Polish Jews - they changed their Jewish surnames to Polish

To JOEPILSUDSKI

(You admit that Jews don't control the world but then proceed to give reasons why you think they do.)

1. Even though Jews might be overrepresented in the business world proportionate to their numbers, they're still a small minority in comparison to the business and politics movers and shakers of Anglo, Scottish, Irish, German,, French, Dutch, and other European descent. To say otherwise is not to know the facts and/or parrot age-old prejudices. Anyone who agrees with Hitler, Goering, Goebbels, Mussolini, Stalin, Bin Laden, and other heavyweights of evil needs to have their head and soul examined.

It's interesting that those who accuse Jews of controlling the world never bring up their disproportionate numbers in those fields where merit and talent are incontrovertible and where they cannot be faked or promoted by Jewish protectionism - as in sciences, literature, music, technology, visual arts, architecture, chess, and yes, even sports. In the coming posts, I'll submit to you some of those names. Without even recognizing it, your lives have been enriched or made easier in many ways through the contributions of those people.

2. Very few Jews are orthodox in their interpretation of sacred texts. Those that are orthodox don't participate in public life. Very few Jews consider themselves separate from humanity. On the contrary, they are fully and willingly assimilated in most countries of the world, intermarry with non-Jews and participate fully in public life. A native French, American, German, or Czech Jew is almost indistinguishible from the other natives in his/her appearance, outlook, or behavior. If some of them possess certain Semitic physical characteristics, these could pass for southern Italian, Armenian, Spanish, or Arabic features. But, as someone said, if you forget that you're Jewish, there'll always be someone to brutally remind you of it.

As for the charge of Jews being a chosen people, crucial to the Jewish notion of chosenness is that it creates obligations exclusive to Jews, while non-Jews receive from God other covenants and other responsibilities. Generally, it does not entail exclusive rewards for Jews. It says nowhere in those texts that Jews should be overlords above everyone else. Kabballah is a book of mystical teachings that deal with the ideas of creation and concepts of a spiritual nature, but it has never been in the mainstream of Judaism and is read and observed by very few Jews.

3. You offer no facts or illustration here. What names and historical facts have been changed? In what way do Jews define themselves as they see fit? Jewishness is an ethnic and religious designation. I'm ethnically Jewish, but I'm not religious. If I converted to Catholicism, I'd still be ethnically Jewish. On the other hand, you don't have to be ethnically Jewish, but you can convert to Judaism, which would make you religiously but not ethnically Jewish. It's as simple as that, and it's always been like that - no changes or problems with self-identity at all.

The rabbis are changing names and history, crave domination and power? Are you for real? Obviously, you've never met a rabbi in your life and have no idea what they do and how modest their lives are. If I were to apply your paranoid logic, I would have more substance to accuse the Vatican of world domination, with its centralized power structure, vast material resources, and global outreach. There is The World Jewish Congress, but to compare it to the Vatican is to compare Lichtenstein to the Roman Empire.

As to Jewish leaders victimizing their own people and non-Jews by domination cravings and worshipping money and power - there you go again. You've swallowed the propaganda of Hitler, Himmler, Goering. Goebbels, Streicher, and all of their other henchmen hook, line, and sinker. We all know what the verdict of that ideology was at the Nuremberg Trials. And we all know what the verdict was at another, recent, trial of David Irving, another Jew-hater and history revisionist. Are those your heroes and role models? If so, I repeat my suggestion from before. Paranoia can be controlled with medication these days.

My post was addressing the question/accusation of 'anti-semitism' that is thrown around by those who know not of which they speak...The firs part was related to the

allegation that "Jews run the world'...I gave my view on that...the second part related to the question 'Why do people have negative opinions on Jews'...I gave my view on that...both of these questions are asked repeatedly on the thread...as far as my giving

any validation to the 3 reasons why people are suspicious of Jews, you will have to read history yourself, including, possibly the Talmud & other Talmudic tracts such as 'Toledoth Yeshu' or the writings of Maimonides and other Judaic theologians...as far as Jews changing identity/history, this is an incontrovertible fact...they change their names whenever it suits their purposes for business, usually to try & blend in with their

host nation...the Israelis try to change history evry day in that country, by creating 'facts
on the ground' that create a new Zionist reality, while attempting to expel/exterminate the Palestinian people...as far as my swallowing 'nazi' propaganda, I reject it completely, but you ought to be aware that the Nazis/Zionists collaborated in many areas during WWII for the establishment of the state of Israel & the expulsion of Eastern European Jews...many high-ranking Nazis were Jewish or part Jewish, including

