rap in Poland :)
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I travel through Puszkow on the train twice a day.
The music bleating out of their earphones leaves much to be desired.
Oh - it must be a Jewish plot. /yawn/
However, I'm not saying Jews are fantastic or that Israel is the best country ever invented.
It's just I think there are far more important things to be getting on with in life.
The music bleating out of their earphones leaves much to be desired.
Oh - it must be a Jewish plot. /yawn/
However, I'm not saying Jews are fantastic or that Israel is the best country ever invented.
It's just I think there are far more important things to be getting on with in life.
svpor
27 Apr 2007 / #53
Richard Lukas or Antony Lowestein - it will help you to understand more - google it now
Just letting u know Antony Loewenstein com - not opening
Just letting u know Antony Loewenstein com - not opening
joepilsudski 26 | 1387
27 Apr 2007 / #54
THE 'JEWS' HAVE TORTURED POLES, RUSSIANS & UKRAINIANS FOR CENTURIES...THE
CULMINATION WAS THE 20TH CENTURY WHEN THE 'JEWISH' BOLSHEVIKS SLAUGHTERED
MILLIONS OF RUSSIAN & UKRAINIAN CHRISTIANS/NATIONALISTS...PILSUDSKI BOUGHT
SOME TIME FOR THE POLES BY STOPPING THE 'JEWISH' ARMY AT WARSAW IN 1920...BY
THE TIME HITLER CAME TO POWER IN GERMANY, IT WAS TOO LATE; THE NATIONAL SO-
CIALISTS WERE DETERMINED TO ELIMINATE THE BOLSHEVIK STATE & POLAND LAY IN THEIR PATH...OF COURSE, STALIN WHO HATED, BUT WAS ALWAYS READY TO USE 'JEWS'
FOR HIS DIRTY WORK, SAW WHAT WAS COMING; HE BOUGHT TIME FOR RUSSIAN BY CUTTING A DEAL W/HITLER & POLAND WAS PLUNGED INTO HELL...AFTER THE WAR, STALIN PUT HIS LOYAL POLISH 'JEWS' IN POWER IN POLAND & THE TORTURE CONTINUED...IT IS DIFFICULT TO DETERMINE CURRENT EVENTS IN POLAND FROM U.S.
SOURCES, AS THE MEDIA IS RUN BY 'JEWS' & THE POLISH COMMUNITY IS EXTREMELY
CONSERVATIVE & FEARFUL & DON'T REALLY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE ALTERNATIVE MEDIA (i.e. THYE INTERNET)...I WOULD WARN POLAND ABOUT THIS U.S. MISSILE SHIELD;
THIS IS JUST ANOTHER ZIONIST PLOY TO CONTROL THEIR BELOVED 'HOMELAND' OF
POLAND...INSTEAD THE POLISH GOVERNMENT SHOULD STEER A MIDDLE-COURSE & SEEK SOME ACCORD W/RUSSIA-PUTIN, PRIMARILY IN ECONOMIC AFFAIRS...THE UNITED STATES WILL SELL OUT POLAND WHENEVER THE 'JEWS' DECIDE POLAND IS NOT PRODUCING ENOUGH PROFITS FOR THEIR BANKS & CORPORATIONS...SO, POLAND BEWARE!...ARM YOURSELF, BUT DO NOT TRUST AMERICAN ZIONISTS AS 'PARTNERS'
CULMINATION WAS THE 20TH CENTURY WHEN THE 'JEWISH' BOLSHEVIKS SLAUGHTERED
MILLIONS OF RUSSIAN & UKRAINIAN CHRISTIANS/NATIONALISTS...PILSUDSKI BOUGHT
SOME TIME FOR THE POLES BY STOPPING THE 'JEWISH' ARMY AT WARSAW IN 1920...BY
THE TIME HITLER CAME TO POWER IN GERMANY, IT WAS TOO LATE; THE NATIONAL SO-
CIALISTS WERE DETERMINED TO ELIMINATE THE BOLSHEVIK STATE & POLAND LAY IN THEIR PATH...OF COURSE, STALIN WHO HATED, BUT WAS ALWAYS READY TO USE 'JEWS'
FOR HIS DIRTY WORK, SAW WHAT WAS COMING; HE BOUGHT TIME FOR RUSSIAN BY CUTTING A DEAL W/HITLER & POLAND WAS PLUNGED INTO HELL...AFTER THE WAR, STALIN PUT HIS LOYAL POLISH 'JEWS' IN POWER IN POLAND & THE TORTURE CONTINUED...IT IS DIFFICULT TO DETERMINE CURRENT EVENTS IN POLAND FROM U.S.
