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BEWARE of K&S Krakowska Szkoła Języków Obcych!!


Frank123
3 Mar 2012 #1
Do not work for this company unless you want to gain unpaid experience. Most teachers have not been paid for a few months and there is little chance of being paid in the near future.

This school also goes by the names:

K&S Krakowska Szkoła Języków Obcych
K&S Europejska sieć szkół języków obcych
K&S Trójmiejska szkoła języków obcych
catsoldier 62 | 596
3 Mar 2012 #2
Why aren't the teachers being paid?
warszawa-angole
3 Mar 2012 #3
provide evidence or you're just rival school afraid of competition
pip 10 | 1,661
3 Mar 2012 #4
this is my thought too. My daughter's preschool had this type of thing happen to them- a neighbouring preschool hit the forums and slammed the preschool- it is quite silly and pathetic this technique.
pawian 163 | 10,419
3 Mar 2012 #5
this is my thought too.

It is probably wrong. Other local Krakow forums are full of complaints, too.
OP Frank123
4 Mar 2012 #6
Provide evidence? So, you want me to provide bank statements of the teachers who haven't received income for the last three months?

This is not a smear campaign. This was intended to be a warning for native speakers and Polish teachers who are considering working there. This was not intended for some mother of a preschool child who has limited knowledge of the language school industry.

By all means work there, but please consider not only this post, but other posts on other websites in Polish.
LwowskaKrakow 28 | 431
4 Mar 2012 #7
It is illegal not to pay employees ( does not apply to self employed) sharp every month in Poland and you should go to a Work inspector to file a complaint or get a lawyer.
OP Frank123
4 Mar 2012 #8
I believe that this is what the teachers are in the process of doing.

Please, think twice before working there.
warszawa-angole
4 Mar 2012 #9
Then tell some of the unpaid teachers to post here, until then, all you are doing is making statement and although this may be true, you may still be lying. Not everything on TripAdvisor is true, so why should we believe one random on internet forum?
Wroclaw Boy
4 Mar 2012 #10
It is illegal not to pay employees

No shite, i know of somewbody working for a large reputable Cement production related company in Warsaw who has not been paid since November, they promised wages just before christmas which never came and kept on saying next week, next week till the union moved in a few weeks ago and closed them down.

Happens all the time.
JonnyM 11 | 2,621
4 Mar 2012 #11
Happens all the time.

The nurses in Lodz who weren't paid for months are a good an example as any. However they were in a very different situation to EFL teachers.

What puzzles me about this thread is that if it's true, why is anyone still working there?
LwowskaKrakow 28 | 431
4 Mar 2012 #12
they promised wages just before christmas which never came

The Poles are far too accepting. I would have turned down the place to get my salary. If they closed down it means they went bust?

in anycase, no one should wait more than 15 days of delay in payment of one 's salary and should not show up at work and look for another job right away.

How can people pay their mortgages and all their personal bills if they are not paid on the spot. Crazy.
wroclaw teacher
7 Mar 2012 #13
I worked in Wroclaw, I wrote millions of mails, was promissed money millions of times and still nothing. All bad things you'll find on the net about this school are true, unfortunatelly. The worst thing is that me and my collegues were trying really hard and were working our heads off and all to be treated like this. I've worked in many language schools in Wroclaw, but this one is by far THE WORST.
Jammie Dodger
12 Mar 2012 #14
I worked for the same school in Gdansk.

The guy running this school is a FRAUD. He cheated over 20 teachers here - never paid our wages.

If you don't want to believe it, then don't. We're just trying to warn people.

BEWARE OF THE SCAM!
JonnyM 11 | 2,621
12 Mar 2012 #15
mails

promissed

All bad things

unfortunatelly

hmmm

I've worked in many language schools in Wroclaw

Something doesn't quite ring true about this whole thread.
wroclaw teacher
12 Mar 2012 #16
What's your point?
JonnyM 11 | 2,621
12 Mar 2012 #17
Everything about this thread, from the proliferation of guest posters through the semi-literate post from and alleged English Teacher and right through to the sheer implausibility of people claiming staff at a language school weren't paid for months (but stayed there) suggest all is not as it seems.
OP Frank123
14 Mar 2012 #18
How about doing a google search of "K&S Krakowska Szkoła Języków Obcych opinie"? Then you might find other forums with comments from Polish teachers also.

through the semi-literate post from and alleged English Teacher

Check yourself before you wreck yourself!
JonnyM 11 | 2,621
14 Mar 2012 #19
Check yourself before you wreck yourself!

