Do you speak English? Have you lived in America? New LOVE/HATE list.........

nice, grubas.......nice.

Reasons I love America:
Bill O'Reilly
Lou Dobbs
Mark Levin
Sean Hannity
Michael Savage
Michelle Malkin
Charles Krauthammer
Glenn Beck
Dick Morris

Reasons I hate America:
Barack Osama
Nancy Pelosi
Harry Reed
Charles Rangle
Keith Olbermann
Chris Matthews
MSNBC

And every other seditious left-wing wacko lib who is doing their best to bring this country down.

BTW, My Polish wife agrees 100% and can't believe she ran away from communism only to see it rear it's ugly head over here.

ronwest wrote:


true, true, true. surely life in communist Poland was a dreamland compared to today's life in the USA.

hey ronnie, Reality just called, he said you guys can meet up whenever you're ready.

Right wing nutjobs like you are why America has fallen so much into disrepair as a country.

What you conveniently forget is that Republican presidents have borrowed massively to fund military expansion and Democrats are the ones who reduce the deficit. Bush set up TARP, lets not forget as well as being responsible for the economic bubble that caused it.

You talk about 'social healthcare' being Obama's socialism, yet the US is already paying 16% of its GDP for healthcare and how more communistic can you get than that?

And remember the Project for a New American Century? Neocons plan to continue the American Empire took less than a decade to end America's sole super power status. Well done.


Been there a dozen times, worked there and work with American's every day as customers and employee's. I've also been to 30 other countries and the US is definitely in the bottom three worst places to visit or live. Taiwan is the worst, followed by Dubai then has to come the US - the place is revolting.

US is not for just anybody...

Reasons I HATE America:
Bill O'Reilly
Lou Dobbs
Mark Levin
Sean Hannity
Michael Savage
Michelle Malkin
Charles Krauthammer
Glenn Beck
Dick Morris

Reasons I tolerate America:
Barack Obama
Nancy Pelosi
Harry Reed
Charles Rangle
Keith Olbermann
Chris Matthews
MSNBC

And every other seditious neocon-wing wacko lib who is doing their best to bring this country down.

BTW, My American wife agrees 100% and can't believe that so many stupid people vote for republicans and corporate democrats
but that what you get for having " no chilled left behind programs " lowering standards does not work unless you doing it on purpose to create stupid population.

What's a corporate democrat?

Lol, right the Grand Canyon, Great Lakes, Rocky Mountains, Key Largo.. scores of other places are all beyond belief disgusting.

all but Dennis Kucinich

Priceless :) LMAO Love it. well said.

America is much more than UNITED STATES.

I was born and raised in the states and can give a little bit of my perspective. I did not read all the posts, for I am short on time this evening and have much to write already. I did see some things about gun violence along with a few other issues. Here is my take on some of the issues I did read over:

Gun ownership: Gun ownership and the abundance of firearms in the US cannot be solely to blame for the deaths that occur here. We are far and away the highest country in gun ownership per capita: 90:100 ratio, which does not take into account multiple guns owned by a single collector. By all the studies I have seen, America is pretty far down the chain on murders per capita - anywhere from 20-54 from the sites I have visited. Mexico, to the south, is far higher in murder per capita on every list I have seen.

Gun ownership can actually deter violent crimes, which I know sounds somewhat ridiculous, but please bare with me. Criminals will find a way to acquire firearms, no matter the nation's laws. Without the right of a citizen to protect himself with firearm, the criminals can have free reign to do whatever they like. Violent crimes are usually perpetrated most in countries with substandard living conditions where the government overtly oppresses its people into economic poverty. I would argue that the American government oppresses its people in very subtle ways, but it is no comparison to most third world countries. The view that America is overly violent is created by our media, due to a near total freedom of press. I don't agree with the wars we have waged after WWII. I don't like how we turned a blind eye to Stalin and the Soviet Union's aggression in Europe after WWII, for a long while, but as a whole we are fairly civilized.

