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A job at a real estate agent vacancy in Wroclaw


PolishGirlThief 3 | 11
16 Mar 2019  #1
I recently moved in the Poland with my family and I'm looking to continue working as a real estate agent in Poland since I have many years working as an agent. I found a vacancy for an agent in the city of Krakow of which they want someone who speaks English but my wife doesn't want to live in Krakow because she said it's dangerous especially for a black man. I don't speak Polish yet so I have limited options of job opportunities. If anyone can recommend real estate companies in Wroclaw that has vacancies or where I can summit a CV and wait until a vacancy comes up, pls let me know.
OP PolishGirlThief 3 | 11
16 Mar 2019  #2
So I just read a topic about read estate agents on here from 2014 that's states agents do not need a license to work which is a relief to me (gives me some hope) because I would rather work on my own as I worked on my own while in my country

Also I read a lot of dissatisfaction about people saying how unreliable agents are which is the same where I am coming from but I beg to be different. Most of the clients I get are recommended from clients I have worked with as far back as six years ago. I have rented out five houses in my country to clients since I came to Poland three weeks ago. I'm eager to get to business so if there are any trustworthy agents on here who know landlords directly, I would appreciate if they can hit me up and we can run things.
lul bul - | 48
16 Mar 2019  #3
You want to do residential or commercial?sales or rentals?Sales is more money less hassel so is commercial.BTW which country are you from?
OP PolishGirlThief 3 | 11
17 Mar 2019  #4
My first brief when I first started was sales but I closed more deals in rentals so I don't mind doing both. I'm open to both Commercial and residential as well. Sales is more money I know that but rental is more frequent. I am from Nigeria.
lul bul - | 48
17 Mar 2019  #5
more deals

that dont mean more money.Whats you goal money or more work with less money.My motive has always been less work and more money.

For a rental you might make a months rent minus 50% agency fee while in commercial you might sell less but a deal can fetch you more with equal amount of work and not to mention not dealing with rogue(suitcase clients I call them) clients then financially stable responsible people.

You will need contacts though anyway with a Notariousz,lenders etc though.You can cater to english speaking or elite Polish clientele though with right strategy.
OP PolishGirlThief 3 | 11
17 Mar 2019  #6
My goal is to make more money obviously and thanks for giving me tips how it works here.

In Nigeria rent is paid yearly and commission depends on the amount of the rent. Is the rent is less than 500,000 Naira per year then the agent's commission is 50,000 naira ( 1 zl = 100naira). If the rent is above 500,000 naira then the agent's fee is 10% and if the rent is above 5,000,000 naira, the agent's fee is usually negotiable to 5% at the agent's discretion.

When it comes to sales, the agents charge 5% but this fee is also negotiable at the agent's discretion. I always give a discount to clients on the commission just to encourage them to patronize me. This trick works almost all the time because almost all agents are not willing to negotiate the commission so when they see an agent will to reduce the commission they "fall in love" with the agent.

Also most times agents have to network to market houses faster. For instance, I know the client and you know the landlord, we come together and share the commission 50 50. I know an agent who knows the client and you know the landlord then you take 50% of the commission and me and the other agent share 50%. Sometimes there are 6 agents involved but the agent who knows the landlord usually referred to as "the mandate or direct agent" still takes 50% of the commission and the other 5 agents have to share the other 50%. Is that how it works in Poland?

What's in for the Notariousz and lenders if they give contacts of potential clients to agents? Is they a charge or do they get a percentage of the agent's commission when a deal is sealed?

Sorry for the long post.
lul bul - | 48
17 Mar 2019  #7
What's in for the Notariousz and lenders

You might get a small percentage for bringing clients to them and they usually adjust to your/clients schedule also.In Poland residential rentals are usually for foreigners who use agents and overpriced usually.Locals mostly never use agents or try to beat you for comission.Commercial buyers usually pay 1% unless the property is hot then 2.5%.In Wroclaw there are lots of foreigners too so lack of Polish should not hinder you.

I am not an agent but deal with them on regular basis soknow little tricks.
OP PolishGirlThief 3 | 11
18 Mar 2019  #8
I don't really want to play the part where I have to give these people my clients for a small percentage. I was on the top of the food chain where I'm coming from and people bring clients to me. I would rather create a relationship with landlords or work with agents who know landlords directly.

Commercial briefs seem more of what I'm used to and the 2.5% is very fair, actually 1% is fair too if the property is very expensive.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,355
18 Mar 2019  #9
You seriously expect to be a successful real estate agent in Poland as a black man with no knowledge of the local market let alone doesn't speak polish??? LOL!
Lyzko 20 | 6,334
18 Mar 2019  #10
He might well succeed nowadays on what is known as "the novelty angle"!

If Poland can have a John Godson serving in her parliament, then I think she's long since ready for a black realtor.
'Course Godson spoke Polish, but I'm certain the above poster will learn Polish too if he's serious about that which he claims:-)
lul bul - | 48
18 Mar 2019  #11
. I would rather create a relationship with landlords or work with agents who know landlords directly.

Only 10% chance that you will ever will until you have an unexperienced foreigner.Do you really think landlords will trust you with there vacant property to rent it??WAKE UP!

Seriously dude,You think someone in Poland gives a flying fug who were you and where you came from doing what?

Poland as a black man with no knowledge

Dirk he can with the elite but with normal people he will fail badly esp in renting area.KNowledge part comes with experience so I can bet he should save enough to live for 1 year at least learning and gathering information.We know a guy here who has failed badly in his business venture of helping foreigners in there work including real estate.
cms neuf - | 860
18 Mar 2019  #12
Buying or leasing a piece of real estate is a big and expensive decision and people will go for experience and competence rather than novelty.