A swype typo is different - and yes, this thread is still dodgy.

Then you might find other forums with comments from Polish teachers also.

Something tells me the alleged native speakers on here are Polish enough.
welshguyinpola 23 | 463
14 Mar 2012 #20
This school is currently on Groupon offering courses for 200zl a semester. No wonder they cant afford to pay their teachers
OP Frank123
15 Mar 2012 #21
A swype typo is different

:(

Something tells me the alleged native speakers on here are Polish enough.

Little Jonny detective. Something tells me you have too much time on your hands considering the number of posts you have written in the last year. Maybe you should do some volunteer work at that school?
JonnyM 11 | 2,621
15 Mar 2012 #22
Something tells me you have too much time on your hands

Or plenty of time sitting by a computer watching people work, waiting in airport lounges, overcoming writer's block etc ;-)

And I still think this thread is as fishy as an old pair of tights.
jasondmzk
15 Mar 2012 #23
Check yourself before you wreck yourself!

Haha! You wrote that.

Maybe you should do some volunteer work at that school?

ooh! ooh! Do me, next! Give ME advice!
JonnyM 11 | 2,621
15 Mar 2012 #24
Besides which, a native speaker would not only know where on the internet to post information about a potentially rogue school, but also wouldn't even think of working somewhere where they:

have not been paid for a few months and there is little chance of being paid in the near future.

OP Frank123
15 Mar 2012 #25
writer's block etc ;-)

happens quite often?

Anyway, you can express how much more superior, intelligent, and whitty than you are than the rest of us, but this is not for you. Not for those who wish to judge, doubt and ridicule. This is for those for who either have come to Poland for an enjoyable working experience, or for those who are already in Poland looking for extra teaching work or to gain employment. All the best in Poland and good luck!
jon357 63 | 14,280
19 Mar 2012 #26
happens quite often?

No it doesn't.

This is for those for who either have come to Poland for an enjoyable working experience, or for those who are already in Poland looking for extra teaching work or to gain employment. All the best in Poland and good luck!

And a few enquiries have shown that there's similar stuff about this in various places on the internet, but none of them where one would normally post about a rogue school, and none of them written by a native speaker of English.
teacher at k&S
21 Mar 2012 #27
Have worked for this school, and after a long fight I got paid. However, I would not recommend anyone
to work here. The school has not lived up to its promises and even if I got my money then I am one of the lucky

people.

krakow.gazeta.pl/krakow/1,44425,11381171,Szkola_jezykow_zbankrutowala_ _Zamkniete_do_odwolania_.html

Up until a few days ago I was thinking of going back to teach there as they could not find a replacement for me.

Does not look like I need to worry now:)
jon357 63 | 14,280
21 Mar 2012 #28
Another guest poster whose English isn't quite good enough to pretend to be a native speaker.

This whole thread is fishy and probably comes from one of their rivals.
OP Frank123
21 Mar 2012 #29
Another guest poster whose English isn't quite good enough to pretend to be a native speaker.

Firstly, where in that previous post was it mentioned that he/she was a native speaker? Secondly, what makes you the "editor in chief" of this forum? Get a God damn life!

This whole thread is fishy and probably comes from one of their rivals.

How about you take your head out of your backside and read the articles on 'Gazeta Krakowa'? Or are those articles too 'fishy' for you?

Also, JohnnyM, why did you change your nick to 'jon357' only a few days ago? I smell...John West - Tuna Steak.
terri 1 | 1,660
21 Mar 2012 #30
krakow.gazeta.pl/krakow/1,35798,11391985,Poszkodowani_przez_szkole_zglaszaja_sie_na_policje.html

For those who can read Polish, please read the above article. For others: K & S is no longer a viable business. The owner cannot be contacted. The premises are empty and people are going to the police to bring a joint action against the school.


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