Heydrich, Eichmann & yes, good old Adolph...the average Jewish person is not aware of many of these realities, because it is suppressed information (although there is a book

called 'The Transfer Agreement' published by a major publishing that details elements of
this)...I hope I have addressed some of what you have inquired about, and if you would
like to discuss it more you can email me...by the way, Ned, if you are Jewish, I would consider myself 'Rodef Shalom'...Peace

Jewish athletes and chess players that made their achievements thru The World Jewish Congress protectionism and the thirst for world domination of their rabbis. Another theory is that the American Neo-Cons (Wolfowitz, Pearl, Chertoff) may have had to do something with it:

Boris Becker, Pete Sampras, Brad Gilbert, Brian Gottfried, Aaron Krickstein, Amos Mansdorf, Tom Okker, Fanny Blankers-Koen, Irina Press, Tamara Press, Red Holzman, Nancy Lieberman, Max Baer, Oksana Baiul, Alain Calmat, Irina Rodnina, Bela Guttmann, Tatiana Lisenko, Kerry Strug, Vitaly Davydov, Yury Moiseev, Bernie Ecclestone, Stirling Moss, Carlos Reutemann, Ian Scheckter, Jody Scheckter, Tomas Scheckter, Mark Spitz, Victor Barna, Angelica Rozeanu, Ana Sipos, Miklos Szabados.... (to be contd.)

Jewish athletes

You forgot the great Jewish- American boxers Barney Ross & Max Baer...and Liverpool AC has a very good Israeli striker playing with them now...and, also, one of the greatest

pitchers I ever saw, Sandy Koufax.

midfield player not striker

I stand corrected...he's been scoring quite a few goals, so I guess I consider him more of a striker than their other strikers.

The NAZI's were able to effortlessly annihilate so many Jews in Poland (just like the Japs could have done with the Chinese by fencing off China-towns), because they congregated in their own suburbs, but £ódź always was 60% Jewish... with the 40% Poles that were used as workforce in the manchester and service industry there. (1911 World Almanac)

But, on the topic, in most cases they changed their own names. Thus Lech Walesa's father has a different name, while Aleksander Kwasniewski's father also had a different name (incidentally Kwas's father was a prominent NKVD officer in Poland and responsible for ordering the execution of tens of Polish freedom fighters in the 1950's).

I didn't even touch baseball or American football and many other minor sports because those names wouldn't be familiar to European readers. My list is just the tip of an iceberg.

Also, many Jews did not speak a word of Polish, even though they came fro families who lived in Poland for generations. Many Germans spoke better Polish than a good number of Polish Jews. (Milosz's Memoirs are a good source of info on the subject)

BABYLON is RIGHT!!!
AntiJEWISH does not mean antiSEMITIC one can be happily anti jewish whilst being a Seminte - just ask any Arab! :D
To those puzzled:

Semite is a descendant of Shem, Son of Noah, which apart from Jews includes: Arabs, Asyrians, Phoenicians (Turks and even Greeks!)

NAZI's were antiJEWIS (JUDEN RAUS, Star of David, all that stuff)
In WWII the Allies were faced with a real possibility of Turkey entering the war on Germany's side (as in WW I). To prevent this, the World Jewish Congress asked "WHY do NAZIs hate us?" and the NAZI's fell for the trick and said - because of your RACE...

The Jews then said: "But we are Semites - if you hate us, you must hate all Semites". To the NAZI's reply so what? The Jews said: "But that includes all Arabs, and Greeks, and Asyrians and... Turks!"

Consequently Turkey remained cautious (and neutral) and the rest is History.