Ignorance and the glamorization of stupidity: I agree that this is abundant here in the states, but you also have to see it from a socio-geographic standpoint. We are isolated from many of the industrialized nations of the world, we are not located in Europe, and we rebelled against the pre-eminent European power in the world, at that time. A surprising number of the people living here still see Europe as a system of monarchies, or communists nations, that hate the United States. Ignorance is certainly not discouraged by our government, though I wouldn't say it is necessarily promoted either. Our media rarely focuses on foreign events. I dare to say that 9 out of 10 people here have no idea who the president of Mexico is, or who the Prime Minister of Canada is; let alone, who rules Russian, Germany, and even Great Britain. We are not raised to be globalists, we are raised to be 'Americans'. That we call ourselves Americans should say enough about our view of countries outside the states. When you replace globalist ideas with American ideas what is then left; a 'me against the world' attitude and a capitalist/consumerist/materialist bent? Perhaps, perhaps I am simply pessimistic.

The United States is a paradox; both tolerant and intolerant, both great and terrible, both free and oppressed in thought, etc. The United States is difficult to understand from a native standpoint, I would be very wary of trying to evaluate it from a foreign standpoint, or being entirely certain in that evaluation. Again, this is just my opinion.

It’s like trying to explain how water tastes...Stick around you'll find out.

zeeamerican wrote:


and even more difficult to explain.

Love the 24 hour convenience stores in the US. It is really a nice thing to grab a six pack, cigarettes, bread, milk or whatever anytime day or night. But when it comes to food and Holidays especially Christmas nothing beats the spirit of togetherness in Poland.

no, he definitely wasn't that.


the stupid repos are the ones bringing the country down.. bush and co. are the ones who came up with no child left behind and then didn;t fund it.. dude.. look into some of this stuff and don't be spoon fed by the dudes on your first list.. this is what makes me sad about america.. sheep like you..


how many shooting are there per capita in PL? how about Australia? how abut Canada? hmm.. blows holes in your theory

He was a hell of a lot better leader than this Obaminated guy


Yeah they did. Kids have free immunizations.


It's not the gun that kills, but the person behind it. In those mentioned countries how many were killed by other means? If they had guns they would protect themselves from being killed.

plk 123 wrote:


the crocodiles pick up the slack.

We have guns in the US to protect ourselves from the government, and to protect ourselves from other citizens when the government fails to provide adequate protection for our lives and property.

convex wrote:


it's the answer any sensible American would give......but it simply won't fly on PF.

Now you are dissapointing me my man.Do you really think that in case of troubles a bunch of poorly armed citizens will have any chance against US army?I don't think so.Any rebelion would be quickly and easily quelled.

The Iraqis were neither well trained, nor did they have good equipment. An armed populace causes those who are in power to think twice if there is serious opposition to something.

convex wrote:


my thoughts exactly. the hillbillies in alabama alone would give them a good run for their money.

Or the skinnies for that matter...Somalia is still devoid of a US presence...

Why has the US Army had such problems in the past then? Why did the Red Army do so badly in Afghanistan? Why did the British Army have serious issues with the IRA, even though the membership of the IRA was pathetically small?

Anyway, in terms of guns - surely it goes right back to the founding of America? It's her culture, after all. What works for America works for America, and it's none of my business to interfere.

just figured it was about time to bump this thread up again. after all, so many of you lately appear to be such experts on the USA, there surely must be plenty more that meet my "criteria" to post on here and share their thoughts.....

I am an American and regarding the South I am fond of the Southern Rock of Lynyrd Skynard, and the gentility of Southern manners, but I am not fond of Southern Baptists that deny the validity of the Theory of Evolution.

just for you fuzz

Way Down South in Dixie
(Break the heart of me)
They hung my black young lover
To a cross roads tree.

Way Down South in Dixie
(Bruised body high in air)
I asked the white Lord Jesus
What was the use of prayer.

Way Down South in Dixie
(Break the heart of me)
Love is a naked shadow
On a gnarled and naked tree.

;) Some of 'em don't so much deny it as disprove it. Sis, you lookin' real cute in them jeans...