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Drang nach Osten.


Hueg  - | 319  
23 Oct 2008 /  #31
maybe we need some sharks for them there waters!

That'll explain the fires in the Chunnel then. :)

(Hi Hueg - how's going chicken?)

Hi Shelley. :) Busy chasing after the last warm rays of sun at the moment. It's not only our assets that are getting frozen these days brrr

Life treating you well I hope! :)
southern  73 | 7059  
23 Oct 2008 /  #32
And Czechs...
Lepší jeden prd než deset doktorů...

Can you say ''strc prst skrz krk''?
It is a czech phrase actually.It means ''stick your finger down your neck.''

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Str%C4%8D_prst_skrz_krk
McCoy  27 | 1268  
23 Oct 2008 /  #33
Lepší jeden prd než deset doktorů

very true ;)
Sasha  2 | 1083  
23 Oct 2008 /  #34
Can you say ''strc prst skrz krk''?

Oh yeah... there're lots of such things in Czech. :) I actually love this west-slavic vowelless spelling. If you're asking about modern Russian, then only word "prst" (spelling "perst" in Rus) would be understandable. But it's more like poetical Russian... obsolete word you know... In a daily life we usually use "palez" instead of "perst". Z pronounced as in Deutsch.
southern  73 | 7059  
23 Oct 2008 /  #35
Or the other ''pivo dela hezke tela''.(the beer makes beautiful bodies).
Marek  4 | 867  
23 Oct 2008 /  #36
Apropos the 'Chunnel of Love', would the French ever be insane enough to demand land back which the Normans conquered back in 1066???

Food for thought-:)-:)
Matyjasz  2 | 1543  
23 Oct 2008 /  #37
strc prst skrz krk

Whoa!!! Serbs, eat your heart out! :)
Sasha  2 | 1083  
23 Oct 2008 /  #38
Or the other ''pivo dela hezke tela''

Hey, druzhe... How do you know? that's my second favourite Czech quote... :)) Pivo dělá hezká těla is a right spelling I think. Seems the topic turns to "chtete mluvit cesky" lessons of Czech. :))

very true ;)

Sure! :) Too bad we don't have something similar in russian...
southern  73 | 7059  
23 Oct 2008 /  #39
Pivo dělá hezká těla is a right spelling I think.

I use this as a moto with the Diskoteka Avarya song ''piej pivo,pivo piej''.
joepilsudski  26 | 1387  
23 Oct 2008 /  #40
Drang nach Osten

But of course the German 'volk' needed this 'living space' in the East...And, are not the lands of Poland and the Ukraine theirs by 'natural law'?
Marek  4 | 867  
23 Oct 2008 /  #41
I trust you're being ironic. There are though still some lone hold out lunatic fringe supporters of a sort of beefed up 'Lebensraum' program. A German politician, originally from the former Sudeten area, now Czech Republic thank you very much, actually wanted to pass a bill in the Bundesrat or German Senate some years back, challenging the established postwar Polish-German border!!

And he was for real too--:)
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11820  
23 Oct 2008 /  #42
Well...borders changed all the time in history...
Who knows about borders in hundred years from now...:)
southern  73 | 7059  
23 Oct 2008 /  #43
Who knows about borders in hundred years from now...:)

German dreams.
Wahldo  
23 Oct 2008 /  #44
Bratwurst Boy:
Who knows about borders in hundred years from now...:)

German dreams.

..which will probably mean somebody else's screams.
slo  1 | 51  
23 Oct 2008 /  #45
I am just disappointed how Germans treat Easter Europe - like Russia dominated territory. Recently Ukrainian Ministry Of Foreign Affaires issued Note Of Protest against appearance of German Foreign Minister Mr. Erler on Russian TV with sentences against Ukraine's NATO membership. I would accept it as a confusion if I never watched German DW - very pro-Russian in everything towards E. Europe.
Hueg  - | 319  
23 Oct 2008 /  #46
disappointed how Germans treat Easter

I tend to agree, they go slightly overboard with the whole egg thing and hide the chocolate ones even though fasting is over. Still they make up for it with donuts for all in the bank on pancake day.

Thinking about it is that how we got into this jam in the first place?

What was the question again? :)
ShelleyS  14 | 2883  
24 Oct 2008 /  #47
Apropos the 'Chunnel of Love', would the French ever be insane enough to demand land back which the Normans conquered back in 1066???

Good point..but we have nuclear weapons now :) just let them try :)))) Them damn snail eating heathens ;-) But seriously we should thank the Normans they brought cutlery to Britain :) And thanks to the Romans they gave us roads, not sure what the Saxons brough but they did leave place names behind.
Marek  4 | 867  
24 Oct 2008 /  #48
"Them damn snail eating heathens;-)....."

Tutt, tutt Shel! Musn't lose one's temper. (...even though I'm inclined to agree, he-he!!)

"But seriously we should thank the Normans; they brought cutlery to Britain :).."