The term antisemite has proved so effective subsequently, as it had an associated "guilt" (the Allies did not want to believe the Polish Government as to what the Germans were doing in Poland, dismissing it as "war-mongering") and the Jewish lobby has had a free-hand pretty much since then.

A respected Monash University - Melbourne, Australia - (btw - Sir Monash was a Jew ;D - he even missed out on promotion to General in the Australian Army for that very reason!) JEWISH professor of Jewish Studies, Antony Loewenstein, recently wrote a book on what BABYLON says (except the Polish bits) entitled "My Jewish Question" (first thing that pops up in Google!).

I think all those that can read ought to get it and stop being so plainly studid or deliberately ignorant.

The Point is:
1. George W. Bush's jnr Grandfather was Adolf Hitler's Personal Banker

2. George W. Bush was member of "Skull and Bones" fraternity in his University days

3. Is it surprising, that he has precipitated a bloody conflict between Semites?

Remember, the best way to destroy your enemies is to let themselves destroy each other (lower level guards in NAZI Concentration Camps WERE JEWS!)

That's how you achieve "3." - take the smallest sect within your enemies and support them in destroying the larger group. If you succeed, it's much easier to then destroy the small group. The Jews are playing a dangerous game with the assistance of the US White Extremists - interesting to watch... scary to predict...

And lastly, to the fool who said "live and let live" this is a Polish Politics and HISTORY forum - if it doesn't interest you - don't bother reading (and especially replying!) ;D

Ahem... sorrryyy that book title is "My Israel Question"... nice reads - tells ya why US is so pro-Israel... :D
Do buy it - Amazon.com sells it - makes good reads! :)

(I was temporarily unable to log in as BIGLARRY, so I re-registered as NED. Now I'm able to use BIGLARRY again, and hopefully, I won't have to change it)

(Kuc 671:
"But, on the topic, in most cases they changed their own names. Thus Lech Walesa's father has a different name, while Aleksander Kwasniewski's father also had a different name (incidentally Kwas's father was a prominent NKVD officer in Poland and responsible for ordering the execution of tens of Polish freedom fighters in the 1950's).")

The more time I spend on this forum and the more I read about the Polish political life, the more I realize what a nest of vipers and disinformation today's Poland is. In the 1995 presidential campaign, Walesa caused an uproar when he failed to criticize a friend, Catholic priest, for his anti-Semitic remarks. On another ocasion, Walesa accused Mazowiecki of being Jewish. An anonymous politician was qouted by New York Times during that same campaign: "We will see anti-Semitism in the presidential campaign, we are already seeing it. And Walesa obviously stands to gain because no one claims he has Jewish roots." The politician was referring to accusations by an opposing party that Kwasniewski father was Jewish.

This doesn't exactly square with your claim, Kuc671, of Walesa's and Kwasniewski's Jewishness? I was unable to find any evidence on the Internet about these two persons' Jewish roots. Are you and your ilk maybe labeling Kwas with the most odious label you can find in your vocabulary because he apologized on behalf of the Poles for the massacre of Jedwabno?

And even if it were true that Kwas's father was responsible for the deaths of many Poles - so what? Are the children responsible for the misdeeds of their fathers until the end of the world? No, everyone bears their own responsibility, and it ends with their death. That certainly had not been the official creed of the Catholic church for some 2000 years, until 1965, when an American nun, sister Rose, forced the Vatican to change it and admit to the unfairness of it. Unfortunately, it continues to be a virulent creed amongst the majority of the church's flock, especially in Poland. However, if Poland wants to join the modern world, the Poles must internalize that people should be judged on their individual merits, not as members of tribes and nationalities. There is no liberal democracy without that notion.

Instead of hanging out at these forums, listening to your parents', relatives', and friends' anti-Jewish indoctrination and reading right-wing pamphlets that only reinforce your prejuduces, you'd be better off sitting at a library and reading mainstream history books by reputable authors with established credibility.

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kuc671

An English poet said, "Little learning is a most dangerous thing." He must've thought of you and your ideological friends. Your posts (and many others) are such jumbles of undigested history, half-truths and outright lies that to continue, I would consider myself a living proof of the saying that if you get into a dispute with fools, you run the risk of being called one yourself.