I think it will be very hard to make a living doing this. While there are some successful foreign agents in Poland they generally either come from a Polish background, or they were sent here by one of the big agencies and thus have the contacts with landlords, developers, capital providers etc.

Try and keep some angle on your existing Nigerian business, see if you can do it remotely, and think of a Plan B for if this does not work out. Without Polish language it will be extremely difficult outside Warsaw - for instance why would I want it take an agent to the notary or bank if he did not speak Polish ?
lul bul - | 48
18 Mar 2019  #14
@cms,I agree with you,He should consider opening an Nigerian restaurant instead.Use to be one Anderska in Warsaw but has been shut down.Anyway most foreigners are more successful doing that until they are professionals in there field.

And to make contacts he has to be bilingual or open a real estate office and hire agents which takes a lot of time(in years).
delphiandomine 83 | 17,596
18 Mar 2019  #15
Buying or leasing a piece of real estate is a big and expensive decision and people will go for experience.

However, on personal experience recently, Polish real estate agents simply don't know how to sell. No-one follows up, or bothers to put any effort in, and that's on a property significantly bigger than some shoebox in a communist block in Warsaw next to a strip club.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,355
18 Mar 2019  #16
Nigerian restaurant instead.

Yeah I'm sure there's a huge market for ebola infested bush meat in Poland...

There's a reason why it shut down...
OP PolishGirlThief 3 | 11
18 Mar 2019  #17
Lol funny lot on here. I don't mean to brag but I can afford not to work in Poland and still get paid on a regular from all the properties I manage in Nigeria. Just because some Polish people have a mindset doesn't mean every Polish person has thsame mindset. Lul bul already told me what A few things a I needed to understand.

No pun intended but you guys have little or no experience about real estate. A man with available funds can do anything when it comes to real estate. If/When I have a client interested in a property, I can buy the property in my wife's name or my brother in-laws name then resell the property to the client at a possibly higher price and still collect commission. The client doesn't need to know I own the property.This will only happen when the landlord or agent doesn't want to work with a black skinned man like myself.

Thanks a lot for the offer delphiandomine but I would rather discuss in the public chat, if the offer is good enough, then we arrange a meeting in public chat and meet up at a public place.
lul bul - | 48
18 Mar 2019  #18
Bud,flipping properties in Poland is usually not a good idea as you have to pay very high tax(I forgot how much like 19 to 23%) if you sell before 5 years until you reinvest in 1 or 2 years (I forget too,there is a loophole in that too with calendar years).

Also beware of taking advice from every tom dik & harry here.Ask for there business/practical experiences and not google expertise.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,355
19 Mar 2019  #19
I don't mean to brag but I can afford not to work in Poland and still get paid on a regular from all the properties I manage in Nigeria.

Great. I can do the same while scratching my nuts all day long. Big deal. You should get into shipping SUVs to W. Africa. That's where the money's at over there. Not managing mud hut tenants.

This will only happen when the landlord or agent doesn't want to work with a black skinned man like myself.

The issue isn't even that your black, although a lot of Polish people will be put off by that, but that combined with the fact that you simply don't know the market nor speak Polish. There is no reason for someone to go with a person who is foreign, doesn't know the market, doesn't speak Polish over someone who is a native/dual citizen, knows the market, and speaks Polish. And there's only so many W. Africans that actually want to live in Poland. Tourists somewhat, students a few, residents/citizens almost none.

I can buy the property in my wife's name or my brother in-laws name then resell the property to the client at a possibly higher price and still collect commission.

Very smart. Until you realize that strategy will always put you backwards due to the taxes that the buyer pays.

Oh and forget about buying any kind of land zoned agricultural.

@lul bul
It's 19% if sold before 5 years. If you add up all the taxes it's damn near 30%.

Also, depending on the situation with Brexit (assuming OP is a citizen of UK), OP may need to now get a special permit from government to buy property.
lul bul - | 48
19 Mar 2019  #20
lol dirk thx bro for updating me while drinking sutter home(CHILLED) white zinfendel.i will text you jutro!:)
OP PolishGirlThief 3 | 11
19 Mar 2019  #21
Lol a good businessman knows about taxes and always pays it. I also know you guys are trolls but let's have some fun. Firstly I have no interest in shipping SUVs or any sort of cars. From the sound of you guys, when I started doing real estate business, you lads were probably playing video games, soccer, chasing girls or drinking with the "boys".

Now take a minute and google apartments for rent in Eko Atlantic, Banana Island or Ikoyi. These are cities in "Nigeria". You haven't got a clue so how big real estate is where I'm coming from. The annual rental prices of apartments there will pay for some houses for sale in Wroclaw or even Warsaw. No jokes. The only reason I moved to Poland is because my wife wants to be close to her family. A wise man never argues with his wife.

Lul bul, you started off as a reasonable human, don't be a troll, it doesn't make your wallet heavier.
lul bul - | 48
19 Mar 2019  #22
Sorry man if I offended you in any way,I didnt mean to at all.I was just telling you with my experience as a non Polish person visiting Poland for the last 19 years every month.There are some crazy laws in Poland and as a foreigner one will not get them and learn by paying a price financially.

Real estate is big almost in every developed or developing country,I live by the shore area where summer rental houses can be over 50k USD a month also,even in Poland there are tiny shiet hole flats that they ask 45k Pln a sq m to buy and rents went down in around 2008/9/10 but are now coming back up.As a foreign realtor esp with no knowledge of Polish it will be very hard for you personally until you open an office and hire Polish speaking agents(in fact there are plenty I know in Warsaw from Ukraine,Armenia,Russia etc).I can never imagine a non English speaking or even English speaking Pole will ever trust a foreigner to rent his flat for a comission.Good luck any way in your venture.


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