SOURCES, AS THE MEDIA IS RUN BY 'JEWS' & THE POLISH COMMUNITY IS EXTREMELY
CONSERVATIVE & FEARFUL & DON'T REALLY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE ALTERNATIVE MEDIA (i.e. THYE INTERNET)...I WOULD WARN POLAND ABOUT THIS U.S. MISSILE SHIELD;
THIS IS JUST ANOTHER ZIONIST PLOY TO CONTROL THEIR BELOVED 'HOMELAND' OF
POLAND...INSTEAD THE POLISH GOVERNMENT SHOULD STEER A MIDDLE-COURSE & SEEK SOME ACCORD W/RUSSIA-PUTIN, PRIMARILY IN ECONOMIC AFFAIRS...THE UNITED STATES WILL SELL OUT POLAND WHENEVER THE 'JEWS' DECIDE POLAND IS NOT PRODUCING ENOUGH PROFITS FOR THEIR BANKS & CORPORATIONS...SO, POLAND BEWARE!...ARM YOURSELF, BUT DO NOT TRUST AMERICAN ZIONISTS AS 'PARTNERS'
ahhh he's just a whacky American Musician :)
This is the only place these opinions can be seen/hear from these guys
I'm sure it'll close soon
This is the only place these opinions can be seen/hear from these guys
I'm sure it'll close soon
joepilsudski 26 | 1387
27 Apr 2007 / #56
I DONT MEAN TO DEPRESS YOU MIRANDA, BUT AMERICA HAS ENDURED ALMOST 20 YEARS
OF BUSH/CLINTON & THE NEO-COHENS...WE ARE BEING OVERUN BY MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS FROM MEXICO & THE THIRD-WORLD...OUR ECONOMY IS COLLAPSING WITH INFLATION AT ABOUT 15%...AND OF COURSE, TWO WARS IN IRAQ
FOR OIL & ISRAEL WITH 12000 AMERICAN SERVICEMAN/WOMEN KILLED, THOUSANDS
MORE SICK & MAIMED, 200000-300000 IRAQUI PEOPLE MURDERED...IT IS NOT A PRETTY
PICTURE...I JUST WANT TO WARN THE POLISH PEOPLE, BECAUSE THESE SAME FORCES
ARE OPERATING IN POLAND NOW...DON'T LET IT RUIN YOUR DAY,BUT: KNOWLEDGE IS
POWER
OF BUSH/CLINTON & THE NEO-COHENS...WE ARE BEING OVERUN BY MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS FROM MEXICO & THE THIRD-WORLD...OUR ECONOMY IS COLLAPSING WITH INFLATION AT ABOUT 15%...AND OF COURSE, TWO WARS IN IRAQ
FOR OIL & ISRAEL WITH 12000 AMERICAN SERVICEMAN/WOMEN KILLED, THOUSANDS
MORE SICK & MAIMED, 200000-300000 IRAQUI PEOPLE MURDERED...IT IS NOT A PRETTY
PICTURE...I JUST WANT TO WARN THE POLISH PEOPLE, BECAUSE THESE SAME FORCES
ARE OPERATING IN POLAND NOW...DON'T LET IT RUIN YOUR DAY,BUT: KNOWLEDGE IS
POWER
We are very tolerant.
unless you want a gay pride parade, buy property in Poland BUT its ok if you want to trade your polish woman for Oil? am i wrong G? (god i hope so)
It is not racist to want only your own ethnic group in your own country.
eh, yes, it is racist. its called xenophobia.
If you argue otherwise, you are the racist because you encourage others to come to the country simply because they are different.
eh, no, We're not advocated that at all. we saying free people have free movement and are entitled to do so. that is not encouragement, merely stating a human right.
Because in Poland they do a good job of keeping rap and other crap out of the country by shunning people who listen to it.
there is a lot of hip hop and rap in Poland :)
Witek said it best
as to Polish Jews, why would you harbour such resentment against them? ive read this entire thread twice (as a mod and as a member) and see NOTHING that precipitates what is being spewn here.imho
this thread should be closed
its a pretty sad topic but its not breaking rules and is 'clean' discussion
Great Leader
27 Apr 2007 / #58
THE TRUTH HAS BEEN SPOKEN
GLOBALISTS ARE IN PL AS WELL NOW
GLOBALISTS ARE IN PL AS WELL NOW
WE ARE BEING OVERUN BY MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS FROM MEXICO & THE THIRD-WORLD
Overrun? LOL what in gods name are you babbling about?? Where in the backs of diners and restaurants? Hey, my lawn looks nice.... ok?
Great Leader
27 Apr 2007 / #60
12 million illegals