Jewish chess players that made their achievements thru The World Jewish Congress protectionism and the thirst for world domination of their rabbis. Another theory is that the American Neo-Cons (Wolfowitz, Pearl, Chertoff) may have had to do something with it. Of course, I'm providing only the best-known names here to minimize the impression of the total domination of Jews in this field:

Yury Averbakh, Aleksandar Beliavsky, Isaac Boleslavsky, Mikhail Botvinik, David Bronstein, Josif Dorfman, Bobby Fischer, Salo Flohr, Boris Gelfand, Efim Geller, Harry Golombek, Ilya Gurevich, Gary Kasparov, Viktor Korchnoi, Alla Kusnir, Emanuel Lasker, Miguel Najdorf, Aron Nimzowitch, Lev Polugaevsky, Sam Reshevsky, Richard Reti, Vasily Smyslov, Leonid Stein, Wilhelm Steinitz, Laszlo Szabo, Mark Taimanov, Mikhail Tal, Siegbert Tarrasch, Savielly Tartakower.

Jewish comedians and humorists that made their achievements thru The World Jewish Congress protectionism and the thirst for world domination of their rabbis. Another theory is that the American Neo-Cons (Wolfowitz, Pearl, Chertoff) may have had to do something with it. Of course, I'm providing only the best-known names here to minimize the impression of the total domination of Jews in this field:

Alan King, Erma Bombeck, Mel Blanc (the voice of most cartoon characters), Friz Frelang, George Burns, Fanny Brice, Marx Brothers, Jack Benny, Stan Freberg, Ray Goulding, Woody Allen, Mel Brooks, Christopher Guest, Carl Reiner, Rob Reiner, the Coen brothers, Jerry Seinfeld, Julia Louis-Dreyfuss, Milton Berle, Sid Caesar, Laraine Newman, Lenny Bruce, Art Buchwald, Rodney Dangerfield, Robert Klein, Jerry Lewis, Walter Matthau, Dennis Miller, Lorne Michaels, Don Rickles, Neil Simon, Don Adams, Jason Alexander, Red Buttons, Eddie Cantor, Andrew Dice Clay, Myron Cohen, Billy Crystal, Larry David, Marty Feldman, Al Franken, Stan Freberg, Gilbert Gottfried, Buddy Hackett, Jon Lovitz, Steve Guttenberg, Gary Shandling, Pee Wee Herman, Goldie Hawn, Andy Kaufman, Danny Kaye, Wendy Liebman, Sam Levenson, Bill Maher, Howie Mandel, Jackie Mason, Ethel Merman, Gilda Radner, Joan Rivers, Jeffrey Ross, Rita Rudner, Bob Saget, Adam Sandler, Rob Schneider, Peter Sellers, Paul Schaffer, Harry Shearer, Pauly Shore, Sarah Silverman, Phil Silvers, Yakov Smirnoff, Jon Stewart, Jerry Stiller, Ben Stiller, Tracey Ullman, Gene Wilder, Henny Youngman, S.J. Perelman, Richard Lewis, Richard Belzer, Elayne Boosler, Gabe Kaplan, Bette Midler, Steve Landesberg, Jack Black, Victor Borge, Albert Brooks.

(Sorry, the system is deafulting my user name as NED again. Not much I can do about it)

Jewish actors and actresses that made their achievements thru The World Jewish Congress protectionism and the thirst for world domination of their rabbis. Another theory is that the American Neo-Cons (Wolfowitz, Pearl, Chertoff) may have had to do something with it. Of course, I'm providing only the best-known names here to minimize the impression of the total domination of Jews in this field:

Jake Gyllenhaal, Scarlett Johansson, Seth Rogen, Sacha Baron Cohen, Mayim Bialik, Selma Blair, Zach Braff, Adrien Brody, Neve Campbell, Jennifer Connely, Corey Feldman, Soleil Moon Fry, Charlotte Gainsbourgh, Sarah Michelle Gellar, Seth Green, Maggie Gyllenhaal, Corey Haim, Kate Hudson, Gwyneth Paltrow, Amanda Peet, Joaquin Phoenix, River Phoenix, Wynona Ryder, Paul Newman, Fred Savage, Alicia Silverstone, Tori Spelling, Rachel Weisz, Paula Abdul, Patricia Arquette, Hank Azaria, Yasmine Bleeth, Lisa Bonet, Helena Bonham Carter, Matthew Broderick, Phoebe Cates, Mindy Cohn, Robert Downey Jr, David Duchovny, Brad Garrett, Gina Gershon, Melissa Gilbert, Jami Gertz, Jennifer Grey, Arye Gross, Daryl Hannah, Jessica Hecht, Helen Hunt, Matthieu Kassovitz, Lisa Kudrow, Martin Landau, Jennifer Jason Leigh, Julia Louis-Dreyfus, Courtney Love, Julianna Margulies, Marlee Matlin, Debra Messing, Maia Morgenstern, Sarah Jessica Parker, Sean Penn, Jeremy Piven, Adam Sandler, Rob Schneider, Liev Schreiber, David Schwimmer, Kyra Sedgwick, Ally Sheedy, Pauly Shore, Helen Slater, Ben Stiller, Jason Alexander, Adam Arkin, Tom Arnold, Alan Arkin, Roseanna Arquette, Ellen Barkin, Robby Benson, Sandra Bernhard, Kate Capshaw, Jamie-Lee Curtis, Daniel Day_lewis, Tony Curtis, Fran Drescher, Tovah Feldschuh, Harvey Fierstein, Carrie Fisher, Stephen Fry, Mira Furlan, Kathie Lee Gifford, Jeff Goldblum, Steve Guttenberg, Amy Irving, Carol Cane, Julie Kavner, Richrad Kind, John Landis Carol Leifer, Melanie Mayron, Larry Miller, Rick Moranis, Don Most, Bebe Neuwirth, Laraine Newman, Ken Olin Mandy Patinkin, David Paymer, Ron Perlman, Kevin Pollak, Paul Reiser, Roseanne Barr, Katey Sagal, Stephen Seagal, Jane Seymour, Wendy Jo Sperber, Stephen Tobolowski, Debra Winger, Mare Winningham, Bob Balaban, Richard Belzer, Albert Brooks, James Caan, Nell Carter, Peter Coyote, Billy Crystal, Larry David, Michael Douglas, Kirk Douglas, Richard Dreyfuss, Harrison Ford, Bonnie Franklin, Paul Michael Glaser, Christopher Guest, Goldie Hawn, Barbara Hershey, Madeline Kahn, Gabe Kaplan, Lanie Kazan, Kevin Kline, Eugene Levy, Bette Midler, Frank Oz, Harold Ramis, Rob Reiner, Peter Riegert, Gary Shandling, Harry Shearer, Ben Stein, Barbara Streisend, Jeffrey Tambor, Lesley Ann Warren, Anson Williams, Henry Winkler, Anouk Aimee, Richard Benjamin, Claire Bloom, Eleanor Bron, Dyan Cannon, Joan Collins, Marty Feldman, Eliot Gould , Charles Grodin, Estelle Harris, Judd Hirsch, Dustin Hoffman, Harvey Keitel, Michael Landon, Louise Lasser, Piper Laurie, Linda Lavin, Shari Lewis, Hal Linden, Tina Louise, Leonard Nimoy, Ron Rifkin, George Segal, William Shatner, Chaim Topol, Gene Wilder, Ed Asner, Lauren Bacall, Herschel Bernardi, Theodore Bikel, Tom Bosley, Abe Vigoda, Mel Brooks, Sid Caesar, Rodney Dangerfield, Peter Falk, Fyvish Finkel, Lee Grant, Buddy hackett, Laurence Harvey, Judy Holiday, Alan King, Harvey Korman, Jerry Lewis, Walter Matthau, Anne Meara, Vic Morrow, Tony Randall, Doris Roberts, Peter Sellers, Rod Serling, Simone Signoret, Jerry Stiller, Jack Warden, Shelley Winters, Jean-Pierre Aumont, Mel Blanc, Red Buttons, Lee Cobb, John Garfield, Paulette Goddard, Lorne Greene, David Kossoff, Herbert Lom, Zero Mostel, Louise Reiner, Dinah Shore, Sylvia Sidney, Phil Silvers, Eli Wallach, Sam Wanamaker, Keenan Wynn, Milton Berle, Melvyn Douglas, Peter Lorre, Ritz Brothers, Jack Benny, George Burns, Hermione Gingold, Leslie Howard, Sam Jaffe, Ida Kaminska, Marx Brothers, Paul Muni, Edward G.Robinson, Joseph Schildkarut, Mae West, Theda Bara, Douglas Fairbanks, Al Jolson, Max Linder, Sophie Tucker, Erich von Stroheim, Ed Wynn, Alla Nazimova, Sarah Bernhadt,