Yeah, and a fat lot of good it did you! Now everyone had but another weapon to hurl at a potential adversary, after it had been used to spear food, that is--:)

And "seriously", while we're on the subject, had Will the Conquering Hero never set foot on Saxonland, our spelling wouldn't have become as f_ _ _ _d up as it is, and has been for some time. Hey, there's a good 'ol Saxonism -:). Sorry, I meant 'sullied'. Not as common sounding, plus it's Latin derived.
Seanus  15 | 19666  
13 Nov 2008 /  #49
Drang nach Osten? Hmm...is this some kind of anagram? ;)

I'm an evil tory bigot, this was the best one. For who?
Crow  154 | 9310  
14 Nov 2008 /  #50
Drang nach Osten

its reality, its process
Seanus  15 | 19666  
30 Jun 2009 /  #51
I've read more about this, it was a major policy move. Quite tragic how cavalier they were about it too.
Sokrates  8 | 3335  
30 Jun 2009 /  #52
WE WERE HERE FIRST!

Where here? In Europe? I daresay we arrived in Europe at the same time, in Gdańsk? We, the Poles built it, in Poznań? Also Polish built, Wrocław? Built by Czechs and taken over by Poles (so even here we were before you guys) so BB where exactly were you first?

no germanic tongue survives a "Bydgoszcz", a "Olsztyn", or a "Szczecin"!

Even here you put a blanket statement, Olsztyn i'm forced to agree was first built by Teutonic Knights but for example Szczecin was built by Slavs and first governed by Poles and specifically Mieszko I and his descendandts, even Bydgoszcz is first mentioned as a Polish city in 1238 and later occupied by TO so where were you "first?"

You could probably argue about TO but they arrived to an area typically inhabited by Poles and other nations for over 4 centuries so no you were not first, not in Pomerania, not in Wrocław and Poznań.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11820  
30 Jun 2009 /  #53
so where were you "first?"

:)

Now you are near Berlin...Polish "Drang nach Westen" tsk :)
Sokrates  8 | 3335  
30 Jun 2009 /  #54
*Yawn* en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:EasternEurope750BC.png

And here we have Lusatians well before that :))) We can play with proto expansion maps all day, including early slavic settlements in and around modern day Berlin the hard fact is that we built 90% of cities there, the first chronicles in the region are written in latin by our people, the first stone buildings are chapels built by Poles, the first roads, harbors, villages etc etc, thats hard archeological evidence.

Besides its not our fault that you're dying out, your border towns are peachy with Polish inhabitants, regardless of stereotypes we do work hard, pay our taxes and thats in time when you have less and less of your own people to do that.
1jola  14 | 1875  
30 Jun 2009 /  #55
Well...borders changed all the time in history...
Who knows about borders in hundred years from now...:)

I guess we won't have to worry about the next invasion. :)

broken link removed

40% of German soldiers too fat

"It would be an enormous advantage on the battlefield if they shaped up," the defence ministry admitted yesterday

The army was, he said, "full of fatties ... making us the laughing stock abroad where we're seen as overweight grumpy old men ... compared to the British, we're viewed as pathetic."




I couldn't edit my photo above because I get a message that it is being censored by Admin. Must be an error, right?

guardian.co.uk/world/2008/mar/06/germany.armedforces?gusrc=rss&feed=networkfront
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11820  
30 Jun 2009 /  #56
And here we have Lusatians well before that :))) We can play with proto expansion maps all day, including early slavic settlements in and around modern day Berlin the hard fact is that we built 90% of cities there, the first chronicles in the region are written in latin by our people, the first stone buildings are chapels built by Poles, the first roads, harbors, villages etc etc, thats hard archeological evidence

Nope, the Germanics were there before you! Before us there were only some Celts (poor sods).
You asked...:)

I guess we won't have to worry about the next invasion. :)

What invasion??? We just come over....:)
(So do you!)
There are no borders anymore. In the future the regional belonging will count much more in another generation or two.
1jola  14 | 1875  
30 Jun 2009 /  #57
I was in Olsztyn a couple weeks ago and it was full of German tourists. They are doing recon, I bet. :)

I was reading about the Buneswehr in Afganistan recently and they are limited by parliament to only responding when attacked by the Taliban. Nothing like waiting to be attacked. Politicians know best what goes on in the field.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11820  
30 Jun 2009 /  #58
They are doing recon, I bet. :)

In shorts and with white socks trying to blend in with the natives I bet!!!
1jola  14 | 1875  
30 Jun 2009 /  #59
Ain't gonna cut it. The natives have black socks. Very chic.
Sokrates  8 | 3335  
30 Jun 2009 /  #60
Nope, the Germanics were there before you!

Really? Then what great cities have you built there? Poznań, Gdańsk, Szczecin all the major urban centres in the region have been built by Poles unless of course we include farming communities by the Germanic tribes as a claim virtually all civilized infrastructure we established?

The amusing bit about German premonitions about civilization is that we ddint kick out German tribes, we didnt take over the existing settlements, the places we mention are scratch built by Poles, we literally brought civilization and urbanisation to all lands we inhabit and you claim as yours (with the exlusion of Wrocław, that was the Czech domain).

The "German cities" you mention are all built by Poles and for the majority of their existence inhabited by Poles, but yeah i agree before we came and built cities, castles, roads and churches there were Germanic hunters-gatherers and some villages there, question is that does justify said eastern expansion if everything of note was built by us Poles.

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