and your point is? because in your case this is quite correct :)

I have noticed that a lot of people think that jews were rich part of our society LOL ... they werent ...

I think that movie Fiddler on the roof shows what was the life of most of jews especially in eastern Poland ... This movie is about Russian jews (our were a little bit richer ;) ) but at the end of movie I think they were expeled to Poland ... it is fiction but shows the reality and central-eastern European Jews ... talking about world conspirancy is in this case misunderstanding



LOL heheh

Jewish FILM DIRECTORS that made their achievements thru The World Jewish Congress protectionism and the thirst for world domination of their rabbis. Another theory is that the American Neo-Cons (Wolfowitz, Pearl, Chertoff) may have had to do something with it. Of course, I'm providing only the best-known names here to minimize the impression of the total domination of Jews in this field:

Woody Allen, Alan Arkin, Ralph Bakshi, Bob Balaban, Richard Benjamin, Marshall Brickman, Albert Brooks, Mel Brooks, Richard Brooks, The Coen Brothers, George Cukor, Michael Curtiz, Jules Dassin, Stanley Donen, Nora Ephron, Max Fleischer, Milos Forman, Fritz Frelang, William Friedkin, Samuel Fuller, Bud Greenspan, Christopher Guest,

Amy Heckerling, Marshall Herskovitz, Peter Hyams, Jan Kadar, Lawrence Kasdan, Irvin Kirshner, Zoltan Korda, Stanley Kubrick, John Landis, Fritz Lang, Mimi Leder, Jennifer Jason Leigh, Mervyn LeRoy, Richard Lester, Barry Levinson, Ernst Lubitsch, Sidney Lumet, Davit Mamet, Tom Mankiewicz, Elaine May, Paul Mazurski, Mike Nichols, Ken Olin, Alan Pakula, Bruce Paltrow, Otto Preminger, Sam Raimi, Harold Ramis, Carl Reiner, Rob Reiner, Martin Ritt, Herbert Ross, Robert Rossen, Mark Rydell, Joel Schumacher, Melville Shavelson, Harry Shearer, Don Siegel, Robert Siodmak, Tod Solondz, Barry Sonnenfeld,Steven Spielberg, Josef von Sternberg, Erich von Stroheim, Billy Wilder, Henry Winkler, Irwin Winkler, William Wyler, Fred Zinnemen, Jerry Zucker, Edward Zwick, Terry Zwigoff, Deborah Kampmeier, Henry Jaglom, Robert Altman, Brian Herzlinger, Gore Verbinski, James Mangold, Jonathan Glazer, Shari Springer Berman, Paul Schrader, Jill Sprecher, Gary Winick, Steven Shainberg, Straw Weisman, David Riker

Woody Allen is a Jew? You'd never guess it from his name. They're sneaky like that though.

Famous French Jews that made their achievements thru The World Jewish Congress protectionism and the thirst for world domination of their rabbis. Another theory is that the American Neo-Cons (Wolfowitz, Pearl, Chertoff) may have had to do something with it. Of course, I'm providing only the best-known names here to minimize the impression of the total domination of Jews in France:

Rene Cassin, Nobel Peace Prize 68; Bernard Kouchner, founder of Medecines Sans Frontires; Jean-Marie Cardinal Lustiger; Robert Badinter, abolished death penalty; Leon Blum, Prime Minister; Laurent Fabius, Prime Minister; Pierre Mendes-France, Prime Minister; Simone Veil, President of European Parliament; Francois Jacob, microbiologist, Nobel 65; Gabriel Lippmann, physicist, Nobel 1908; Andre Michael Lwoff, microbiologist, Nobel 1965;Claude Cohen-Tannoudji, physiscist, Nobel 97;Henry Moissan, chemist, Nobel 1906;Raymond Aron,sociologist;Julien Benda, philosopher, novelist;Henri Bergson, philosopher, Nobel 1927;Jacques Derrida; Emile Durkheim, Alain Finkielkraut, Andre Glucksman, Claude Levi-Strauss, Bernard-Henri Levy, George Steiner, Simone Weil, Camille Pissarro, Chaim Soutine, Ossip Zadkin, Anouk Aimee, Jean-Pierre Aumont, Emmanuelle Beart, Sarah Bernhardt, Alain Chabat, Sami Frey, Agnes Jaoui, Claude Lanzmann, Claude Lelouch, Marcel Marceaux, Jean-Pierre Melville, Joe Dassin, Sacha Distel, Paul Dukas, Serge Gainsbourg, Joseph Kosma, Enrico Masias, Darius Milhaud, Pierre Monteux, Georges Moustaki, Jacques Offenbach, Martial Solal, Tristan Bernard, Paul Celan, Romain Gary, Max Jacob, Andre Maurois, George Perec, Marcel Proust, Nathalie Sarraute, Jean-Jacques Servan_Schreiber, Tristan Tzara, Andre Citroen, Marcel Dassault, Phillippe Kahn, Alphonse Halimi

Are you gonna stop watching Woody Allen's movies or read his books now that you know that he's from your least favorite tribe? And to say that HE is sneaky is to admit that you have never watched a movie of his because he heavily advertises his Jewishness in his movies.

The way people should look at it is- look at all these names and imagine what a poorer world we'd have without these people.

Long live Jewish domination!

I totally agree with your 1st sentence, but something tells me that it's not perfectly sincere. As to the 2nd, these lists are not meant to show Jewish domination but the fact that most famous Jews have achieved their fame based on merit and talent. There are very few fields where they totally dominate, like in chess. In most other fields thay are simply represented disproportionately to their population, just like blacks are in sports or Orientals in IQ tests.

as to IQ it was proved that north nations have higher IQ because there is sth like Winter ;) and it was harder to survive then on south so selection was harder and smarter survived ... some nations were oppressed and simply the strongest survived and their IQ is higher Jews ... Poles ... Stupid Jews died in Auswitz or changed their religion and they are no Jews anymore. Those who survived and havent changed their religion had to be inteligent simply to survive ... The same is with Poles 200 years of Germanisation Russyfication Hitlers occupation ... we had longer selection than some other nations (maybe not so long like jews but difference between us and other slavs is noticeable) ... I hope that now we will show our value like Jews did ...

(I think that 1 point in stats is mistake and we are better than Germans ;) )

these figures are obviously wrong.

everybody knows that too much pasta addles the brain so how can italy have possibly reached the top 5

Actually it is said that northern nations have bigger brains compared to southern ones. The food is to be considered. Dripping is very common in southern "cuisine" (except for Italy, which explains their place in this ranking), whereas northern countries eat "better food". So our brains (for northern Europeans) have evolved and now we are smart.....for some of us, i mean..... ;) LoL

Look at all these Jewish names!...Adams, Phoenix, Stewart, Black, Buttons, Benny, Bruce...I didn't realize that these names were Jewish!!!...were they changed to make them easier to pronounce for Americans instead of say, Adamson, Pholushensky, Steinmetz, or Apfelbaum?...my favorite 'Jewish' name is Miller...as everyone knows, this is

a very common 'Jewish' name all over the world and especially in Russia, Belarus or Ukraine where the name Miller is very widespread...Brooks is a great 'Jewish' name, too.

What an incredible list of Jewish talent!...and, of course, they all made it through hard work and superior ability, because we know that Hollywood & show-business is run by

the Italian mafia & financed by the Anglo-Saxon Protestant bankers...so these Jews worked very hard with great obstacles in their path...you can't argue with talent & genius...and Pee Wee Herman!...oy vay, this man is truly at the pinnacle of his profession!...we can only thank G-d!

PILSUDSKI,

Entertainers of any nationality like to take stage names because their real names may sound outlandish for wider acceptance. In the case of the Jews, they had even more motivation to do so because of the types like you and most other participants in this forum. It's called mimicry, and sometimes it would save their lives. It was a common practice for new U.S. immigrants of any nationality to anglicize their names, or the border officers in the 19th and early 20th centuries would change them themselves since they misheard the pronunciation and wanted to make it easier for themselves. It seems to me that people like you want to have all Jews to have transparent names so that when the time comes again for the Hebes to be singled out for discrimination or extermination, you can point them out without any doubt.

If you don't believe that some persons I listed are Jewish, you can always check them out on the Internet yourself. Some of them are part Jewish, so that can influence the names also. I compiled these lists not on a hunch of what might be a Jewish name but based on the biographies that mentioned Jewish origins. 'Miller' is a frequent Jewish name in America because it's anglicized from German 'Mueller'. I don't know why Mel Brooks, Albert Brooks, and Richard Brooks have those last names, but they are all Jews. In any biography book or encyclopedia, the artist's real name is usually listed next to the stage name. And most of what you consider to be typical Jewish names are actually German, so ethnic purity is not contained in their names anyway.

We can all have our own opinion about the relative merits of the actors and actresses mentioned. The thing is that all of them have achieved a wide acceptance in the U.S. and most of them around the world. The Jewish producers and studio bosses, just like the non-Jewish ones (and there's much more of them) are not gonna hire and keep somebody just because they're Jewish. As you said, it's a business, and they can't afford to run a profitable business on an ethnic basis, especially where talent and ability to produce count.

If Pee Wee Herman is the only name you can single out for criticism, then my lists prove the point I wanted to prove. But even in the case of Pee Wee, you're wrong. Despite his fall from grace for being caught masturbating in a movie theater, he still remains one of the best and most creative children's entertainers in the history of the genre, and not only children's. Again, popularity among children, joy and laughter on their faces as well as box office profits don't lie, but in this case the critics agree too. You should've picked Yasmine Bleeth instead to argue your point.

And yes, the Italian Mafia used to finance the movie industry. The Anglo-Saxon bankers used to and still do because they would be foolish if they didn't participate in the spoils of that industry. You and anybody else who thinks that financing any branch of economy can be limited to any ethnic group are very naive or uninformed. Of course, there is the third possibility of having a hidden agenda, but I'm not gonna beat that old horse again.

That wooshing sound was something going over your head.

Well, at the margins of this topic just to mention I’m looking for someone with Jewish Yiddish origins born or being relative of someone born back in former Poland (Poland itself, White Russia, Ukraine etc).

I’m doing PhD related to the problem of contemporary Jewish identity so some testimonials would be very helpful..

Cheers

KILKLINE,

Since most posts on this forum tend to be anti-Jewish, I thought yours was a sarcastic statement, in line with many others. I didn't have much from you in the way of previous posts to know what your position is on this issue. I apologize if I misunderstood you.

Have you worked out how to use the "quote" button....just highlight the text and click quote.

Slightly more professional....unless you want to follow in Einstein's footsteps and prefere to "COPY & PASTE".

It is web side of Polish Jews it is in Polish so I opened it on side with contacts

I think you should ask them .

fzp.jewish.org.pl/kontakt.html

Yo BigLarry aka NED:

Check out latest news; and please note your viewpoint is now a MINORITY. My sentiments above are also being aired by the BBC:

US storm over book on Israel lobby:

"Commentators the world over refer to it, as though it were a well-established fact that US Jews wield far more influence than their numbers (2% of the population) would suggest." - BBC

Do you also think that the authors of the book are Schizo ?